AJK govt bans Joint Awami Action Committee, notification issued

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

allow bbc to report freely then if they have no viewership and you have nothing to hide.

With the past history of the bbc, can you HONESTLY believe them when they say they are not allowed to report freely? If they are reporting freely then how can you be sure that they will report accurately and fairly when you consider the HUGE number of lies they have historically told going back many decades.

The bbc is a pro-zionist and pro-hindutva media organisation. Can they be trusted to have unbiased reporting with regards to Pakistan?

 

[Distant_Observer]

With the past history of the bbc, can you HONESTLY believe them when they say they are not allowed to report freely? If they are reporting freely then how can you be sure that they will report accurately and fairly when you consider the HUGE number of lies they have historically told going back many decades.

The bbc is a pro-zionist and pro-hindutva media organisation. Can they be trusted to have unbiased reporting with regards to Pakistan?

Who remembers the BBC interrogating the Pakistani ambassador after India's attack in which many Pakistani civilians died with no remorse?

F**k them. Ban BBC, ban AJ, ban them all. AJ took the piss, when was the last time Qatar held elections? Who are you to point fingers, don't interefere in our democratic process.

We don't need their selective yellow journalism.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Who remembers the BBC interrogating the Pakistani ambassador after India's attack in which many Pakistani civilians died with no remorse?

F**k them. Ban BBC, ban AJ, ban them all. AJ took the piss, when was the last time Qatar held elections? Who are you to point fingers, don't interefere in our democratic process.

We don't need their selective yellow journalism.

To add, the 1.3 million dead Iraqis due to the american/nato invasion of Iraq in March 2003. The lies and propaganda the bbc peddled was used to justify this genocide of the Iraqis which was EVEN WORST than the current Gaza genocide of the Palestinians. NO-ONE was EVER held accountable or responsible for this. It's so obvious how Islamaphobic, anti-Pakistani and anti-Muslim the bbc are and have always been. What is shocking however is the number of Pakistanis/Muslims that still trust the bbc as an honest, valid, serious and trustworthy news source.

PS As a rule of thumb, whenever someone belonging to a race or community that is racist, colonialist and is traditionally anti-Pakistani/anti-Muslim says ANYTHING about Pakistanis, Muslims, Islam, Muslim countries and issues affecting Muslims, SWITCH OFF and IGNORE them. Because it is highly likely what they say or believe is biased, racist and extreme propaganda. NEVER EVER listen to these hypocrites about what they say about morality, humanity and being a good person. These hypocrites CAN NEVER be trusted or believed.

 

[Goenitz]

With the past history of the bbc, can you HONESTLY believe them when they say they are not allowed to report freely? If they are reporting freely then how can you be sure that they will report accurately and fairly when you consider the HUGE number of lies they have historically told going back many decades.

The bbc is a pro-zionist and pro-hindutva media organisation. Can they be trusted to have unbiased reporting with regards to Pakistan?

We all know all media outlets are pro-govt or some party.
Not only that, the media blacked out the Gaza genocide initially, or printed ambiguous and misleading headlines. The way they reported on Megan vs Kate's pregnancy also showed their bias. You can also include Ukr vs Russia or Iran vs US reporting.

Therefore, if the media is publishing these things, it means there is pressure from British MPs and the government to report that. Otherwise, they tried their best to hide the 2024 election report.

Lastly, the BBC essentially has no incentive to be pro or anti-Islamabad as such, and sometimes they report impartially to remain in journalism. Also, it is a domestic issue and not Pak vs India. Hence, I think it can be considered objective reporting. One can counter it with facts, but banning it makes them credible for this situation.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

We all know all media outlets are pro-govt or some party.
Not only that, the media blacked out the Gaza genocide initially, or printed ambiguous and misleading headlines. The way they reported on Megan vs Kate's pregnancy also showed their bias. You can also include Ukr vs Russia or Iran vs US reporting.

Therefore, if the media is publishing these things, it means there is pressure from British MPs and the government to report that. Otherwise, they tried their best to hide the 2024 election report.

Lastly, the BBC essentially has no incentive to be pro or anti-Islamabad as such, and sometimes they report impartially to remain in journalism. Also, it is a domestic issue and not Pak vs India. Hence, I think it can be considered objective reporting. One can counter it with facts, but banning it makes them credible for this situation.

