Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Persian Gulf]

Terrible performance by Iranian air defences again

 

[RescueRanger]

A least 9 refuelers currently active in the CENTCOM AOR

 

[wangdefa]

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A least 9 refuelers currently active in the CENTCOM AOR

Taking off from Saudi Arabia?

 

[RescueRanger]

Taking off from Saudi Arabia?

Doha, Tel Aviv, Al Udied, bulk of the KC135Rs are flying out of Tel Aviv.

 

[wangdefa]

Iran's focus on taking out an aircraft carrier is the greatest encouragement. Unmanned boats are a good thing.
Bases can be rebuilt, but warships may not be replenished in time.

 

[Shags101]

Doha, Tel Aviv, Al Udied, bulk of the KC135Rs are flying out of Tel Aviv.

I hope the Iranians just send out their welcome mat to the Israelis and just bomb the hell out of gurion with repeated waves they’re going to join soon probably next 24 hours or less if these military planes are flying out of Israel than the Iranians have to go all in first before they do it

 

[EugeneP]

A time may come--and perhaps coming very soon--that all the wishy washiness in Iran goes away and they go for the broke and start an all out war--a regional war--with possibly mobilization of tens of millions of Iranians into Iraq and toward Israel, along with the allies in Iraq, Yemen, and Lebanon.
That's how I see Iran is going to wage the ultimate war for its survival as a sovereign nation. Iran has a large, resilient, and motivated population for a land war.

That is how they waged the war against Iraq (1980-88). Human wave attacks so terrified Saddam Hussein that he started using Mustard gas to fend off the invasion.

 

[Shags101]

Iran's focus on taking out an aircraft carrier is the greatest encouragement. Unmanned boats are a good thing.
Bases can be rebuilt, but warships may not be replenished in time.

Not that easy to take out an aircraft carrier assuming you would need dozens of usv to be able to do the job but first you have to reach said target that doesn’t need to be anywhere near the coast if Iran to operate same with missiles you have to be able to overwhelm those defenses and get close enough for multiple missiles to cause severe damage to the deck you don’t need to destroy the carrier you just need tear up the deck so badly that you take it out of commission…..again that’s if Iran can get those missiles within range and enough waves to do it they haven’t so far

 

[wangdefa]

Not that easy to take out an aircraft carrier assuming you would need dozens of usv to be able to do the job but first you have to reach said target that doesn’t need to be anywhere near the coast if Iran to operate same with missiles you have to be able to overwhelm those defenses and get close enough for multiple missiles to cause severe damage to the deck you don’t need to destroy the carrier you just need tear up the deck so badly that you take it out of commission…..again that’s if Iran can get those missiles within range and enough waves to do it they haven’t so far

Whether it's the deck or the nuclear reactor that shuts down, the effect is the same. Iran possesses supersonic anti-ship missiles, while the U.S. fleet lacks supersonic missile interceptors.The effectiveness of offense outweighs that of defense.

 

[PakistanLVR]

Whether it's the power of the deck or the nuclear reactor, the effect is the same. Iran possesses supersonic anti-ship missiles, while the U.S. fleet lacks supersonic missile interceptors.

Does it though? Not trying to sound smart but if they do, what’s the range of it, and how come they haven’t been used so far? Iranians ingenuity isn’t new. They one of the most intelligent nations on the planet. A true 4th power of the world.

Ps. Giving up control to the SoH for $300bn investments would be a very foolish deal. With the SoH control you influence every other nation on the planet and have them bend their knees to you whereas the $300bn will provide a lever to control the economy of Iran and bring it to heel.

 

[wangdefa]

Does it though? Not trying to sound smart but if they do, what’s the range of it, and how come they haven’t been used so far? Iranians ingenuity isn’t new. They one of the most intelligent nations on the planet. A true 4th power of the world.

Ps. Giving up control to the SoH for $300bn investments would be a very foolish deal. With the SoH control you influence every other nation on the planet and have them bend their knees to you whereas the $300bn will provide a lever to control the economy of Iran and bring it to heel.

At the forum, Iranians told me they possess supersonic anti-ship missiles, and I believe they were not lying. The Houthi rebels in Yemen once successfully attacked an aircraft carrier, and some speculate they used supersonic anti-ship missiles. To be honest, I have never seen Iran use such missiles.

 

[Shags101]

Whether it's the deck or the nuclear reactor that shuts down, the effect is the same. Iran possesses supersonic anti-ship missiles, while the U.S. fleet lacks supersonic missile interceptors.The effectiveness of offense outweighs that of defense.

Yeah Iran possesses anti ship ballistic missiles which in theory could hit it but if that was the case Iran would have done it by now American navy just needs to stay out of range for the most part they don’t even have to defend against an attack trust me my imagination runs wild as well like Iran has in the past launched cruise missiles from underwater canisters why haven’t they attempted to do it during the war or now it’s called Jask

 

[Immortals]

 

[wangdefa]

Yeah Iran possesses anti ship ballistic missiles which in theory could hit it but if that was the case Iran would have done it by now American navy just needs to stay out of range for the most part they don’t even have to defend against an attack trust me my imagination runs wild as well like Iran has in the past launched cruise missiles from underwater canisters why haven’t they attempted to do it during the war or now it’s called Jask

The aircraft carrier is indeed outside Iran's land-based range, but it is still in the Middle East. Iran has been operating in the Middle East for so many years; I don't believe missiles need to be launched from its own territory.
The United States is here to rescue Israel. What is your main objective? Israel can never move around like an aircraft carrier at any time.
In a fight, you need to grab the weakest person and beat them to death. Not someone strong.

 

[Eşbah]

US strikes have not stopped for more than 2 hours, there are massive power outages across large areas of Iran

and still the IRGC (let alone the useless government) has absolutely nothing to say or do.

Striking power station in Ahvaz is inhumane. It is the hottest inhabited city in the world. No electricity during summer means no AC.

These are not just random targets. Every step they take is carefully thought out.