Balochistan Terrorism Watch

[hussain0216]

This is the main issue all over Pakistan, the poor awaam is exploited by the ruling elite, when people oppose this then force is used which creates long term hatred, basic rights must be given to all Pakistanis.

This is a nothing statement

 

[ahmedtarar]

Can we not launch an air operation against India?

Lol, if we could we would have done it by now. It will be a full scale war and with this economy in dump and all these raging insurgencies, we would be better off by not indulging in any such misadventures.

 

[PakAl]

All PDF Pakistani members opposes terorrism in Balochistan, the difference of opinion is how to tackle it. Some say kill them all but we have been trying this forever, we kill 100s and 100s more are created. To win a war we need to win hearts and minds, bring the Balochistan population on Pakistan side, bring development, education, national ideology of Pakistan, peace, jobs, slowly isolate the militants ideology and then finish off the remaining terrorists. Recent terrorism started around 25 years ago, has Pakistan produces a counter extremism, fundamentalism, terrorism, separatists policy, an ideology that aligns the general public towards Pakistan. The current political class and leadership have completely failed Pakistan but they are again made the rulers. The biggest method we use is military action, which kills terrorists plus innocents, this is then used against the state.

Our media is also waste of time, all they have is talk shows where they argue and fight, which creates toxic environment and hatred. Have they ever produced positive news about Pakistan, teach the nation on the development, schools, health facilities which are built, how Pakistan progressed from 1947 till today, how peace and security brings development and creates strong economy, which then benefits the common people. Unfortunately the separatists and extremists are winning the hearts and mind games.

 

[Distant_Observer]

All PDF Pakistani members opposes terorrism in Balochistan, the difference of opinion is how to tackle it. Some say kill them all but we have been trying this forever, we kill 100s and 100s more are created.

We have not.

Until there is a ground invasion and occupation of Balochistan on the scale of zarb e azb then we can't say this has been attempted.

IBO's with poorly trained FC is treading very lightly.

Balochistan and its rough terrain and peaks, the strongholds in Afghanistan and Iran. Networks and supply chains in Oman and Iraq need the full treatment.

Then we can say brute force has been tried and if they do this then within 6 months the entire region will be ours and Baloch will live peacefully and become prosperous and happy and well integrated Pakistani citizens.

 

[hussain0216]

Pakistan needs to come to an arrangement with the Taliban. This current policy of fighting BLA, TTP and the Taliban in Afghanistan simultaneously is deeply flawed and a proven flop. Once Taliban-Pakistan relations improve, their support for TTP/BLA will decrease.

You have been outplayed and it is time to admit this and change course.

The Taliban are AFGHANS

It's the same group attacking you

The flawed thinking is that any Afghan is trustworthy or that we can make a deal with them

The reality is that Pakistan is in a war , on one side we have hindutva extremists

And the other we have Afghans and Baloch who want to take over Pakistani territory and both are attacking us



If a war is being waged upon us then we have to FIGHT, we can't make excuses, go easy, look for ways out of a existential threat

We now need to accept reality, and this means treating the Afghans no different to how we would treat the Hindutva

We need to hit Afghanistan and start major operations inside Pakistan border regions, declare martial law and take the battle to our enemies


We no longer have a option

 

[user]

I have better idea, drop tactical nukes and keeping dropping it till Taliban is no more. Sound fair to me.

The Hindu Kush mountains would absorb much of the blast and heat but winds keep blowing throughout the year from Afghanistan into Pakistan; that would cause trouble.

Further, there is an inherent problem of indiscriminate overkill.

 

[Distant_Observer]

Further, there is an inherent problem of indiscriminate overkill.

Over 70 thousands Pakistanis have died. I think we have gone beyond thinking about overkill or the sentiments of Afghan civilians. Families of the taliban and their tribes are all fair game now.

 

[hussain0216]

We have not.

Until there is a ground invasion and occupation of Balochistan on the scale of zarb e azb then we can't say this has been attempted.

IBO's with poorly trained FC is treading very lightly.

Balochistan and its rough terrain and peaks, the strongholds in Afghanistan and Iran. Networks and supply chains in Oman and Iraq need the full treatment.

Then we can say brute force has been tried and if they do this then within 6 months the entire region will be ours and Baloch will live peacefully and become prosperous and happy and well integrated Pakistani citizens.

