Turkish UAV/UCAV Projects
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MMM-E
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First in Turkiye, second in NATO ! Export contracts have been signed with 5 countries for the first domestic nano Helicopter NanoAlp.
USA : Black Hornet 3/4
Turkiye : NANOALP
China : Fengniao
The UK has developed BUG nano UAV under 250 grams
Uludoğan Defense Chairman of the Board Seyfeddin Uludoğan said the following on the matter:
“We have currently signed export agreements with 5 different countries. We have reached the delivery stage with 2 different countries"
First export was made to the UAE
Negotiations are ongoing with many more countries. There is intense demand. We have reached the agreement stage with Indonesia.
Technical specifications:
*Weight: 100g
*Payload capacity: 350g
*Maximum speed: 36km/h
*Flight duration: 30+ minutes
*Communication range: 4km
General features:
*Mission profiles: Reconnaissance, intelligence, kamikaze attack (capable of carrying hand grenades, C4, etc. explosives)
*Fully autonomous flight
*Silent (inaudible from 3m away)
*Sensor fusion
*Mission execution in GNSS-denied or heavily jammed environments
*Night and day operational capability
Counterpart's export price is 200,000 USD, while NanoAlp is 50% more cost-effective in comparison.
UAVs lighter than 200g and smaller than 25cm are called nano.
USA : Black Hornet 3/4
Turkiye : NANOALP
China : Fengniao
The UK has developed BUG nano UAV under 250 grams
Uludoğan Defense Chairman of the Board Seyfeddin Uludoğan said the following on the matter:
“We have currently signed export agreements with 5 different countries. We have reached the delivery stage with 2 different countries"
First export was made to the UAE
Negotiations are ongoing with many more countries. There is intense demand. We have reached the agreement stage with Indonesia.
Technical specifications:
*Weight: 100g
*Payload capacity: 350g
*Maximum speed: 36km/h
*Flight duration: 30+ minutes
*Communication range: 4km
General features:
*Mission profiles: Reconnaissance, intelligence, kamikaze attack (capable of carrying hand grenades, C4, etc. explosives)
*Fully autonomous flight
*Silent (inaudible from 3m away)
*Sensor fusion
*Mission execution in GNSS-denied or heavily jammed environments
*Night and day operational capability
Counterpart's export price is 200,000 USD, while NanoAlp is 50% more cost-effective in comparison.
UAVs lighter than 200g and smaller than 25cm are called nano.
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MMM-E
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TUSAŞ General Manager Mehmet Demiroğlu | Airport
The payload capacity of ANKA-3 has increased from 1.3 tons to 1.7 tons.
The new ANKA-3 will have a larger size and air-to-air engagement capability.
There is also interest from foreign Countries
The payload capacity of ANKA-3 has increased from 1.3 tons to 1.7 tons.
The new ANKA-3 will have a larger size and air-to-air engagement capability.
There is also interest from foreign Countries
hyperman
INT'L MOD
I think this is the first time the Internal Weapons bay has been used, if I'm not mistaken.
Soon we will see the Air to Air BVR missile being shot from the Internal Weapons Bay.
At which point it will be safe to say the Kizilelma A is ready in all aspects with demonstrated capability.
Merzifonlu
Registered Member
Nope. This bird needs the engine it deserves to reach its true potential.
hyperman
INT'L MOD
well yes of course, but I mean in terms of tests and testing and demonstrated capability. Not hardware limitations, Baykar can't do anything about the engine matter, either a new engine will be developed by them or TEI will have the TF10000 ready, but there is no real timeline for that, when its ready it will be integrated.
In terms of tests, its all there, the IRST tests are done, the EOTS tests are done, the air to ground tests are all complete, both internal and external launch, the air to air has been tested, and now only thing missing is the internal weapons bay test of the air to air missile.
Merzifonlu
Registered Member
I suggest Safran M88 T-Rex for KE. 
Sinan
Registered Member
You wanna be depended on France for engine ?I suggest Safran M88 T-Rex for KE.
It's out of question.
hyperman
INT'L MOD
MMM-E
Elite Member
No need M-88 T-REX Engine ..... KIZILELMA will not make dogfight
1 x AI-322F engine is enough to power the KIZIELMA for BVR combat ( the kinematics )
Stealth capabilities are much more important for the KIZILELMA
2 X TF-10.000 Engines will definitely provide the thrust that the M88 T-REX engine would provide.
2 X TF-10.000 Engines will allow the KIZILELMA-C to easily reach supersonic speeds and carry heavy ammunition for longer combat radius and it inherits that kinetic energy. This can increase the missile's effective range by 30% to 50%
Modern air warfare is defined by stealth, sensor fusion and long range engagements
1 x AI-322F engine is enough to power the KIZIELMA for BVR combat ( the kinematics )
Stealth capabilities are much more important for the KIZILELMA
2 X TF-10.000 Engines will definitely provide the thrust that the M88 T-REX engine would provide.
2 X TF-10.000 Engines will allow the KIZILELMA-C to easily reach supersonic speeds and carry heavy ammunition for longer combat radius and it inherits that kinetic energy. This can increase the missile's effective range by 30% to 50%
Modern air warfare is defined by stealth, sensor fusion and long range engagements
MMM-E
Elite Member
As of 2026 , only USA and Turkiye in the World and Turkish one is better
KIZILELMA vs YFQ-44A
KIZILELMA ... TURKIYE
Primary Role : Independent Unmanned Combat Fighter
MURAD-100A AESA Radar
TOYGUN EOTS
KARAT IRST
FEWS-U EW Suite
Stealth design
Internal weapon bays for stealth flight capability
YFQ-44A ... USA
Primary Role : Collaborative Combat Aircraft / Loyal Wingman
No AESA Radar
No EOTS
No IRST
No EW Suite
No stealth design
No internal weapon bays
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In a BVR combat engagement, the KIZILELMA holds the tactical advantage over the YFQ-44A due to its autonomous independence and superior AESA Radar to stealth integration
Why KIZILELMA wins the BVR Engagement
-- Radar Independence vs Network Dependence
-- The Stealth-Weapon superiority
-- Proven sensor to Missile autonomy
Its time to fire BVR air to air Missile from internal weapon bay
KIZILELMA vs YFQ-44A
KIZILELMA ... TURKIYE
Primary Role : Independent Unmanned Combat Fighter
MURAD-100A AESA Radar
TOYGUN EOTS
KARAT IRST
FEWS-U EW Suite
Stealth design
Internal weapon bays for stealth flight capability
YFQ-44A ... USA
Primary Role : Collaborative Combat Aircraft / Loyal Wingman
No AESA Radar
No EOTS
No IRST
No EW Suite
No stealth design
No internal weapon bays
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In a BVR combat engagement, the KIZILELMA holds the tactical advantage over the YFQ-44A due to its autonomous independence and superior AESA Radar to stealth integration
Why KIZILELMA wins the BVR Engagement
-- Radar Independence vs Network Dependence
-- The Stealth-Weapon superiority
-- Proven sensor to Missile autonomy
Its time to fire BVR air to air Missile from internal weapon bay
Pokemonte13
Registered Member
I think the YFQ 44A has a Radar or the possibility to carry one at least and can have an EW payload if needed
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