Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Ali_Baba]

12.58333°, 43.41667°
Depends on which are the lats and the longs. I thought somewhere in northern Europe! Hahah!

i let google do the heavy lifting on thought!

 

[VCheng]

12.58333°, 43.41667°
This will be the next flashpoint in this conflict.

Probably not likely for the foreseeable future.

 

[RescueRanger]

And the question is will the Saudi's and UAE and Israel, USA all work together against the Houthis ? The airbase in Somaliland is basically ready now for UAE + IDF IAF to use.

We will have to "wait and see" (TM)

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Of course that only goes to show that it is not my responsibility to remove anyone's self-deception, Sir.

So why bother heng?

You don't even know what you're talking about... it is whatever reconciles with your personal rationale anyways.

Please feel free to pretend as you wish in this matter.

If you had a rebuttal you wouldn't have quoted me to say that... move on.

Geopolitically, Iran remains isolated for a myriad of reasons, and that remains an unfortunate reality.

It is until it isn't!
Nature works in mysterious ways.

 

[RescueRanger]

Probably not likely for the foreseeable future.

Perhaps.

 

[Meengla]

Do I got a bridge to sell you..... And do you know how contradictory you're sounding here? If the Arab leadership's [financial] assets hinges on Western hegemony/presence in the region then how could their influence be waning?

Watch the Alex Krainer video I posted just above and watch only half hour of it and then sell any bridge or river or yacht to him as I was merely giving a gist of his video.

But my understanding of Alex is thus: The Western influence in the region is based on a historic protection pledge to the rich Arab countries and by now, as Alex says, the regional countries, with the exception of perhaps MBZ of UAE, have realized that it was a false protection promise and they are thinking of getting out of the old order but slowly, so as to not jeopardize their 5 $ trillion. And that is a practical route forward.

 

[VCheng]

It is until it isn't!
Nature works in mysterious ways.

Nature might indeed work that way, but Iran's isolation is geopolitical, not natural.

And as you admit, Iran indeed is isolated for now, until geopolitical imperatives make a change, since nothing is permanent in the geopolitical world, only national interests.

(Using childish names is only for the young and foolish, or B-class larval minds, BTW.)

 

[RescueRanger]

@bengalcdn please don't use insults against other members.

 

[VCheng]

Perhaps.

One would hope that the current regional conflict does not spill over into a wider area. For that to happen, much else has to go awry first.

Of course, war remains unpredictable, but perhaps some here with those magical crystal balls can tell us what will happen in this regard?

 

[RzA]

The blockade hurts the US just as much and is an example of Trump's stupidity. Gas prices were why he was so eager to sign some sort of ceasefire with Iran. Read the below article.

You're kidding? You're treating two very different situations as equal. Yes, Americans are feeling the pinch at the gas pump, but that's a temporary headache compared to the crushing blow this blockade deals to Iran's economy. The article points out that the U.S. is taking a hit, but comparing annoying inflation to completely choking off a country's main source of income misses the bigger picture entirely.

When you look at the details, the financial impacts just aren't comparable. The U.S. is dealing with expensive diesel and some dips in the stock market, whereas Iran is being starved of billions in vital national revenue. On top of that, the blockade scores a massive, long-term strategic win for the U.S. By breaking Iran's grip on the Strait of Hormuz, it forces Gulf nations to find new shipping routes, which permanently destroys our leverage in the region.

Finally, the idea that the administration was desperate for a ceasefire just to fix gas prices doesn't make sense given what actually happened. They deliberately chose to restart the blockade knowing full well what it would do to the markets. They clearly decided that stomaching some domestic inflation was a price worth paying to achieve their larger foreign policy goals.

 

[Watandar]

Hmm, UAE can easily be added to the target list and would richly deserve it as well.

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[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Nature might indeed work that way, but Iran's isolation is geopolitical, not natural.

And as you admit, Iran indeed is isolated for now, until geopolitical imperatives make a change, since nothing is permanent in the geopolitical world, only national interests.

(Using childish names is only for the young and foolish, or B-class larval minds, BTW.)

Ok, I choose young...
Nothing else to be bothered bit...
You have kept this avatar for a fair bit... probably created some affinity to it...
Nuff said

 

[RzA]

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No worries, we'll lobby a few missiles and drones at some insignificant target and call it a day.

 

[RescueRanger]

@VCheng and @Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ

Sirs,

Both of you are senior members, chaddo and mitti pao. Agree to disagree and move on.

God bless.

 

[Persian Gulf]

No worries, we'll lobby a few missiles and drones at some insignificant target and call it a day.

It gets worse:

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