AJK govt bans Joint Awami Action Committee, notification issued

Some really bad publicity for Asim Munir and his goons from these events.


Now world will consider Pakistan the bad guy in Kashmir as memories of insurgency in IoK are long forgotten.
 
off topic but if someone has a relative who was in a high ranking post in the army kindly ask them that what was with army love with fanatic mullahs this is one particular question of which i have not been able to find an answer to this day
 
Some really bad publicity for Asim Munir and his goons from these events.


Now world will consider Pakistan the bad guy in Kashmir as memories of insurgency in IoK are long forgotten.

It's the bbc. The SAME bbc who claimed that Iraq had WMD that could destroy europe in 30 mins. Even in the uk people have stopped believing the bbc. bbc is a pro-zionist/pro-indian news outlet.
 
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These kind of things happen between Palestine and Israel Palestinians get bombed slaughtered and put under Blockade
 
Some really bad publicity for Asim Munir and his goons from these events.


Now world will consider Pakistan the bad guy in Kashmir as memories of insurgency in IoK are long forgotten.
Come on mate. You're way smarter than this. BBC??

You need only look at the severe copenomics at play by hindutva editors who think this nomenclature "PAK" for Pakistan administered Kashmir will actually find credence in any official capacity. Never heard such embarrassing garbage in my life.

BBC and AJ, due to embedded hindutva concerns, are quite DESPERATE to invert the realities of Indian occupied Kashmir and Azad Kashmir.

Caroline Davies is herself a cheap shill for ZHABBC (zio-hindutva administered BBC).

Just follow the BBC "South Asia team", which is 99% you know who, for a short period to ascertain their loyalties. They spend all their time airbrushing and "explaining because misunderstanding needs simple rectifying saar!" the faults of Hindustan for the pleasure of a certain group of licence payers.

Even when the deaths of climbers on Broad Peak was being followed, the Indian contingent were desperate to point out "Pakistan administered Gilgit-Baltistan" for effing days on end like the halfwits they are instead of getting on with reporting ground realities. Finally a Nepali reporter wrote an article that simply stated "Pakistan" and ignored the garbage spouted by the Indian overwatch.

Some vile ex-NDTV filth Adwaidh Rajan has just landed a sports posting at BBC and has immediately started humiliating himself with garbage about how wonderful IPL ownership of Hundred cricket franchises is "for the game of cricket". White people are immediately humiliating this man in the comments for his bile inducing loyalty to the country of his origin rather than that which employs him - why can't Pakistanis see the wood from the trees when it comes to BBC reportage? They have one default position. Any deviation from that is worth mentioning certainly, but this par for the course tripe??

Really sorry for the OT rambling but folks need to figure out why certain agencies use certain language based on the wider scheme at play.
 
off topic but if someone has a relative who was in a high ranking post in the army kindly ask them that what was with army love with fanatic mullahs this is one particular question of which i have not been able to find an answer to this day
Very simple, Why does Usa, France Saudia, Qatar and others have love for fanatics, its because if you can control them they can be an asset, be loyal allies who can do your dirty work, infact it is they who started this and funded this ideology.
 
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Some really bad publicity for Asim Munir and his goons from these events.


Now world will consider Pakistan the bad guy in Kashmir as memories of insurgency in IoK are long forgotten.
Now they are pulling out colonial rules to restrict foreign media inside Islamabad, Karachi and Lahore. It will prove counterproductive as it will just focus even more attention on what they are trying to hide. In any case, it is very difficult to hide the truth in this age of social media.
 
Come on mate. You're way smarter than this. BBC??

You need only look at the severe copenomics at play by hindutva editors who think this nomenclature "PAK" for Pakistan administered Kashmir will actually find credence in any official capacity. Never heard such embarrassing garbage in my life.

BBC and AJ, due to embedded hindutva concerns, are quite DESPERATE to invert the realities of Indian occupied Kashmir and Azad Kashmir.

Caroline Davies is herself a cheap shill for ZHABBC (zio-hindutva administered BBC).

Just follow the BBC "South Asia team", which is 99% you know who, for a short period to ascertain their loyalties. They spend all their time airbrushing and "explaining because misunderstanding needs simple rectifying saar!" the faults of Hindustan for the pleasure of a certain group of licence payers.

Even when the deaths of climbers on Broad Peak was being followed, the Indian contingent were desperate to point out "Pakistan administered Gilgit-Baltistan" for effing days on end like the halfwits they are instead of getting on with reporting ground realities. Finally a Nepali reporter wrote an article that simply stated "Pakistan" and ignored the garbage spouted by the Indian overwatch.