I don't know if you are aware or not but the bbc has been heavily infiltrated by zionists and uk indian hindutva scumbags so YES they DO have an incentive to be anti-Pakistani.

 

[Badmash Jagga]

Al jazeera caught pants down while reporting fake new on AJK.


Yellow journalism, funded by R&AW and MOSSAD.

@Panzerkiel @RescueRanger

 

[Goenitz]

I don't know if you are aware or not but the bbc has been heavily infiltrated by zionists and uk indian hindutva scumbags so YES they DO have an incentive to be anti-Pakistani.

it can be..
My main point was it can be objective sometimes.
It is a domestic issue, so whether they support the govt or the public, it is both pro and anti-Pakistan, like holding the election observer's report (pro for one but anti for the other).
Also, this assignment could be pushed by British-Pakistani MPs (besides Indian origin journalists and zionists).

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

it can be..
My main point was it can be objective sometimes.
It is a domestic issue, so whether they support the govt or the public, it is both pro and anti-Pakistan, like holding the election observer's report (pro for one but anti for the other).
Also, this assignment could be pushed by British-Pakistani MPs (besides Indian origin journalists and zionists).

It CAN'T be pushed by any Pakistani or Muslim MPs for unbiased reporting. These guys are following a SEVERE anti-Pakistani and anti-Muslism agenda that is backed by the world's billionaires and trillionaires like elon musk and co. The bbc have supported and justified the Gaza genocide of the Palestinians. Do YOU HONESTLY believe that they will report fairly, accurately and truthfully regarding Pakistan?..........

 

[Owaiz]

I don't know if you are aware or not but the bbc has been heavily infiltrated by zionists and uk indian hindutva scumbags so YES they DO have an incentive to be anti-Pakistani.

So, why not allow pro-Pakistani journalists to go to AJK and report the truth? Even lifaafi journalists have not been allowed to go there to report from the ground.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

So, why not allow pro-Pakistani journalists to go to AJK and report the truth? Even lifaafi journalists have not been allowed to go there to report from the ground.

AGREED. I'm not denying that there is some heavy handed tactics being used in Kashmir and that ALL SIDES need to sit and talk with each other in order to resolve this matter satisfactorily. What I'm TOTALLY against is using pro-zionist, pro-hindutva, anti-Islamic, anti-Pakistani biased and unreliable news media to prove allegations made against the Pakistani state and army. YES, by all MEANS send an independent PRO-Pakistani journalist to investigate the claims made but NEVER EVER get our enemies and those who wish for our genocide involved.

 

[Distant_Observer]

To add, the 1.3 million dead Iraqis due to the american/nato invasion of Iraq in March 2003. The lies and propaganda the bbc peddled was used to justify this genocide of the Iraqis which was EVEN WORST than the current Gaza genocide of the Palestinians. NO-ONE was EVER held accountable or responsible for this. It's so obvious how Islamaphobic, anti-Pakistani and anti-Muslim the bbc are and have always been. What is shocking however is the number of Pakistanis/Muslims that still trust the bbc as an honest, valid, serious and trustworthy news source.

PS As a rule of thumb, whenever someone belonging to a race or community that is racist, colonialist and is traditionally anti-Pakistani/anti-Muslim says ANYTHING about Pakistanis, Muslims, Islam, Muslim countries and issues affecting Muslims, SWITCH OFF and IGNORE them. Because it is highly likely what they say or believe is biased, racist and extreme propaganda. NEVER EVER listen to these hypocrites about what they say about morality, humanity and being a good person. These hypocrites CAN NEVER be trusted or believed.

If Pakistan falls our fate will be worse than that of Palestinians and Iraqis.

Our ethnonats think they can kiss some Indian or Afghani ass and they will be left alone to rule their little pathetic kingdoms. No my friends, you are getting conquered and they will take everything.

Pakistan is the only thing protecting you ungrateful namak harams.

Circling back to bias reporting, post NATO withdrawl was a classic example. Constant blame game on Pakistan during the war. After it finished BBC via Indian journalists starting producing articles favouring the taliban over Pakistan. Ooooo Pakistan caused some collateral, big f**king deal. This duplicity doesn't go unnoticed.

