Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[ShapurII]

the cuck speech about forbid nukes is tiring.

it only has sense from the enemy perspective.

you harm no one building nukes. you only harm if you use nukes. repeat until fully understand it.

Even the use of nuclear weapons is not haram in retaliation. Weapons of mass destruction did not exist back then. There is no specific mention of weapons of mass destruction in the Quran, obviously. However, the Quran says Muslims should not bring harm to civilians or animals, or the lands they conquer indiscriminately.

On the other hand, Islam explicitly says that Muslims have to treat their enemies in the same way they have treated them. Basically, it means that if your enemy nuked you, nuke them back. It is right from the Quran, Surah Al-Baqarah 2:194

"So whoever has assaulted you, then assault him in the same way that he has assaulted you."

If anything, nuking your enemy in retaliation is completely in line with the Quran.

And in Surah Al-Anfal 8:60, Quran explicitly orders Muslims to arm themselves with whatever weapon that is available. It is not a recommendation, it is not an opinion. It is a divine duty for Muslims to arm themselves with whatever they can, including nuclear weapons.

 

[ShapurII]

The problem with that line is, by the time you find out genocide is underway it is already too late. Reminds me of "no war no negotiations."

He thinks if he flattens Tel Aviv and Haifa, Israel will just watch and won't nuke Tehran. What a retard lol

He constantly whines that if Iran acquires nuclear weapons, the US and Israel will nuke us but then promotes that we should attack Dimona, which is an active nuclear facility, which without a shred of doubt will lead to nuclear retaliation by Israel at least.

He's either retarded, or a Mossad agent disguising himself as a pro-Iran person. There's no other explanation.

 

[Kyussis]

Then why the hell did you accumulate 440 kilograms of 60% HEU?

I mean make it make sense. Choose one. Either do not build nukes and give up on that stupid useless nuclear program which has caused nothing but three decades of sanctions and suffering, or grow a pair and build them.

Iran will never give up on its right to a peaceful nuclear program. Iran enriched to 60% HEU as a bargaining chip. Iran was willing to dilute it down to below 5% if a proper deal could be made.

 

[ShapurII]

Iran will never give up on its right to a peaceful nuclear program. Iran enriched to 60% HEU as a bargaining chip. Iran was willing to dilute it down to below 5% if a proper deal could be made.

A bargaining chip for what exactly?

Iran never had a peaceful nuclear program. Iran couldn't produce even one year worth of Bushehr's nuclear fuel after 20 years of enrichment. lol

 

[Kyussis]

He thinks if he flattens Tel Aviv and Haifa, Israel will just watch and won't nuke Tehran. What a retard lol

He constantly whines that if Iran acquires nuclear weapons, the US and Israel will nuke us but then promotes that we should attack Dimona, which is an active nuclear facility, which without a shred of doubt will lead to nuclear retaliation by Israel at least.

He's either retarded, or a Mossad agent disguising himself as a pro-Iran person. There's no other explanation.

I was asked what could Iran do in retaliation to Tehran and Esfehan being nuked!
So if I don't want to see Iran nuked in the pursuit of Nukes, I must be retarded or a Mossad agent huh? Get over yourself

 

[ShapurII]

I was asked what could Iran do in retaliation to Tehran and Esfehan being nuked!

So, Tehran and Isfahan have been nuked, hundreds of thousands of people have died already, millions need medical treatment which will be impossible to provide and will die in a matter of days due to high radiation exposure and severe burns, millions of people have become homeless and have to leave the nearby areas and satellite cities of Tehran and your answer is to attack Dimona?

OK. Let's study that scenario. You will attack Dimona. First of all, before you do that, the Israelis will shut down Dimona. They're not stupid. Every modern nuclear reactor can be shut down gracefully with no radiation risk. And even if Iranian missiles land on Dimona and do not get intercepted, at best, you'll have something on a significantly smaller scale than what happened in Fukushima, Japan.

What do you think will happen then? The Israelis will nuke Shiraz, Tabriz, Mashhad, Qom, and possibly other populated cities one by one, in any order they want. What will be your response then?

So if I don't want to see Iran nuked in the pursuit of Nukes, I must be retarded or a Mossad agent huh? Get over yourself

No, you want to see Iran nuked over the pursuit of Palestinian liberation, and lack of deterrence in response to the US and Israeli atrocities against our country. But that's just the appearance of it. Nobody knows your real intentions for writing such nonsense.

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

He thinks if he flattens Tel Aviv and Haifa, Israel will just watch and won't nuke Tehran. What a retard lol

He constantly whines that if Iran acquires nuclear weapons, the US and Israel will nuke us but then promotes that we should attack Dimona, which is an active nuclear facility, which without a shred of doubt will lead to nuclear retaliation by Israel at least.

