Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[ShapurII]

They can only print money if someone buys their debt

At the moment that's not happening

And with worsening economic conditions, big holders of u.s debt like Japan are selling because they are desperate for cash

The consequences of all this will be clear in the coming months and years

You buy the US debt when you use technology owned by the US.

Microchips, internet services like cloud and AI technology, iPhones, Airbus or Boeing airplanes, US military weapons, etc. That's just the direct part, besides the fact that a large part of energy is traded in the US dollar, which means you are buying the US debt indirectly as well.

 

[Shags101]

Missiles have been launched now

I swear i was just heading to bed and no worries I know why you aren’t responding to my tag will leave it at that night buddy

 

[FUB]

Yeah, because striking hundreds of targets in 2 days, including civilian bridges, is love tap.

Aren't you guys tired of "handling the war perfectly"?

Please let somebody else handle things with less perfection. We're fed up with your flawless perfect war tactics and strategies.

As another user pointed out, either fight the fight or shut the f*ck up and surrender. 48 years of chanting Death to America and Death to Israel all for this? To become the US punch bug like Syria or Lebanon?

The funny thing is, every time Iranians start to get killed, the Hasbara desk goes full throttle. Your prince, whose family stoles billions of Iran's national wealth, will never set foot in the land of the brave lion hearts. Just like the tables were flipped, It does not matter if the Espstein Clan launche 100,200, or 1000 strikes. SOH will not open .

No matter how many bee brains waive the flag of the geonocidal regime, IRAN and Iranians will come out on top .

As for cowards abroad who are so tone deaf , you are now in the same rank as the MEK. Maybe your prince can use some of the stolen wealth and buy his own Island, and the rest of idiots can go scream PAHLAVI BAR MI GARDE.
LONG LIVE THE BRAVE PEOPLE OF IRAN
**** ISRAEL

 

[Starlord]

We may hear the end of Cease-fire in next 24-48 hours, I will be extremely surprised if it still holds, unless there are some backdoor diplomacy going on behind the doors, But I think at this point even mediators like Pakistan-Qatar must be getting tired of this back and forth.

 

[ShapurII]

The funny thing is, every time Iranians start to get killed, the Hasbara desk goes full throttle. Your prince, whose family stoles billions of Iran's national wealth, will never set foot in the land of the brave lion hearts. Just like the tables were flipped, It does not matter if the Espstein Clan launche 100,200, or 1000 strikes. SOH will not open .

No matter how many bee brains waive the flag of the geonocidal regime, IRAN and Iranians will come out on top .

As for cowards abroad who are so tune deaf , you are now in the same rank as the MEK. Maybe your prince can use some of the stolen wealth and buy his own Island, and the rest of idiots can go scream PAHLAVI BAR MI GARDE.
LONG LIVE THE BRAVE PEOPLE OF IRAN
**** ISRAEL

Yeah, it doesn't matter if the "Epstein clan" launch 100, 200 or 1,000 strikes, the Strait of Hormuz is open right now and the Bab El-Mandeb will never be closed after handing over billions of dollars from the wealth of the Iranian nation to sandal-wearing Houthis of Yemen.

Also, any time the US feels any sort of slight inconvenience, the US will offer another fake ceasefire and you fools will immediately accept it and jump up and down from happiness like monkeys and claim another glorious victory.

Even the Houthis of Yemen have stabbed you in the back after they realized you're full of shit and never intended to fight against the Americans and are unable to build nuclear weapons, which is 1940s technology.

The rest of your post shows how much you're angry for getting humiliated once more. I'll let you stay angry because even tougher times are ahead for fools like you.

 

[ShapurII]

To all the fools who think Trump is out of control, mark my words, watch what he will do after the mid-term elections in November. He isn't crazy or anything, he's doing what he thinks he can and get away with it.

Trump had to be dealt with after he killed Gen. Soleimani if you didn't want to reach this point. Mike Pompeo is even more dangerous than Trump. There are tens of people in the US who are worse than Trump. And they're all loyal to Israel, whether you like it or not. They're not going to leave Iran alone, particularly now that Trump has set a precedent of attacking Iran with minimal American casualties.

I will reiterate my position of the last 2 decades: There's not a single scenario where Iran can defeat the US without obtaining at least a dozen of strategic and tactical nuclear weapons. You can remain in your delusional fantasies, but if you think you can defeat the US by throwing 10-20 missiles per day at Bahrain and Kuwait, you're the dumbest people in the history of Iran.

 

[Garcia Sea]

Iran’s vulnerability has reached its peak. Despite the martyrdom of eight soldiers and the thorough bombardment of civilian ships and ports, it has not mounted any counterattack. It is now clear that the reformists have taken over the country. Otherwise, why would Mojtaba issue a statement opposing the memorandum?

