Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Immortals said:
Does this look like the “best western technology” to you?

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For comparison, this is a V-1 cruise missile from 85 years ago

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Are you saying Iran cannot do what Germans or Ukrainians can do in war time?
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This was the beast that hit the Iranian freighter in the Caspian and demolished it!

Its huge this flamingo with a massive 1000lb warhead.
 
ChineseTiger1986 said:
We never truly understand why Iran didn't go nuclear in the last decade with full of window of opportunities.
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Khamenai. The nuclear program was really just a hedge against Saddam. Once he fell there was not a need for a nuclear weapons program.

Also Iran assumed that U.S. could never sanction Iranian oil or put true economic pressure on Iran because the west was too dependent on Mideast oil. They couldn’t foresee fracking technology.

As I said multiple times, Iran needed a leader like Mao or Khomeini that truly wanted to stand up to Western imperialism and instead got a Gorbachev whose heart really wasn’t in conflict or fighting kinetic wars.

As I said, Iran was its own worst enemy with its self sabotage. Until Iran gets a true leader in power (Mojtaba is not that leader) then Iran can never be truly great. You need the type of leader that rebuilds the system and carries respect and admiration.
 
Lulldapull said:
This was the beast that hit the Iranian freighter in the Caspian and demolished it!

Its huge this flamingo with a huge 1000lb warhead.
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Iran has a 500kg anti ship missile called the Ra’ad based on the silkworm from Soviet days. Like I said most Iranian CMs are based on Chinese or Soviet Union stuff from decades ago.

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Its most modern cruise missile family is ironically based on the Kh-55 that Iran procured from……Ukraine in the 90’s
 
Immortals said:
Khamenai. The nuclear program was really just a hedge against Saddam. Once he fell there was not a need for a nuclear weapons program.

Also Iran assumed that U.S. could never sanction Iranian oil or put true economic pressure on Iran. They couldn’t foresee fracking technology.

As I said multiple times, Iran needed a leader like Mao or Khomeini that truly wanted to stand up to Western imperialism and instead got a Gorbachev whose heart really wasn’t in conflict or fighting kinetic wars.

As I said, Iran was its own worst enemy with its self sabotage. Until Iran gets a true leader in power (Mojtaba is not that leader) then Iran can never be truly great. You need the type of leader that rebuilds the system and carries respect and admiration.
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Maybe the true hardline leader could come from the young officials within the IRGC.
 
ChineseTiger1986 said:
Maybe the true hardline leader could come from the young officials within the IRGC.
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In Iran if you get too popular or powerful you get Julius Ceaser’d by a rival faction or someone leaks your location to the Mossad.

It’s truly a mafia society. Trying to raise thru the ranks is very dangerous. All the hardline commanders died in Iraq/Syria/Lebanon fighting ISIS and Zionists. The ones that stayed behind inside Iran were the pencil pushers.

The closest thing Iran had to a true leader was Solemani and his love for martyrdom and being on front lines caught up to him.
 
Irans cruise missile attacks have barely been covered in any study let alone reports. And this is despite hundreds or thousands been fired as of today against both Israel and US targets in the ME theater.

Only somebody like Hack Hook could've done some research and presented it here or Amir......sadly both are off line now and we hardly get any information for research.
 
Immortals said:
In Iran if you get too popular or powerful you get Julius Ceaser’d by a rival faction or someone leaks your location to the Mossad.

It’s truly a mafia society. Trying to raise thru the ranks is very dangerous. All the hardline commanders died in Iraq/Syria/Lebanon fighting ISIS and Zionists. The ones that stayed behind inside Iran were the pencil pushers.

The closest thing Iran had to a true leader was Solemani and his love for martyrdom and being on front lines caught up to him.
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That's why sometimes the great purge becomes inevitable.

However, Iran is now facing powerful external enemy during the live wartime, and doing excessive internal purge might cause less stability.
 
Lulldapull said:
Irans cruise missile attacks have barely been covered in any study let alone reports. And this is despite hundreds or thousands been fired as of today against both Israel and US targets in the ME theater.
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They were covered plenty because they were given to Houthi’s and used against Red Sea shipping. Despite sometimes firing 10 or 20 CMs at a time, directly at US warships they just get shot down by the U.S. navy who had ample time to react to these sub sonic threats.

I tried to tell people here that Iranian CMs were old and not lethal against a first tier navy like the U.S. I suggested Iran needed an entire overhaul with new families introduced including supersonic CMs . But the copium on this board was so bad that users would say that Houthi’s got the “downgraded” stuff and Iran kept the “good elite missiles” for itself for war time and would suprise the U.S.

Looks like we know who was right in the end.
 
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Immortals said:
They were covered plenty because they were given to Houthi’s and used against Red Sea shipping. Despite sometimes firing 10 or 20 CMs at a time, directly at US warships they just get shot down by the U.S. navy who had ample time to react to these sub sonic threats.

I tried to tell people here that Iranian CMs were old and not lethal against a first tier navy like the U.S. I suggested Iran needed an entire overhaul with new families introduced including supersonic CMs . But the copium on this board was so bad that users would say that Houthi’s got the “downgraded” stuff and Iran kept the “good elite missiles” for itself for war time and would suprise the U.S.

Looks like we know who was right in the end.
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Tens of thousands CMs produced by Iran and there is just no record of their use during brief but intense periods of combat?

@Persian Gulf

There's gotta be some record news on their substantial use during the last good decade or so of near open warfare.

What the hell happened to hack hook? he generally used to keep good account/ record of various Iranian weaponry?
 
Iran is filled with these morons like Zarif (western worshippers), in this clip the supreme leader is saying someone needs to educate him on our capabilities after Zarif was caught in the past saying that Iran’s entire defense capability could be destroyed by one American bomb. Basically saying America has super weapons that can overwhelm Iranian firepower.

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The deputy of Zarif (former lead negotiator in Obama era) was Aragachi, who is the FM and lead negotiator for Iran now.
 
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