Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

To all the fools who think Trump is out of control, mark my words, watch what he will do after the mid-term elections in November. He isn't crazy or anything, he's doing what he thinks he can and get away with it.

Trump had to be dealt with after he killed Gen. Soleimani if you didn't want to reach this point. Mike Pompeo is even more dangerous than Trump. There are tens of people in the US who are worse than Trump. And they're all loyal to Israel, whether you like it or not. They're not going to leave Iran alone, particularly now that Trump has set a precedent of attacking Iran with minimal American casualties.

I will reiterate my position of the last 2 decades: There's not a single scenario where Iran can defeat the US without obtaining at least a dozen of strategic and tactical nuclear weapons. You can remain in your delusional fantasies, but if you think you can defeat the US by throwing 10-20 missiles per day at Bahrain and Kuwait, you're the dumbest people in the history of Iran.
 
Iran’s vulnerability has reached its peak. Despite the martyrdom of eight soldiers and the thorough bombardment of civilian ships and ports, it has not mounted any counterattack. It is now clear that the reformists have taken over the country. Otherwise, why would Mojtaba issue a statement opposing the memorandum?

Trump has now secured the right to kill Iranians at will, without paying any price, this is what the negotiations have brought about.
 
ShapurII said:
To all the fools who think Trump is out of control, mark my words, watch what he will do after the mid-term elections in November. He isn't crazy or anything, he's doing what he thinks he can and get away with it.

Trump had to be dealt with after he killed Gen. Soleimani if you didn't want to reach this point. Mike Pompeo is even more dangerous than Trump. There are tens of people in the US who are worse than Trump. And they're all loyal to Israel, whether you like it or not. They're not going to leave Iran alone, particularly now that Trump has set a precedent of attacking Iran with minimal American casualties.

I will reiterate my position of the last 2 decades: There's not a single scenario where Iran can defeat the US without obtaining at least a dozen of strategic and tactical nuclear weapons. You can remain in your delusional fantasies, but if you think you can defeat the US by throwing 10-20 missiles per day at Bahrain and Kuwait, you're the dumbest people in the history of Iran.
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What way forward do you suggest now?
 


Trump is claiming that NATO could get involved in Iran. If true the current exchange of attacks is the prelude to a bigger and much more extensive war against IRI.
 
Drones to the fifth fleet, all interests of the enemy are legitimate targets, crushing response, many options left, new target banks yada yada. Getting boring at this point pack it up and call it a day, the resistance in lebanon hates you for abandoning them for your failed deal andthe houthis are caught up in the south, even if they werent theyd just leave you on seen anyways.

It is beyond me how the Iranians arent on the streets demanding the hanging of the traitors already
 
Eşbah said:


Trump is claiming that NATO could get involved in Iran. If true the current exchange of attacks is the prelude to a bigger and much more extensive war against IRI.
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NATO isn't getting involved in Iran. It got involved in Afghanistan only for Trump to screw them over. The Europeans are quietly building up their own capabilities and alternative to NATO.
 
MS Sandhu said:
What way forward do you suggest now?
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Iran needs to play the madman to survive this war like what we did in the first three-four weeks of the war. And Iran needs some form of deterrence to do that. It won't work if whenever the US feels inconvenient, Iran accepts a new premature ceasefire. That's just boiling the frog in my opinion, a slow inevitable death.

The Russians and the Chinese have already made it clear that they're not going to give Iran any sort of deterrence. The Chinese ambassador in Tehran said, just today, that China's policy is not to get involved in global conflicts, meaning that Iran should not count on China for military support. He continued to say China, however, supports the integrity of all countries. Basically, you won't get anything better than public statements or political support from us. Russia is also Zionist to the core, as I have stated it before.

By the way, have these fools that think the current status quo is sustainable thought about who will replace Mojtaba if he is assassinated too? Do these people still think that this time is different and Mojtaba cannot be assassinated? Have they learned nothing from the past? Who will replace him if he is assassinated as well?

So, either Iran will obtain nuclear weapons and continue to play the madman by attacking the world's energy resources and tankers, as well as the USN assets in our firing range, or we should stop the war, throw all Arabs under the bus, normalize our ties with Israel and accept to respect the world's status quo as imposed by the US. We will also be forced to give concessions to the US, which is bad, but it is our own fault for letting things get to this point. There is no other option in reality. Either get the nukes and fight the fight or surrender and act like a normal state.

One more thing, it is obvious that Israel and the US are a package deal. There will be no deal with the US if Iran continues to support anti-Israel resistance movements or call for an end to Israel. Also, these anti-Israel movements haven't been proven very useful when we needed them the most.
 
Watandar said:
NATO isn't getting involved in Iran. It got involved in Afghanistan only for Trump to screw them over. The Europeans are quietly building up their own capabilities and alternative to NATO.
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I wouldn't be so sure about a potential NATO involvement. You're underestimating European submissiveness to America. Bear in mind that Europe's refusal to enter the war in the past was due to the fact that they didn't see a clear benefit. If the equation changes and they see a net profit for Europe, they will not hesitate to attack Iran. I fear they also convinced Erdoğan to remain neutral in exchange for an array of concessions.
 
Watandar said:
NATO isn't getting involved in Iran. It got involved in Afghanistan only for Trump to screw them over. The Europeans are quietly building up their own capabilities and alternative to NATO.
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I don't know whether NATO will eventually get involved or not, but I know one thing for sure: The Europeans aren't doing jackshit to build up their own capabilities or an alternative to NATO.
 
No response yet? How difficult is it to launch a dozen drones and a few missiles to get intercepted as always? Mojtaba's cursed bloodline and lethal patience back in control?
 
BigMela2onin said:
No response yet? How difficult is it to launch a dozen drones and a few missiles to get intercepted as always? Mojtaba's cursed bloodline and lethal patience back in control?
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Mojtaba is probably in control of Iran as much as we are. His name exists as the Supreme Leader only for symbolism. The same goes for Khamenei to a lesser extent after they had assassinated his circle of friends and trusted persons.
 
The U.S is running low on their Strategic Oil Reserves and the amount of oil that they have been able to get out of the SOH is nowhere near what they need to replenish their SOR. Trump is feeling the heat and is acting out of desperation. Time is not on his side. Every place he is attacking now in the Persian Gulf/Straight of Hormuz/Arabian Sea were all bombed repeatedly during the first 39 days of this war, without any effect to Iran's ability to control the Straight. Any loss of life on Iran's side is criminal and Iran must and is responding to it but Iran knows that this is a War of attrition and that time IS on its side. Iran also knows that if it hurts the U.S or Israel too badly they will resort to Nuclear weapons so it is fighting the war in a limited way not to get nuked. This does not bode well for the impatient and those who do not have faith in Iran and its people so you see here many who think that Iran is on the verge of defeat every time Iran is attacked by the U.S and Iran does not respond with overwhelming force.
 
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shapurzolaktaf said:
Bahrain, Jordan, Kuwait have been attacked. Source: Mario Nawfal.
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Something happened in Kuwait and probably Bahrain read Al Jazeera wording especially for Kuwait sounds like impacts in Bahrain too but the Kuwait one is ominous

In Qatar, the alert told people to stay home, stay away from glass windows and avoid going out until another alert was issued. Soon after, another message was sent saying the danger had passed and that people could, return to their normal lives.

But in Kuwait, the situation was different. The defence ministry reported the interception of some drones and missiles, without giving specific details about the targets or whether any impact had taken place.

People were told to take precautions and informed that any explosions they might hear were the result of those interceptions.

In Bahrain, the interior ministry also sent a similar alert to people, without saying whether there had been any attack coming from Iran.
 
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