Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Immortals]

The strait is leaky! IRGC failing in real time. Up to 5-7MBPD is leaving the SoH with US air cover support! Add in the 2MBPD from UAE pipeline bypass! FAILURE!

 

[hasssanali8998]

The strait is leaky! IRGC failing in real time. Up to 5-7MBPD is leaving the SoH with US air cover support! Add in the 2MBPD from UAE pipeline bypass! FAILURE!

still firing warning shots lol

 

[Immortals]

 

[BHAN85]

A. Nukes ARE haram
B. The U.S would justify the use of Nuclear weapons if Iran were to pursue the production of Nuclear weapons.

Use nukes could be haram.

To have nukes as deterrence and never use it, it can never be haram. What is the wrong thing in have a weapon you never use it?

And all countries who have nukes, they never used it, except one.

BTW the first and unique use of nukes it was as response to Pearl Harbor attack.

USA has already attacked Iran navy, so they have already signed for nuclear escalation.

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

Strait of Hormuz will not return to ‘pre-war situation’, says Iranian spokesperson​

Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesperson Esmail Baghaei says that the Strait of Hormuz will “never return to the pre-war situation”, Iran’s Fars news outlet reports.

According to the spokesperson, ongoing talks between Iran and Oman about the waterway have nothing to do with the opening or closing of the Strait of Hormuz, adding that the closure of the strait was due to “US sabotage and the naval blockade of Iran.”

Baghaei said the talks were bilateral and that discussions aimed at reaching a “mechanism that will secure our interests” were not new and have “been going on for a long time.”

“The Islamic Republic of Iran acts based on the interests and concerns of the country and will not change its decision under the influence of threats and intimidation from others,” he said.

Baghaei added that Iran “will not back down from its positions due to threats and media pressure.”

 

[Nawnaw1]

The strait is leaky! IRGC failing in real time. Up to 5-7MBPD is leaving the SoH with US air cover support! Add in the 2MBPD from UAE pipeline bypass! FAILURE!

Wonderful. I hope 20 mbpd leave Hormuz and you can cry a bit more.

So Iran gets no Hormuz priveleges, is bombed to sh*t and has nothing to show for it? That's quite a country you're from.

 

[Eşbah]

Of course because attacking Israel, is attacking America.

Iran’s strategy was never a direct war with Israel it was a suffocation strategy. The goal was to build a ring of fire around Israel until Israel implodes from its social demographic issues and America loses its superpower status under its massive debt burden and a rising China. It was a game of patience.

The ring of fire compromised of Hezbollah, Hamas, Assad, Iraq, Yemen and as a future project Jordan.

However, Israel got a gift from Hamas who went suicidal and destroyed themselves in Oct 2023. Assad couldn’t reunify the country and neither Russia nor Iran had tens of billions of dollars to prop him up under brutal Western sanctions, so Syria fell under economy collapse same way Venezuela did. The military and officials turned on their leader and stopped fighting.

Right then and there the ring of strategy fell apart as Israel poked a hole in two fronts and went on the counter offensive. The rest is history and doesn’t need explaining.

But Iran at one point was patrolling the Golan heights and the Lebanon/Israel border. So it’s impressive a country that nearly 1800KM away was able to patrol Israel’s borders. Can Saudi Arabia say that? Can Qatar say that? Can Turkey say that? Can Pakistan say that? No. Not even Saddam (the strongest Arab leader in recent history) could say that.



Neither Pakistan or Turkey would attack, both have serious issues in being in a sustained war. U.S. prevented an LNG tanker from going to Pakistan. What did Pakistan do about it? Nothing.

Do we really think Pakistan is going to war with Israel when it has to borrow money from IMF and Arab countries just to survive? Do we think Erodgan of Turkey is going to go to war with Israel when the Turkish Lira has lost 99% of its value against the dollar? When they have had to sell tons of gold on open market to keep the economy alive?

Neither Turkey nor Pakistan has the war chest or energy independence for such a move.

You can point to your fighter jets and your missiles and your fancy weaponary, but none of that matters if you don’t have money and energy to feed your war machine. War runs on molecules and gold, not weapons. Before the war, Putin had amassed a war chest of nearly 500B dollars. Russia can feed its war machine with its own oil and natural gas. That is why Russia is able to fight indefinitely.

Pakistan and Turkey have neither of these. And in case of Iran it may have the energy independence to supply its war machine, but lacks the needed war chest for a sustained conflict.

I truly appreciate your perspective on Iran. Your insights contribute significantly to forming a comprehensive understanding of the situation in Iran, even though I may not fully agree with all your points.

