Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Watandar]

Trump could well defy APAC and much of MAGA would not only back him, but also celebrate.

In practical terms, US can turn off the Israeli Air Force within days.. The F-35s being a particular weak point

He can, but the GOP won't. They remember what AIPAC did to the last president who pressured Israel, George HW Bush, back in 1992. The recent changes in American politics and sentiment against AIPAC are good, but we are a long long way from America escaping its clutches.

 

[Professor Jiang]

Yes Mario is garbage, even Elon Musk unfollowed him recently due to misinformation and unreliable

I am not sure about Pepe Escober and Larry Johnson, don't believe anything they said. Just theory

Nonsense:

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Please avoid them at all. Don't want to give them high views and fake news.

Pepe Escobar once implied he had evidence that Hassan Nasrallah faked his death. Not to be taken seriously.

 

[tsunset]

This war have proved that Iran can put offensive, but it lack defensive. Now there are two sides to defensive forces.

1. Land based.
2. Air based.

I think it is right time for iran to start investing in air based defensive weapons. I am talking about airforce. A modern air force provides:
1. Air defense interception
2. Combat air patrols
3. Escort for strike aircraft
4. Suppression of enemy aircraft
5. Better battlefield awareness through airborne sensors

Pakistan can help in that regard by gifting some 8-10 older JF-17s to iran to train their pilots and get them ready for newer JF-17 Block 3. It wont cost much, but it will give you the capability to go behind israeli fighter jets or atleast put some resistance to them in the air.
Even if they cannot defeat Israeli F-35s consistently, they could Intercept drones, Engage cruise missiles, Challenge support aircraft, Force enemy strike packages to be more cautious

The resumé of the war was simple on the Iranian side

0% Defense
100% Attack

Full berserk mode

And it still worked surprisingly

Everything needs to be reworked and rebuilt besides offensive capabilities

 

[Muji.Iqbal]

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Iran war live: Tehran says deal to end war a ‘declaration of US defeat’​

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• Iran’s parliamentary speaker Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf says deal to end the war with US was not the result of pressure and coercion.
• Israel’s army says it attacked Hezbollah fighters in southern Lebanon.
• Israel’s defence minister Israel Katz says military will not withdraw from Lebanon, even if US demands it.
• US Secretary of State Marco Rubio says Iran will not be able to charge tolls in the Strait of Hormuz when a final deal is agreed on.

Iran says deal to end war a ‘declaration of US defeat’

Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf says agreement was not the result of pressure and coercion.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[Fatman17]

Live updatesLive updates,

Iran war live: Tehran says deal to end war a ‘declaration of US defeat’​

01:06
UN begins evacuation of 11,000 sailors stranded in Strait of Hormuz


By Usaid Siddiqui and Jillian Kestler-D'Amours
Published On 24 Jun 202624 Jun 2026
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• Iran’s parliamentary speaker Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf says deal to end the war with US was not the result of pressure and coercion.
• Israel’s army says it attacked Hezbollah fighters in southern Lebanon.
• Israel’s defence minister Israel Katz says military will not withdraw from Lebanon, even if US demands it.
• US Secretary of State Marco Rubio says Iran will not be able to charge tolls in the Strait of Hormuz when a final deal is agreed on.

Iran says deal to end war a ‘declaration of US defeat’

Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf says agreement was not the result of pressure and coercion.

www.aljazeera.com

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[Meengla]

Trump has probably seen the Zionists duplicity. One would hope his administration gets this deal over the line.
The Israelis will continue attacking Lebanon in the hope Iran loses patience. The deal if it happens despite Israelis invading Southern Lebanon will be a bitter pill to swallow.

There is already a 'deconfliction' cell being setup minus Israel for Lebanon as part of the recent Switzerland discussions; Pakistan is part of that.
Hard to say what's coming up but maybe Israel pulls out of Southern Lebanon and then the Lebanese Army (plus some other countries?) deployed and guarantees there would not be attacks on northern Israel and no Israeli invasion of Lebanon again.