He's either retarded, or a Mossad agent disguising himself as a pro-Iran person. There's no other explanation.

No need for personal attacks, he has his own opinion (influenced by religious interpretations which other Shia could disagree with), but I just consider it unrealistic and dangerous. I think there was a poll in Iran which showed 70-80% of Iranians want Iran to posses nuclear weapons.

 

[ShapurII]

No need for personal attacks, he has his own opinion (influenced by religious interpretations which other Shia could disagree with), but I just consider it unrealistic and dangerous. I think there was a poll in Iran which showed 70-80% of Iranians want Iran to posses nuclear weapons.

His ideas are extremely dangerous. Period.

 

[Hazard]

A weapon that destroys a large swath of land along with everything on it is absolutely Haram. Iran will never develop Nuclear weapons as long as it is an Islamic nation. The Individual who wrote that fatwa was not afraid of death and died a just man with the largest crowd of mourners in all of Human history. Iran is full of men and women who don't need to hide behind the most disgustingly vile weapon to have ever been devised!

I suppose you don't know or understand the concept of DETTERENT. It has worked for every Nuclear nation so far. No offence to anyone but security of the state should NEVER be handed over to Mullahs. They're extremely dumb, lack foresight and critical thinking, can't see beyond what's written in black and white and more often than not wrong in just about every subject.

 

[Hazard]

For the proponents of Iran acquiring Nuclear weapons. Do you think it is possible that Iran can build them without the U.S sniffing it out? How do you think the U.S or Israel would react if they new Iran was actively working on building them?

US/Israel have done the worst, there is northing more they can do now. Iran has taken the blows and still standing - now would be the ideal time to shut the F up and quietly get on with the task. Just keep your mouth shut, no one needs to know.

 

[BigMela2onin]

Thank God you people are not running Iran. You would have gotten Iran Nuked by now.

Well people like you are running Iran and we see where your thinking has gotten us.

 

[Eşbah]

Brent Crude-Oil is crashing. Down 10%.

Iran has just relinquished its most crucial and strategic weapon. I trust it was a worthwhile decision. For the time being, the conflict will pause until the US elections are over.

Anyone who thinks that the Americans and Israelis will refrain from launching another attack on Iran before Trump exits office is mistaken, perhaps even an idiot.

The inventors of chess have become a victim of their own game.

I feel bad for the Iranian patriots who just want their people to live in peace and dignity.

 

[Shags101]

For the proponents of Iran acquiring Nuclear weapons. Do you think it is possible that Iran can build them without the U.S sniffing it out? How do you think the U.S or Israel would react if they new Iran was actively working on building them?

I think it’s possible if they are only finding out now Iran has moved uranium and centrifuges to pick axe but I’m more of Iran is damned if you do damned if you don’t so might as well be damned if you do they’re going to revisit Iran in the near future regardless let’s say another fake 60 day ceasefire with the same repeated rounds like we have seen sooner or later one or the other is going to escalate to the point of no return

 

[ShapurII]

Brent Crude-Oil is crashing. Down 10%.

Iran has just relinquished its most crucial and strategic weapon. I trust it was a worthwhile decision. For the time being, the conflict will pause until the US elections are over.

If Trump survives November elections with a meaningful Republican majority in the Senate and the Congress as it is now, Iran will 100% lose this war.

In fact, Iran lost this war when we accepted that premature ceasefire. And I have already bookmarked my posts about why we lost the war after accepting the ceasefire for future reference. I remember people laughed at me back then, but they now can see why the ceasefire was a terrible idea.

Let's not forget that Iran hasn't been able to even resist for 60 days without pause. This means that Trump can restart the war at his convenience. The Houthis of Yemen resisted longer than us, which goes on to prove how corrupt the Islamic Republic is to the core.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

If Trump survives November elections with a meaningful Republican majority in the Senate and the Congress as it is now, Iran will 100% lose this war.

In fact, Iran lost this war when we accepted that premature ceasefire. And I have already bookmarked my posts about why we lost the war after accepting the ceasefire for future reference. I remember people laughed at me back then, but they now can see why the ceasefire was a terrible idea.

Let's not forget that Iran hasn't been able to even resist for 60 days without pause. This means that Trump can restart the war at his convenience. The Houthis of Yemen resisted longer than us, which goes on to prove how corrupt the Islamic Republic is to the core.

If Trump and the GOP win the midterm election, it would require Iran to endure another 2 harsh years, but the country won't be lost.

If the democrats win, then Iran could have its physical relief very soon as the democrats winning the midterm meaning that they are going back in 2029.

The returning of the democrats mean that they are going to re-mobilize the entire western world to maneuver against China, but it won't specifically target Iran but to try to cozy up with Iran.

They are not going to follow the absolute pro-Israel stance who wants to brutally crush Iran in a massive onslaught, but rather to infiltrate you with pro-west agents.