Some vile ex-NDTV filth Adwaidh Rajan has just landed a sports posting at BBC and has immediately started humiliating himself with garbage about how wonderful IPL ownership of Hundred cricket franchises is "for the game of cricket". White people are immediately humiliating this man in the comments for his bile inducing loyalty to the country of his origin rather than that which employs him - why can't Pakistanis see the wood from the trees when it comes to BBC reportage? They have one default position. Any deviation from that is worth mentioning certainly, but this par for the course tripe??

Really sorry for the OT rambling but folks need to figure out why certain agencies use certain language based on the wider scheme at play.


You point out the routine Indian disinformation campaigns against Pakistan, that part is real........ But leave the rest of the framing aside for a second, it is doing your argument no favours, and answer the simple question:

Did you actually watch the 2 minute clip?

Because I did...... The tone is neutral..... The presenter lays out both sides...... And at the end the BBC states plainly that on the day they were present, no firing by security forces was recorded, and that security personnel have also died...... That is not an inversion of reality..... That is a balanced report that includes the very facts you would want included..... You are swinging hard at a piece that did not say what you are angry about.....

Which brings us to the part that actually matters..... What do you believe actually happened or is happening? That no civilians were killed at all? That there is no communications or internet blackout in AJK right now? The security forces are not using excessive unwarranted force against unarmed protestors? ... No one is defending JAAC here or anyone who picks up arms against the state, here we are talking about ordinary citizens doing unarmed protests for what they believe are their rights...

Defending the state by pretending the deaths and the blackout do not exist is not patriotism....... Brushing it all under the carpet in the name of patriotism is the most unpatriotic thing to do....
 
You point out the routine Indian disinformation campaigns against Pakistan, that part is real........ But leave the rest of the framing aside for a second, it is doing your argument no favours, and answer the simple question:

Did you actually watch the 2 minute clip?

Because I did...... The tone is neutral..... The presenter lays out both sides...... And at the end the BBC states plainly that on the day they were present, no firing by security forces was recorded, and that security personnel have also died...... That is not an inversion of reality..... That is a balanced report that includes the very facts you would want included..... You are swinging hard at a piece that did not say what you are angry about.....

Which brings us to the part that actually matters..... What do you believe actually happened or is happening? That no civilians were killed at all? That there is no communications or internet blackout in AJK right now? The security forces are not using excessive unwarranted force against unarmed protestors? ... No one is defending JAAC here or anyone who picks up arms against the state, here we are talking about ordinary citizens doing unarmed protests for what they believe are their rights...

Defending the state by pretending the deaths and the blackout do not exist is not patriotism....... Brushing it all under the carpet in the name of patriotism is the most unpatriotic thing to do....
I watch all the available BBC media and scrutinise it rigorously. I have seen this clip also. I observe the quiet "updates" made to reports an hour after release, 2 hours after release, a day after release, all in order to keep the most important "stakeholders" happy. I watch this process unfold live in front of my eyes.

In the past, I would document such changes rigorously and write pages of text to their complaints departments demanding equivalent treatment in line with the law and internationally accepted definitions.

I could happily bore you to death with the blatant discrepancies and double standards deployed by the BBC editorial team when it comes to Pakistan.

That is mostly off topic and beyond the scope of this thread.

Nevertheless, this "reporting ecosystem" all does contribute to the defining journalistic standards of a media organisation. These tend to be the reasons why we trust certain media as truly impartial while we question other media. To be more specific, we assume a "default starting point" for a given media house along the available narrative spectrum and if that media house deviates from that starting point, we can infer the reasons that might explain said deviation.

My observations hitherto have placed BBC and AJ at a very similar default starting position regarding Pakistani interests, both influenced by a clandestine Delhi centric influence, to varying degrees.

How are perceptions modified by media? Well.....The specific content of any report matters but the headline also matters, the wording matters, the thumbnail matters, the look on the face of the reporter in the screen grab matters, the very fact that this is being reported at all as some ghastly headline news in the South Asia section also matters. Why is this reported and other episodes around the world and in our neighbourhood summarily ignored?

Which brings me neatly back to a comment I made to @Owaiz on a different thread -

Truth in journalism is not solely the reporting of the truth of any matter, but must encompass reporting of the WHOLE truth, reporting of NOTHING BUT THE truth, and a concerted REFUSAL TO OMIT other relevant truths pertinent to said matter. And that's all assuming that these various components of truth are free from bias or manipulation in the first place.

BBC and AJ fail this standard. Caroline Davies is a great example of why.

I can certainly name you more trustworthy journalists, whose opinion, even while wearing a BBC lanyard, I would sooner trust. If the ever sceptical (and cynical to a fault!) Jeremy Bowen were deployed to south Asia, free from hindustani editorial "oversight" I assure you, BBC's reputation would improve overnight in my eyes at least.
 

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