However, your comments regarding Turkey reflect a misunderstanding of the country. Iran's military doctrine is fundamentally based on enduring damage and practicing 'strategic patience,' which is not the case for Turkey (or Pakistan for that matter). The depreciation of our currency was a result of a (stupid) deliberate decision made by Erdogan himself to win the presidential election, which will likely lead to his removal from office in the next election. Very ironic because for the first time during his political career, his foreign policy is yielding positive results in Europe, Russia, US, China, the Gulf and even Iran. He is winning literally everywhere except at home.

Also, just because Turkey has not taken military action in Gaza does not imply that we are incapable of doing so. During the height of the Cold War, Turkey did intervene militarily in Cyprus and established a new Turkish state on "White", "Christian", "European" territory. Additionally, Turkey's gold reserves have been fluctuating but have shown an upward trend for several years, meaning: these trades are not something unheard of in Turkey. You just fell for the social media hype.

Turkish central bank rebuilds gold reserves, closes swap positions - Türkiye Today

CBRT lifts gold reserves to 730 tons as it unwinds swap positions and reserves recover after market pressure eases

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Turkey may not have abundant energy resources, but it has a highly diversified energy supply, having pipelines from Russia, Azerbaijan, Iraq, Iran, and soon from Syria and Turkmenistan/Kazakhstan. Additionally, Turkey is home to Europe's largest battery storage projects and has rapidly expanding solar and wind power capacities, along with nearly completed nuclear power stations. While some Iranians may dismiss Turkey out of misplaced pride, the reality is that many of the initiatives you, PG, and Shapurll mentioned as necessary for Iran in the past and present are already being implemented in Turkey to strengthen its deterrence capabilities. Just look at Turkey's air defense program which on its own is nothing short of a revolution. The country is going to have one of the world's best AD networks on the planet in a couple years.

There are other layers, too. Turkey's strategic geographic position and its influence over/relationship with Europe place it in a completely different situation than Iran or any other Middle Eastern country.

Well, I appreciate your perspective as an Iranian nationalist, especially given the historical "rivalry" between Turkey and Iran; it is a window into a part of the Iranian society that I find very interesting. However, there are numerous instances where your views on Turkey are factually inaccurate. Let's be honest, your analysis is influenced by an Iranian supremacist viewpoint on top of being an American with not much sense for European politics, which is vital in all matters concerning Israel in our context. Many Muslims/Middle Easterners don't understand/overlook this fact. I could go on but I know you won't change your opinion even if faced with hard facts, however, all of these doesn't mean Turkey is invincible.

Our vulnerabilities may not be apparent to outsiders at first sight. That's all. To clarify, Israel will never launch an attack on Turkey, neither now nor in the next decade. Militarily speaking, we are too heavy for them. Even Trump (!!!) doesn't follow Satanyahoo's wishes with regards to Ankara.

However, Turkish society could easily become distracted and overly focused on its own issues with the help of foreign powers while other countries establish "irreversible realities" around us. I am not bragging here but you need to be objective and look at the last 15 years of Turkey's foreign policy, military, defence technology, industrial base vs. Iran/Saudi Arabia/PGCC/Egypt's.

If the absence of sickness is health, then the lack of missiles and drones striking one's territory represents power in the Middle East 2026.

 

[MS Sandhu]

But Iran at one point was patrolling the Golan heights and the Lebanon/Israel border. So it’s impressive a country that nearly 1800KM away was able to patrol Israel’s borders. Can Saudi Arabia say that? Can Qatar say that? Can Turkey say that? Can Pakistan say that? No. Not even Saddam (the strongest Arab leader in recent history) could say that

Let's suppose If everything goes back by 40 years, would you still want Iran to patrol Golan Heights?

 

[BigMela2onin]

Use nukes could be haram.

To have nukes as deterrence and never use it, it can never be haram. What is the wrong thing in have a weapon you never use it?

And all countries who have nukes, they never used it, except one.

BTW the first and unique use of nukes it was as response to Pearl Harbor attack.

USA has already attacked Iran navy, so they have already signed for nuclear escalation.

Why would you build a nuke to never use it? The reason Russia gets bombed every day despite having nukes is because putin is too pathetic to ever consider using it. Iran should have nukes and use them any time it sees fit. If you bomb and kill Iranian children, your cities should turn into radioactive ruins as a response. Instead, we have cowardly would-be theologians like khamenei who blocked Iran from having nukes and the means to fight back against the US. Only a jew would claim Muslims having and using nukes is "haram".