Trump has now secured the right to kill Iranians at will, without paying any price, this is what the negotiations have brought about.

 

[MS Sandhu]

To all the fools who think Trump is out of control, mark my words, watch what he will do after the mid-term elections in November. He isn't crazy or anything, he's doing what he thinks he can and get away with it.

Trump had to be dealt with after he killed Gen. Soleimani if you didn't want to reach this point. Mike Pompeo is even more dangerous than Trump. There are tens of people in the US who are worse than Trump. And they're all loyal to Israel, whether you like it or not. They're not going to leave Iran alone, particularly now that Trump has set a precedent of attacking Iran with minimal American casualties.

I will reiterate my position of the last 2 decades: There's not a single scenario where Iran can defeat the US without obtaining at least a dozen of strategic and tactical nuclear weapons. You can remain in your delusional fantasies, but if you think you can defeat the US by throwing 10-20 missiles per day at Bahrain and Kuwait, you're the dumbest people in the history of Iran.

What way forward do you suggest now?

 

[Eşbah]

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Trump is claiming that NATO could get involved in Iran. If true the current exchange of attacks is the prelude to a bigger and much more extensive war against IRI.

 

[ShotErrorKh]

Drones to the fifth fleet, all interests of the enemy are legitimate targets, crushing response, many options left, new target banks yada yada. Getting boring at this point pack it up and call it a day, the resistance in lebanon hates you for abandoning them for your failed deal andthe houthis are caught up in the south, even if they werent theyd just leave you on seen anyways.

It is beyond me how the Iranians arent on the streets demanding the hanging of the traitors already

 

[Watandar]

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Trump is claiming that NATO could get involved in Iran. If true the current exchange of attacks is the prelude to a bigger and much more extensive war against IRI.

NATO isn't getting involved in Iran. It got involved in Afghanistan only for Trump to screw them over. The Europeans are quietly building up their own capabilities and alternative to NATO.

 

[ShapurII]

What way forward do you suggest now?

Iran needs to play the madman to survive this war like what we did in the first three-four weeks of the war. And Iran needs some form of deterrence to do that. It won't work if whenever the US feels inconvenient, Iran accepts a new premature ceasefire. That's just boiling the frog in my opinion, a slow inevitable death.

The Russians and the Chinese have already made it clear that they're not going to give Iran any sort of deterrence. The Chinese ambassador in Tehran said, just today, that China's policy is not to get involved in global conflicts, meaning that Iran should not count on China for military support. He continued to say China, however, supports the integrity of all countries. Basically, you won't get anything better than public statements or political support from us. Russia is also Zionist to the core, as I have stated it before.

By the way, have these fools that think the current status quo is sustainable thought about who will replace Mojtaba if he is assassinated too? Do these people still think that this time is different and Mojtaba cannot be assassinated? Have they learned nothing from the past? Who will replace him if he is assassinated as well?

So, either Iran will obtain nuclear weapons and continue to play the madman by attacking the world's energy resources and tankers, as well as the USN assets in our firing range, or we should stop the war, throw all Arabs under the bus, normalize our ties with Israel and accept to respect the world's status quo as imposed by the US. We will also be forced to give concessions to the US, which is bad, but it is our own fault for letting things get to this point. There is no other option in reality. Either get the nukes and fight the fight or surrender and act like a normal state.

One more thing, it is obvious that Israel and the US are a package deal. There will be no deal with the US if Iran continues to support anti-Israel resistance movements or call for an end to Israel. Also, these anti-Israel movements haven't been proven very useful when we needed them the most.

 

[Eşbah]

NATO isn't getting involved in Iran. It got involved in Afghanistan only for Trump to screw them over. The Europeans are quietly building up their own capabilities and alternative to NATO.

I wouldn't be so sure about a potential NATO involvement. You're underestimating European submissiveness to America. Bear in mind that Europe's refusal to enter the war in the past was due to the fact that they didn't see a clear benefit. If the equation changes and they see a net profit for Europe, they will not hesitate to attack Iran. I fear they also convinced Erdoğan to remain neutral in exchange for an array of concessions.

 

[ShapurII]

NATO isn't getting involved in Iran. It got involved in Afghanistan only for Trump to screw them over. The Europeans are quietly building up their own capabilities and alternative to NATO.

I don't know whether NATO will eventually get involved or not, but I know one thing for sure: The Europeans aren't doing jackshit to build up their own capabilities or an alternative to NATO.

 

[BigMela2onin]

No response yet? How difficult is it to launch a dozen drones and a few missiles to get intercepted as always? Mojtaba's cursed bloodline and lethal patience back in control?