Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[MS Sandhu]

But Iran at one point was patrolling the Golan heights and the Lebanon/Israel border. So it’s impressive a country that nearly 1800KM away was able to patrol Israel’s borders. Can Saudi Arabia say that? Can Qatar say that? Can Turkey say that? Can Pakistan say that? No. Not even Saddam (the strongest Arab leader in recent history) could say that

Let's suppose If everything goes back by 40 years, would you still want Iran to patrol Golan Heights?

 

[BigMela2onin]

Use nukes could be haram.

To have nukes as deterrence and never use it, it can never be haram. What is the wrong thing in have a weapon you never use it?

And all countries who have nukes, they never used it, except one.

BTW the first and unique use of nukes it was as response to Pearl Harbor attack.

USA has already attacked Iran navy, so they have already signed for nuclear escalation.

Why would you build a nuke to never use it? The reason Russia gets bombed every day despite having nukes is because putin is too pathetic to ever consider using it. Iran should have nukes and use them any time it sees fit. If you bomb and kill Iranian children, your cities should turn into radioactive ruins as a response. Instead, we have cowardly would-be theologians like khamenei who blocked Iran from having nukes and the means to fight back against the US. Only a jew would claim Muslims having and using nukes is "haram".

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

In a few days IRGC will attack a butt and Orangeman will bomb coastal defenses and few days later he will threaten to bomb their infrastructure.... rinse and repeat.

Orangeman is pursuing two paths to get Iran agree to his demands:

1. He is betting on the naval blockade that he placed on the Iranian ports. He believes the longer he maintains the naval blockade, the more effects it will have on the Iranian economy.

2. He bombs the Iranian coastline and is making threats to ensure the Omani side of the Strait of Hormuz remains open for outbound traffic. The tit-for-that in this option gives him opportunities to negotiate and get the price oil to come down whenever it reaches $100.

It remains to be seen whether his strategy will work, but that is the plan that DJT is pursuing.

 

[ShapurII]

The depreciation of our currency was a result of a (stupid) deliberate decision made by Erdogan himself to win the presidential election, which will likely lead to his removal from office in the next election.

I usually refrain from commenting on other countries, because I am interested only in Iran and our own internal problems; However, one has to note that the devaluation of the Turkish Lira is a direct result of Erdogan's monetary policies.

When the head of the Turkish Central Bank did warn him about the consequences of suppressing the interest rate artificially, Erdogan removed him because of his Islamic dogmatism. Turkey needs to adjust bank interest rate based on inflation rate, like all modern economies do.

The truth is that the devaluation of Iranian Rial is also mostly due to incorrect monetary policies rather than sanctions.

Inflation in Iran is estimated at 60% to 80% officially, while in some places like Tehran it is well above 100%, or even 120%. Yet, the bank interest rate has been fluctuating between 22% to 24% for the past 15 years, leading to people investing their large sums of money elsewhere, particularly in sectors like housing, cryptocurrencies and gold. This has led to uncontrolled liquidity in major sectors that affect the price of necessity goods and loss of capital from smaller markets which is the primary reason for the explosive devaluation of the Iranian Rial while we're in a recession!

Even after the war started, the Ayatollah regime failed to set new monetary policies. In this situation, if I were the President or the Head of the Central Bank, I would immediately increase the interest rate to 60% and divert the liquidity towards agriculture, livestock farmers, our armed forces and high-tech industries. We should prioritize food, rent control and weapons for now and forget about GDP growth until the war is over.

The economy is down the toilet already. People are getting bankrupt, the private sector can hardly pay its employees minimum wage which is about $100 per month now, millions of people have been fired from their jobs, and our stock market has been underperforming even against annual inflation in the last decade or so. There's no reason for this uncontrolled liquidity in Iran. Iran's stupid monetary policies has caused the devaluation of Rial by 75% against the USD in less than 2 years. This is insane and will have catastrophic results if it doesn't change.

 

[MS Sandhu]

Orangeman is pursuing two paths to get Iran agree to his demands:

1. He is betting on the naval blockade that he placed on the Iranian ports. He believes the longer he maintains the naval blockade, the more effects it will have on the Iranian economy.

2. He bombs the Iranian coastline and is making threats to ensure the Omani side of the Strait of Hormuz remains open for outbound traffic. The tit-for-that in this option gives him opportunities to negotiate and get the price oil to come down whenever it reaches $100.

It remains to be seen whether his strategy will work, but that is the plan that DJT is pursuing.

It would be foolish to let the oil flow for America because as soon as Trump fills his stomach, he will be back to another month of bombing.

 

[Oracle]

I am afraid If peace talk fail this time ( and it will) USA will attack Iran and in retaliation Iran wil destroy Arab facilities as well as USA Israel where they dont have much weapos left to decent.

Then no one can save Iran from tactical nukes and Arab nations will remain silent on it.

 

[ShapurII]

Then no one can save Iran from tactical nukes and Arab nations will remain silent on it.

I didn't know Arabs were our saviors and were so vocal about our safety and security. Thanks for the best joke of the day.

 

[BHAN85]

Why would you build a nuke to never use it? The reason Russia gets bombed every day despite having nukes is because putin is too pathetic to ever consider using it. Iran should have nukes and use them any time it sees fit. If you bomb and kill Iranian children, your cities should turn into radioactive ruins as a response. Instead, we have cowardly would-be theologians like khamenei who blocked Iran from having nukes and the means to fight back against the US. Only a jew would claim Muslims having and using nukes is "haram".

Deterrence, if you had had nukes, you wouldn't have been attacked in first place.

Nukes are always change enemy plans, even in Russia getting pounded by the West, Russia without nukes, it wouldnt exist now.

You can develop one thousand nukes and do all the fatwas you want to never use it, enemy wont believe fatwas and it will be useful as deterrence anyway.

 

[tsunset]

Iran needs to steal and extort money from anyone it can besides friendly countries

Steal every penny they have whether by doing piracy or theft it doesn't matter, Iran needs that money more than them

Its ethical theft and extortion

 

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[tsunset]

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This war is an infinite loop

 

[Falcon29]

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He is lying lol

What does that even mean? WW2 was not a shock and awe war, and that could mean anything. Basically largest scale US operations since 2001 war and 2003 on Iraq and Afghanistan, which he's not gonna match and unable to with current level of deployment in the region.

Not sure why he does this stuff weekly but administration in background is advising longer term economic pressure + decreasing importance of SOH by trying to add alternatives and trying to make them viable , which remains to be seen if can be done and would be long term

 

[Falcon29]

It's not a guarantee Iran could disable critical infrastructure across the region, particularly in Israel it's very unlikely.

US and Israel could attack many missile sites and launchers in one night and maybe won't defend Saudis and Gulf much as Israel wants to net exporter of gas in region and economic/tech powerhouse among other things.

It also could force US into a ground mobilization or it just abandons Saudis and Gulf nations after such a move. This is likely why US and Israel won't yet proceed with such a strike on Iran. They're unsure if they want scenario or not as Saudi family and Gulf allies are familiar and whatever comes out of power vacuum in Arabian peninsula is very unpredictable because it's unlike North African nations or Levant nations. It's much more tribal and tribes will seize power as opposed to familiar royal families.

 

[Falcon29]

IRGC would make sense to keep foot on gas. They're not really attacking neighbors infrastructure but paralyzing the straits which works to their favor and if they want more rapid results they could up the ante to have oil prices back to over $100 a barrel and keep it steady there for weeks/months then pressure will mount. However if USA and Russia are replacing Arab share of market or taking it and selling at high prices they may like that status quo.