Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Most probably IDF airstrike, they are participating in the latest round of attacks without announcing it to avoid Iranian retaliation… the entity would have no qualms about hitting a live nuclear reactor..
Could be the US as well, never forget, US, Israel, EU etc don't believe in rules or Ganeva convention, they will do any and everything to destroy their opposition and if it means spreading radiation in the entire region, then so be it. They only see themselves as human while others are just sub humans/monkeys/slaves in their eyes therefore nothing of value will be lost if a few hundred thousand die.
 
One of the priority targets should be the Tankers. We know all that they're operating well inside PGG.
IRGC should calculate the exact Air base and hit them just when arrived back from their missions.
Other system can be even easier. Just a lenj wooden boat with a pair of Shaheds 359 can down one of this birds. They're not useful against fighters but against HVT they're great. I suspect Irán use any naval plataform to hit at least 2 of them during the past sessions, and they can try again.
 


Keep eyes on this flight over the next few hours. If Saudis forcibly try to intercept it then all hell could break loose.

This is an Iranian plane, we should already be making very clear to Saudis that any attempt to interfere with it will be seen as an attack on Iran and lead to an instant and disproportionate military response on Riyadh.
 


Keep eyes on this flight over the next few hours. If Saudis forcibly try to intercept it then all hell could break loose.

This is an Iranian plane, we should already be making very clear to Saudis that any attempt to interfere with it will be seen as an attack on Iran and lead to an instant and disproportionate military response on Riyadh.


The fact the Saudis let it through surely indicates they have no plan to interfer in it's return journey?
 
Iranian official are divided in this matter ...
If they want fight , they should fight without thought of tomorrow

This is going to be a long long war. Iran should fight this with intelligence and not emotion. There is a lot of Iranians who are emotional(and rightly so!!!!) and want a like for like thinking that is the correct approach to the war. The purpose and strategy (imho) is not to respond on a 1:1 basis as that will exhaust Iran's resources, and that strategy will cause Iran to fail this war in the long run as the USA has unlimited resources and Iran's are limited due to sanctions(this is a reality..) and economy.

The purpose is to understand there is a strategic chessboard here, where the current stage is now is on "who controls the straits". The Americans want to remove Iran's control of the straits. Iran, needs to maintain that control at minimum cost in this stage, so that for the next stage of this strategic war, Iran still has resources to fight that next stage. Iran should do what it is doing, i.e. cause global economic chaos to force pressure on the world, and selectively and surgically take out parts of the USA infrastructure in the region with each round and stop USA's attempts to exert control over the straits. Iran will take some heavy blows, but that is the reality of the asymmetry and despite the visuals and optics, Iran is still winning the battle of "who controls the straits".

Once Iran wins this battle, the Americans may attempt to come back with another battle, ie a land invasion of some sort.

I do think the core Iranian war fighting military strategists of this war are being far more cold, calculating and clinical in their decisions and this is massively frustrating the USA right now and the civilian strikes are a reflection of that.

This is game theory of war, at its extreme that we are witnessing.

Iran is not getting trapped in the theatrics of war that some here want, but more objective based.
 
A time may come--and perhaps coming very soon--that all the wishy washiness in Iran goes away and they go for the broke and start an all out war--a regional war--with possibly mobilization of tens of millions of Iranians into Iraq and toward Israel, along with the allies in Iraq, Yemen, and Lebanon.
That's how I see Iran is going to wage the ultimate war for its survival as a sovereign nation. Iran has a large, resilient, and motivated population for a land war.

I can see Iran wage a land war, into Iraq if the Americans use the Kurds to attempt to invade Iran to liberate Iraq from the USA occupation as the ongoing USA occupation poses a significant threat to Iran.

They may struggle without airpower though.
 
Increasingly so this whole situation seems like it will now be the status quo and a Russia-Ukraine like situation. No full scale war but no peace either. Iran can wait this thing out, the GCC and the West cannot...

Actually its equally painful for Iran if not more. If US puts a blockade back then Iran cannot sell the oil. It was selling considerable amounts to China previously.

In GCC, the UAE sold the record oil in last month. Its now completely using alternate route (via pipelines). Its not using SOH at all. KSA also has alternate pipeline route available. Oman is already outside SOH. Yeah you can punish Kuwait, Bahrain, Iraq and Qatar. But US hardly cares about those countries anymore.



 
I hope the Iranians just send out their welcome mat to the Israelis and just bomb the hell out of gurion with repeated waves they’re going to join soon probably next 24 hours or less if these military planes are flying out of Israel than the Iranians have to go all in first before they do it

Given how concentrated the USA presence in Ben Gurion is right now, you have to assume that a coordinated strike should be able to take out a couple of air refuellers, right? Do a mass strike of cluster bomblet based missiles. Large aircraft don't need much to go bye bye.
 
Actually its equally painful for Iran if not more. If US puts a blockade back then Iran cannot sell the oil. It was selling considerable amounts to China previously.

In GCC, the UAE sold the record oil in last month. Its now completely using alternate route (via pipelines). Its not using SOH at all. KSA also has alternate pipeline route available. Oman is already outside SOH. Yeah you can punish Kuwait, Bahrain, Iraq and Qatar. But US hardly cares about those countries anymore.




Yeah, good point, but this instability in not good for investment and tourism in the region. Something the Saudia, Qataris and Emiratis push hard for. Iran never had these so much less to lose on this front
 

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