Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Watandar]

Seems that the captain/ lead pilot of that a/c had even asked permission to take off again (or perhaps to move to another location at Bholari to avoid this very scenario) but it was denied stating that the cease fire had come into effect. God damn those slimy Hindu bastards.

Indians had done the same after Kargil ceasefire by downing that Atlantique. They never change and fault is on the Pakistani high command for thinking Indians would behave differently this time.

 

[White Privilege]

Indians had done the same after Kargil ceasefire by downing that Atlantique. They never change and fault is on the Pakistani high command for thinking Indians would behave differently this time.

The only good Indian is a defeated, battered and slouched over one.....

 

[TsAr]

1. It was taken at face value because Pakistan had called off its next vectors for employment precisely because Indians agreed to. So this was them being dishonorable but since that call off was coordinated by your friends and allies - you chose the “higher”(read fait accompli) ground and not retaliate to this.

2. Yes, but the hangar was in use and Saab dispersed on and off - reportedly someone missed the memo that said to move the Saab away from there just in case. Pretty sure heads have rolled - just not publicly.

3. All procedures are follow but since you stated pattern tracking the Indians made a good educated guess there - and tie it to my answer in 2.

The AM is exaggerating what happened regarding dive down to run. The Indians launched a LOT of S-400s well outside their engagement envelope against other PAF assets that defended against it. The Saab did do various maneuvers along its race track to adjust against multiple threats while still maintaining coverage but no “dive down” etc that I have heard of.
What is likely is that they got beam on momentarily and fired while other assets were also trying to find gaps to push against targets - then fired against PAF aircraft and in true Indian fashion claimed a fire as a kill.

Considering these are the people who have the tail of a Mig-21FL painted as a Pakistani aircraft standing as gate guard for their base - I would not make much of the IAF officer claims.

The apparent awacs or c130 kill they claim that was made by S400 was over Dinga( near Rahwali). The 40N6 / 40N6E missile was intercepted over the city by our air defenses. I guess a first in the world interception.

 

[PK781]

Indians had done the same after Kargil ceasefire by downing that Atlantique. They never change and fault is on the Pakistani high command for thinking Indians would behave differently this time.

each time their attacks get more and more brazen, because the duffers on our side want medals of honor from america, gulfies etc and always ready to ceasefire for their worldly benefits
this restraint and gifting them off-ramps and ceasefires every time will only get us more severe attacks in future., with our populated cities very vulberable

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Looks like the "litmus test" for the Misak-i Mekka is coming from the Pak-Bharat front. Another round is around the corner. Bharat has stated her "homework". No surprise here, and, hopefully, the Pak Deep State hasn't exhausted it's "box of chocolates", where each candy is wrapped with a surprise beneath it .....

*It's the same cycle since the Riaset-i Medina! The Mushrikin are sent to the battlegrounds to test HIS PLAN and TIMING!! Nauzubillah, Hasha Summe Hasha. For a reason the most recited Sura Al Fatiha ends with "the path of those You have blessed, not of those who have earned [YOUR] ANGER or of those who are astray."....

India Planning Another Misadventure? | What’s Happening Behind the Scenes | GGP Media​

 

[Be dazzled]

No Saab was damaged let alone destroyed. I keep seeing it patrolling daily. Last I saw it was yesterday. Indians are lying out of their teeth.

 

[Be dazzled]

Looks like the "litmus test" for the Misak-i Mekka is coming from the Pak-Bharat front. Another round is around the corner. Bharat has stated her "homework". No surprise here, and, hopefully, the Pak Deep State hasn't exhausted it's "box of chocolates", where each candy is wrapped with a surprise beneath it .....

India Planning Another Misadventure? | What’s Happening Behind the Scenes | GGP Media​

They're preparing for something. There's plenty of movement around south and central Punjab. Could be a bluff but something is cooking.

 

[ACE OF HEARTS]

Indian YouTube channels are claiming tracking multiple Chinese and Turkish military C-130 cargo flights into Pakistan, Nur Khan and Masroor airbase, in the last 3 days.