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

In a few days IRGC will attack a butt and Orangeman will bomb coastal defenses and few days later he will threaten to bomb their infrastructure.... rinse and repeat.

Orangeman is pursuing two paths to get Iran agree to his demands:

1. He is betting on the naval blockade that he placed on the Iranian ports. He believes the longer he maintains the naval blockade, the more effects it will have on the Iranian economy.

2. He bombs the Iranian coastline and is making threats to ensure the Omani side of the Strait of Hormuz remains open for outbound traffic. The tit-for-that in this option gives him opportunities to negotiate and get the price oil to come down whenever it reaches $100.

It remains to be seen whether his strategy will work, but that is the plan that DJT is pursuing.

 

[ShapurII]

The depreciation of our currency was a result of a (stupid) deliberate decision made by Erdogan himself to win the presidential election, which will likely lead to his removal from office in the next election.

I usually refrain from commenting on other countries, because I am interested only in Iran and our own internal problems; However, one has to note that the devaluation of the Turkish Lira is a direct result of Erdogan's monetary policies.

When the head of the Turkish Central Bank did warn him about the consequences of suppressing the interest rate artificially, Erdogan removed him because of his Islamic dogmatism. Turkey needs to adjust bank interest rate based on inflation rate, like all modern economies do.

The truth is that the devaluation of Iranian Rial is also mostly due to incorrect monetary policies rather than sanctions.

Inflation in Iran is estimated at 60% to 80% officially, while in some places like Tehran it is well above 100%, or even 120%. Yet, the bank interest rate has been fluctuating between 22% to 24% for the past 15 years, leading to people investing their large sums of money elsewhere, particularly in sectors like housing, cryptocurrencies and gold. This has led to uncontrolled liquidity in major sectors that affect the price of necessity goods and loss of capital from smaller markets which is the primary reason for the explosive devaluation of the Iranian Rial while we're in a recession!

Even after the war started, the Ayatollah regime failed to set new monetary policies. In this situation, if I were the President or the Head of the Central Bank, I would immediately increase the interest rate to 60% and divert the liquidity towards agriculture, livestock farmers, our armed forces and high-tech industries. We should prioritize food, rent control and weapons for now and forget about GDP growth until the war is over.

The economy is down the toilet already. People are getting bankrupt, the private sector can hardly pay its employees minimum wage which is about $100 per month now, millions of people have been fired from their jobs, and our stock market has been underperforming even against annual inflation in the last decade or so. There's no reason for this uncontrolled liquidity in Iran. Iran's stupid monetary policies has caused the devaluation of Rial by 75% against the USD in less than 2 years. This is insane and will have catastrophic results if it doesn't change.

 

[MS Sandhu]

Orangeman is pursuing two paths to get Iran agree to his demands:

1. He is betting on the naval blockade that he placed on the Iranian ports. He believes the longer he maintains the naval blockade, the more effects it will have on the Iranian economy.

2. He bombs the Iranian coastline and is making threats to ensure the Omani side of the Strait of Hormuz remains open for outbound traffic. The tit-for-that in this option gives him opportunities to negotiate and get the price oil to come down whenever it reaches $100.

It remains to be seen whether his strategy will work, but that is the plan that DJT is pursuing.

It would be foolish to let the oil flow for America because as soon as Trump fills his stomach, he will be back to another month of bombing.

 

[Oracle]

I am afraid If peace talk fail this time ( and it will) USA will attack Iran and in retaliation Iran wil destroy Arab facilities as well as USA Israel where they dont have much weapos left to decent.

Then no one can save Iran from tactical nukes and Arab nations will remain silent on it.

 

[ShapurII]

Then no one can save Iran from tactical nukes and Arab nations will remain silent on it.

I didn't know Arabs were our saviors and were so vocal about our safety and security. Thanks for the best joke of the day.

 

[BHAN85]

Why would you build a nuke to never use it? The reason Russia gets bombed every day despite having nukes is because putin is too pathetic to ever consider using it. Iran should have nukes and use them any time it sees fit. If you bomb and kill Iranian children, your cities should turn into radioactive ruins as a response. Instead, we have cowardly would-be theologians like khamenei who blocked Iran from having nukes and the means to fight back against the US. Only a jew would claim Muslims having and using nukes is "haram".

Deterrence, if you had had nukes, you wouldn't have been attacked in first place.

Nukes are always change enemy plans, even in Russia getting pounded by the West, Russia without nukes, it wouldnt exist now.

You can develop one thousand nukes and do all the fatwas you want to never use it, enemy wont believe fatwas and it will be useful as deterrence anyway.