Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Shags101]

Iran's focus on taking out an aircraft carrier is the greatest encouragement. Unmanned boats are a good thing.
Bases can be rebuilt, but warships may not be replenished in time.

Not that easy to take out an aircraft carrier assuming you would need dozens of usv to be able to do the job but first you have to reach said target that doesn’t need to be anywhere near the coast if Iran to operate same with missiles you have to be able to overwhelm those defenses and get close enough for multiple missiles to cause severe damage to the deck you don’t need to destroy the carrier you just need tear up the deck so badly that you take it out of commission…..again that’s if Iran can get those missiles within range and enough waves to do it they haven’t so far

 

[wangdefa]

Not that easy to take out an aircraft carrier assuming you would need dozens of usv to be able to do the job but first you have to reach said target that doesn’t need to be anywhere near the coast if Iran to operate same with missiles you have to be able to overwhelm those defenses and get close enough for multiple missiles to cause severe damage to the deck you don’t need to destroy the carrier you just need tear up the deck so badly that you take it out of commission…..again that’s if Iran can get those missiles within range and enough waves to do it they haven’t so far

Whether it's the deck or the nuclear reactor that shuts down, the effect is the same. Iran possesses supersonic anti-ship missiles, while the U.S. fleet lacks supersonic missile interceptors.The effectiveness of offense outweighs that of defense.

 

[PakistanLVR]

Whether it's the power of the deck or the nuclear reactor, the effect is the same. Iran possesses supersonic anti-ship missiles, while the U.S. fleet lacks supersonic missile interceptors.

Does it though? Not trying to sound smart but if they do, what’s the range of it, and how come they haven’t been used so far? Iranians ingenuity isn’t new. They one of the most intelligent nations on the planet. A true 4th power of the world.

Ps. Giving up control to the SoH for $300bn investments would be a very foolish deal. With the SoH control you influence every other nation on the planet and have them bend their knees to you whereas the $300bn will provide a lever to control the economy of Iran and bring it to heel.

 

[wangdefa]

Does it though? Not trying to sound smart but if they do, what’s the range of it, and how come they haven’t been used so far? Iranians ingenuity isn’t new. They one of the most intelligent nations on the planet. A true 4th power of the world.

Ps. Giving up control to the SoH for $300bn investments would be a very foolish deal. With the SoH control you influence every other nation on the planet and have them bend their knees to you whereas the $300bn will provide a lever to control the economy of Iran and bring it to heel.

At the forum, Iranians told me they possess supersonic anti-ship missiles, and I believe they were not lying. The Houthi rebels in Yemen once successfully attacked an aircraft carrier, and some speculate they used supersonic anti-ship missiles. To be honest, I have never seen Iran use such missiles.

 

[Shags101]

Whether it's the deck or the nuclear reactor that shuts down, the effect is the same. Iran possesses supersonic anti-ship missiles, while the U.S. fleet lacks supersonic missile interceptors.The effectiveness of offense outweighs that of defense.

Yeah Iran possesses anti ship ballistic missiles which in theory could hit it but if that was the case Iran would have done it by now American navy just needs to stay out of range for the most part they don’t even have to defend against an attack trust me my imagination runs wild as well like Iran has in the past launched cruise missiles from underwater canisters why haven’t they attempted to do it during the war or now it’s called Jask

 

[Immortals]

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[wangdefa]

Yeah Iran possesses anti ship ballistic missiles which in theory could hit it but if that was the case Iran would have done it by now American navy just needs to stay out of range for the most part they don’t even have to defend against an attack trust me my imagination runs wild as well like Iran has in the past launched cruise missiles from underwater canisters why haven’t they attempted to do it during the war or now it’s called Jask

The aircraft carrier is indeed outside Iran's land-based range, but it is still in the Middle East. Iran has been operating in the Middle East for so many years; I don't believe missiles need to be launched from its own territory.
The United States is here to rescue Israel. What is your main objective? Israel can never move around like an aircraft carrier at any time.
In a fight, you need to grab the weakest person and beat them to death. Not someone strong.

 

[Eşbah]

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US strikes have not stopped for more than 2 hours, there are massive power outages across large areas of Iran

and still the IRGC (let alone the useless government) has absolutely nothing to say or do.

Striking power station in Ahvaz is inhumane. It is the hottest inhabited city in the world. No electricity during summer means no AC.

These are not just random targets. Every step they take is carefully thought out.

 

[MH.Yang]

With all due respect, many people are far too optimistic about the situation. This war will not end now; a temporary ceasefire cannot halt the underlying dynamics. The war is bound to resume:

1. Iran’s control of the Strait of Hormuz is something the United States cannot accept; accepting it would signify the complete collapse of U.S. hegemony in the Middle East.

2. No matter how reluctant Trump may be, Israel cannot agree to a ceasefire; ammunition reserves are not an insurmountable problem.

3. Iran is embroiled in fierce internal political struggles; the Revolutionary Guards hold real power, while the influence of the clerical establishment has weakened. The Iranian government will inevitably become increasingly radical.

4. Iran’s attitude toward its neighbors is deteriorating; even when an Arab delegation offered condolences to Khamenei, Iran did not alter its diplomatic stance. The ambitions of the Persian Empire are resurging. The United States may regain the support of Arab nations.

 

[wangdefa]

With all due respect, many people are far too optimistic about the situation. This war will not end now; a temporary ceasefire cannot halt the underlying dynamics. The war is bound to resume:

1. Iran’s control of the Strait of Hormuz is something the United States cannot accept; accepting it would signify the complete collapse of U.S. hegemony in the Middle East.

2. No matter how reluctant Trump may be, Israel cannot agree to a ceasefire; ammunition reserves are not an insurmountable problem.

3. Iran is embroiled in fierce internal political struggles; the Revolutionary Guards hold real power, while the influence of the clerical establishment has weakened. The Iranian government will inevitably become increasingly radical.

4. Iran’s attitude toward its neighbors is deteriorating; even when an Arab delegation offered condolences to Khamenei, Iran did not alter its diplomatic stance. The ambitions of the Persian Empire are resurging. The United States may regain the support of Arab nations.

Their operational plans are evolving too quickly—from targeting Israel to bases around the United States, and then to blockading the straits. I even suspect that each new commander’s strategy is inconsistent with the previous one. A snake can never swallow an entire elephant.

 

[Immortals]

Iranian counterattack underway

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[PK781]

It seems to be time to start targeting the facilities that allow human life to exist in the PGCC.

unfortunately it will be very very costly for all involved if this happens.
In iran and in the gulf countries. Hope Israel also suffers this if/when it happens

it won't really affect the americans/military as their own soil is 10,000kms away......

in other words.......shit will hit the fan!

 

[PK781]

Iran should completely target and destroy the Ben Gurion airport at TLV

 

[Jango]

Again, why was Iran targeting civilian vessels?

 

[Immortals]

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More missiles launched

US still attacking

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