We have farmed this conflict out to hapless local police and FC who are useless

We either need to heavily armed them, give them fast response units or start a proper operation and level the areas where our intelligence knows are COMPLICIT villages

 

[PakAl]

We have not.

Until there is a ground invasion and occupation of Balochistan on the scale of zarb e azb then we can't say this has been attempted.

IBO's with poorly trained FC is treading very lightly.

Balochistan and its rough terrain and peaks, the strongholds in Afghanistan and Iran. Networks and supply chains in Oman and Iraq need the full treatment.

Then we can say brute force has been tried and if they do this then within 6 months the entire region will be ours and Baloch will live peacefully and become prosperous and happy and well integrated Pakistani citizens.

Pakistan security forces need reforms. FC, levies etc need to be incorporated in to Balochistan Rangers, same with FC in KPK. It should be army, rangers and police, all with special wings for counter terrorism, intelligence, special operations etc. The rangers need to be trained in how to negotiate and win over local people, fight terrorism, insurgency etc, leave army for the borders.

Regarding operations in KPK, we still have militant attacks in Tribal areas, its full of different militants so what prosperous and happy citizens?.

 

[user]

I think if we conduct a comprehensive and systematic study of the Taliban fabric, we would be able to develop deterrence that would work on them.

 

[hussain0216]

I think if we conduct a comprehensive and systematic study of the Taliban fabric, we would be able to develop deterrence that would work on them.

All you have to do is punish Afghanistan for it's terrorism

At the moment all Afghanistan loses is a bunch of worthless nobodies who are are killed by Pakistan security, they will just be replaced by the next group of nobodies

That's not a deterrent

If for every terrorist attack, we launch major strikes on Afghanistan and hit vital areas, infrastructure and population centers of the people attacking us

Then you are giving Afghanistan a cost for their terrorism

If they kill 10 police, we should blast a Afghan town, base, Infrastructure as punishment, destroy the meager resources they have

It's their choice on whether terrorism is then worth the consequences

 

[PakAl]

I think if we conduct a comprehensive and systematic study of the Taliban fabric, we would be able to develop deterrence that would work on them.

Afghanistan nationalist ideology is really strong, meanwhile Pakistan leadership is incompetent and failure, all they do is loot and oppress its people. To counter Taliban we need to promote Pakistan ideology, Allama Iqbal ideology, Muhammad Ali Jinnah, our historical Islamic heritage and 5000 years plus of history. Probably 5% of the population knows this. The rest either go towards religious extremism, separatism or corruption, social media is created big monsters.

 

[user]

All you have to do is punish Afghanistan for it's terrorism

At the moment all Afghanistan loses is a bunch of worthless nobodies who are are killed by Pakistan security, they will just be replaced by the next group of nobodies

That's not a deterrent

If for every terrorist attack, we launch major strikes on Afghanistan and hit vital areas, infrastructure and population centers of the people attacking us

Then you are giving Afghanistan a cost for their terrorism

If they kill 10 police, we should blast a Afghan town, base, Infrastructure as punishment, destroy the meager resources they have

It's their choice on whether terrorism is then worth the consequences

It means we are not mapping the networks correctly. Once we do that, we would see HVTs, brokers and nodes that are difficult to replace.

 

[Distant_Observer]

It means we are not mapping the networks correctly. Once we do that, we would see HVTs, brokers and nodes that are difficult to replace.

Imran Khan, Achkazai, Manzoor Pashteen, PTI, Adil Raja, Imran Riaz Khan.

Refugees and the undocumented tresspassers and children of afghans larping on Pakistani documents operate as eyes and ears reporting on military movement and anyone that speaks out against the taliban.

BLA in helmand and Kandahar, TTP in in Kandahar, Khost, Naghanar, Paktia, Kabul.

There you go.

Flatten Afghan border towns and kill anything that moves near the border for durable peace and prosperity in Pakistan. Your welcome.

 

[muz]

another mass casualty attack happend in Mastung while rumours has it Mohsin Naqvi in guise of searching for an SHO abroad is having a fancy vacation in that infamous Gulfstream jet while marshal munir is busy spreading unlimited peace and doing brainstorming for the population control project (rumour has it he might try sanjay gandhi style population control that happend in India mid to late 1970s)