 

[M. Sarmad]

Guys, this thread is not about the credibility (or the lack thereof) of BBC and AJ...... there are plenty of other threads for that, make a new one even...... turning this AJK thread into a media bias thread helps no one and just derails it dragging it away from what actually matters...


As for the situation itself, forget the western media entirely...... The UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, Amnesty, and our own Human Rights Commission of Pakistan have all confirmed dozens of deaths in the run up to the Kashmir elections ..... same bodies have flagged the internet blackout and the mass arrests....... This is not a BBC invention.... it is the UN and our own HRCP saying it....


We mishandled this, badly......... we f'd up..... that is the point..... our detractors having a field day off it is real, but secondary..... the mishandling came first, and it is what handed them the story..... Right now we should be more concerned about this mishandling of the situation, and its long term consequences, both locally and abroad, rather than calling out BBC or AJ on their bias

 

[hussain0216]

allow bbc to report freely then if they have no viewership and you have nothing to hide.

Might as well let Zionists report from Pakistan then

All these Western media organizations have the same plan, to propagate propaganda victimhood and ethnocentrism

Where were they went Gaza was being attacked


All ethnocentrism had to be challenged in Pakistan, no more blackmail

 

[M. Sarmad]

I don't disagree with your fundamental criticisms at all. The government has clearly performed poorly in this sequence of events.

The outstanding questions of relevance are:

1. Is there any evidence of "significant" vote rigging (I have, sadly, come to accept some manipulations in all democratic processes - even in UK, complaints are rife during polls of manipulation and breaking of the rules - so was there any rigging that would be enough to alter outcomes?).

2. Is voter turnout sufficient to claim the election results to be adequately reflective?

Personally, on the information I have seen, I have to accept that PML-N have won a reasonably representative and fair election here (and I effing loathe PMLN with all my heart!).

You ask the 2 right questions, and the honest answer to both is:....... we cannot know.... That is the problem.


The AJK Election Commission promised full access to observers and international media........ What we got instead was a 50 plus day internet blackout that neutral monitors say made verification impossible

And now new rules require foreign journalists to get government permission to report anywhere outside Islamabad, Lahore and Karachi..... AJK needs an NOC, and accreditation can be pulled for coverage deemed against the ideology or security of Pakistan.... so thats a dead end now


So was there outcome changing rigging? Was turnout representative? Nobody can say, because the state switched off the internet and put reporting on a leash.......... A country ranked 152nd of 180 on press freedom, rated "authoritarian" on the Democracy Index and only "partly free" by Freedom House, that promises observers and then gates the whole region behind permissions, has already lost the credibility, guilty or not.....


As for PMLN...... the pattern needs none..... Since 1974, AJK elects whoever runs Islamabad...... PPP when PPP held the centre, Muslim Conference under Musharraf, PMLN in 2016, PTI in 2021, PMLN now....... dependency more than electoral fraud... AJK's funds and jobs run through Islamabad, so it votes for whoever holds the tap..... That is not a free mandate. It is an electorate voting for its lifeline.

JAAC's original demands included the much needed electoral reforms but the way things have gone, and looking at how the state has handled a genuine demand, I don't see much hope....

 

[hussain0216]

If Pakistan falls our fate will be worse than that of Palestinians and Iraqis.

Our ethnonats think they can kiss some Indian or Afghani ass and they will be left alone to rule their little pathetic kingdoms. No my friends, you are getting conquered and they will take everything.

Pakistan is the only thing protecting you ungrateful namak harams.

Circling back to bias reporting, post NATO withdrawl was a classic example. Constant blame game on Pakistan during the war. After it finished BBC via Indian journalists starting producing articles favouring the taliban over Pakistan. Ooooo Pakistan caused some collateral, big f**king deal. This duplicity doesn't go unnoticed.

EXACTLY THIS %

Pakistan is vital for us and the region

All these ethnic lannats care about is their tiny little world and they willing to get support from every Zionist or Hindu or afghan harami so the can create fassad just so their local chaudary, sardar or chief can become leader on the back of promises of mountains of Gold


SHOW THEM NO MERCY for this jahilat

I am incensed why Pakistan is not far far more harsher, why Pakistan has not automatically banned all entry from any foreign protesters against Pakistan

Why we are not picking up more enemies from across the country

We have finally started kicking out afghans and giving long sentences to people and we need to continue



Too much is on the line to fall for this liberal bullshit