 

[maverick]

This war have proved that Iran can put offensive, but it lack defensive. Now there are two sides to defensive forces.

1. Land based.
2. Air based.

I think it is right time for iran to start investing in air based defensive weapons. I am talking about airforce. A modern air force provides:
1. Air defense interception
2. Combat air patrols
3. Escort for strike aircraft
4. Suppression of enemy aircraft
5. Better battlefield awareness through airborne sensors

Pakistan can help in that regard by gifting some 8-10 older JF-17s to iran to train their pilots and get them ready for newer JF-17 Block 3. It wont cost much, but it will give you the capability to go behind israeli fighter jets or atleast put some resistance to them in the air.
Even if they cannot defeat Israeli F-35s consistently, they could Intercept drones, Engage cruise missiles, Challenge support aircraft, Force enemy strike packages to be more cautious

if Iran is able to get AWACS from China and integrate JF17, a fleet of 40 aircrafts will be a formidable force.. i think they already have tankers ?

 

[HAIDER]

if Iran is able to get AWACS from China and integrate JF17, a fleet of 40 aircrafts will be a formidable force.. i think they already have tankers ?

may be , but Hajizadeh was modern warfare genius of this era. A man with amazing idea , which no one able to defeat his war doctrine. Basically Iran don t need a whole fleet of fighter jets, there concept is brilliant, missile, drones, satellites. No need of generations of plane and keep updating with expensive gadgets.
US feel the heat when Iranian hit Jordan base with multiple strikes.

 

[maverick]

may be , but Hajizadeh was modern warfare genius of this era. A man with amazing idea , which no one able to defeat his war doctrine. Basically Iran don t need a whole fleet of fighter jets, there concept is brilliant, missile, drones, satellites. No need of generations of plane and keep updating with expensive gadgets.
US feel the heat when Iranian hit Jordan base with multiple strikes.

any verified source how many losses are jordanian airfield with the last massive missile strikes?

 

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usa is going back so new security system is needed.except uae all are accepting that

 

[Watandar]

may be , but Hajizadeh was modern warfare genius of this era. A man with amazing idea , which no one able to defeat his war doctrine. Basically Iran don t need a whole fleet of fighter jets, there concept is brilliant, missile, drones, satellites. No need of generations of plane and keep updating with expensive gadgets.
US feel the heat when Iranian hit Jordan base with multiple strikes.

He came up with that doctrine because Iran could not build an air force, due to sanctions or an unwillingness to sell to Iran. There is no substitute for an actual air force.

The Israelis/US would not have been able to fire so many standoff weapons over western Iraq or fly so many missions over Iran itself if the Iranians had a good air force. The damage Iran could have inflicted on US/GCC bases would also have been on a larger scale. Just look at the few raids the IRIAF did carry out like at Camp Beuhring.

 

[PakistanLVR]

 

[vmro]

The resumé of the war was simple on the Iranian side

0% Defense
100% Attack

Full berserk mode

And it still worked surprisingly

Everything needs to be reworked and rebuilt besides offensive capabilities

There's no way to counter USA-IDF air superiority anyway, so Iran didn't waste time and resources for doomed projects, but put their enemies in the, roughly, same position, they can attack but impossible to defend themselves, in very small area, tiny entity itself and much smaller us bases, but with expensive stuff and self proclaimed special people...

This was strategic war of resilience and abilities, advantages Iran poses in enormous territory and population preserved Iranian strategic edge over zionists... BTW, Egypt failed in their attempts, although they are totally comparable with Iran in any meaningful measures...

now Iran put entity in the state of paranoia, now they have to listen Erdogan's endless speeches full concentrated, which is harsh job even for mossad...even the prince of Arabia is boosting to the new reality...

 

[Eşbah]

By the way, those who opposed an Iranian preemptive strike during the US build-up in the region have been proven wrong, too. It was a major strategic mistake not to act during a time when Iran had a tactical advantage.