Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Panzerkiel]

- and as far the "no aircraft" crossed each other's border - that has not been established and on the days of the conflict where a lot of us were in consternation -

What if they were talking about International Border and not the WB or LOC....both sides do have a history of hiding behind such lingo-related things....

I mean, no one has ever mentioned that we poured alot of artillery fire (medium and heavy) across International Border (mind u, not WB or LOC only....).....

 

[Panzerkiel]

Thukai tu huwi no doubt, but we were unable to present satellite images to the world which gave a chance to India for face saving

I think we probably wanted, and still want, to downplay what really went down...people in the right circles and the indians themselves, are very clear on what happened to them....

 

[Master Chief]

You forgot something.

There was a terrorist attack at the Red Fort metro station in New Delhi, killing 13 to 15 people, few months after the conflict. Indians couldn't do the usual blaming of Pakistan. Why? Indians know it will start losing more planes again if it retaliates.

According to multiple esteemed forum sources, India no longer even seeks territorial expansion into Pakistani administered lands. Much has changed since Sindoor.

 

[Starlord]

I think we probably wanted, and still want, to downplay what really went down...people in the right circles and the indians themselves, are very clear on what happened to them....

This tactic of downplaying does have a downside to it, Indians understand this now that they can control the escalation ladder, and attack Pakistan conventionally after any/every attack on its soil, We have seen a steady but consistent change in Indian posture since 2016, from rthe famous "Surgical Strike", to cross border firing, from Balakot strikes to large scale Operation sindoor, each time Indian did something more intensity and more consequence, they know that Pakistan will never preemtively attack India as a smaller nation, so they will always control the escalation ladder, if things are going their way, they will continue and its things are not going their way, they will ask for ceasefire but for the internal audiance they will deny.

As for Pakistan, whether we do good or bad, we will stop when the enemy wants us to stop, either by begging for ceasefire or just a DGMO call. We could've end this whole cycle by doing a much larger damage and providing every evidence we have to international media, drawing a clear red line, establish a deterrance, but instead now we have this talwaar on our heads that whenever there is a attack in India we will have fear of war over Pakistan.