So Pakistan is preparing for something that is to come ?

 

[I*R*A]

Indian YouTube channels are claiming tracking multiple Chinese and Turkish military C-130 cargo flights into Pakistan, Nur Khan and Masroor airbase, in the last 3 days.

So Pakistan is preparing for something that is to come ?

"Eagles of Civilization", the China Egypt joint military exercise is happening in Egypt. China is wooing Egypt and trying to impress them with their jets and equipment. They most probably landed in Pakistan for refueling and regular maintenance before heading to Egypt. Just a guess.

 

[flyingorca]

Sorry I thought I would spice things up like Indians.

 

[flyingorca]

Indian YouTube channels are claiming tracking multiple Chinese and Turkish military C-130 cargo flights into Pakistan, Nur Khan and Masroor airbase, in the last 3 days.

So Pakistan is preparing for something that is to come ?

Ever since Indians discovered flightradar24, they all now think they are defence experts with classified intel.

 

[Salza]

Indian Bahramos getting intercepted over Raffique air base. I have not seen this clip before. Can any one confirm this ?

 

[Panzerkiel]

So regarding the Bholari strike, I had opined about three distinct possibilities here:

Post in thread 'PAF J-10CE News Updates and Discussions part ll'

May 16, 2026

Why a AWAC was Stationed so near the enemy Border- and why AIR DEFENCE failed here - what’s lecture for future?

The way SAAB2000 was targeted, there could be one of the three possibilities:

1. Indians had been tracking that particular a/c and exactly knew where it landed prior to the strike. There was this confusion regarding the cessation of hostilities and PAF was caught off guard. The enemy could track the plane right up to the hanger where it was parked, either through the almost real time satellite imagery from their own birds in the space or guessed the parking location once...

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After listening to this certain AM Kapoor here:

it seems that it was a case of an educated guess hitting its mark i.e. the first possibility I tried to hint on.

Earlier in the same podcast, the AM rightfully did not accept the claim for the much propagandized SAAB2000 kill by the S400. While it is true that the missile was launched at the 3 Sqn guys flying at the very edge of the S400 envelope, they detected the launch well in time and dived down to run. Could have been tricky if the corrective action was taken a bit later.

The point is that according to the Indian AM, they could gather data on and study the PAF AEWC patterns before and during the actual conflict, which lead to the targeting attempt on the particular a/c landing at Bholari.

This makes me intrigued about the following:

1. Its seemed that PAF decision makers took the Indian ceasefire acceptance on the face value. The SAAB2000 was flown into the Bholari while it sits so near (in relative terms) to the border. Given the fluid situation, why such a risky stand down was authorized at that time and location. PAF knew the Brahmos range so why 3 Sqn guys were diverted there.

2. You have redundancies in the infrastructure built to avoid this very scenario. Apparently there was only one hanger and once Indians had tracked the SAB2000 down to the Bholari AFB, they just had to wait for the plane to get inside it and then lob their Brahmoses. Had there been a few more such infrastructures (large hangers) or better, a few larger hardened/underground pens for HVAA, the risk of what happened could have been drastically curtailed.


3. Was the flight profile and EMCON discipline of the SAAB2000 crew really up to the mark. SAAB is a bigger a/c and on the active sensors it would have appeared quite easily. InAF Passive sensors could have picked the emissions from an even longer distance. Shouldn't the EriEye crew have flown low well before coming to land at Bholari and followed a complete electronic silence. Would it have still been detected. Do the Indians even have an OTH radar coverage.

Just to be clear, the real reason of why this Saab was at Bholari is something else. The reason is very simple as well, not complex.....but again, now is not the time to disclose it...it will be done in a short while.

 

[flyingorca]

Just to be clear, the real reason of why this Saab was at Bholari is something else. The reason is very simple as well, not complex.....but again, now is not the time to disclose it...it will be done in a short while.

My theory is that Pak intel found out about indian strike on Bhilari hanger... thats when Sqd leader Usman with his mens rushed to the hanger with tow tractor and started towing the Saab out of the hanger but were unfortunately caught with shrapnels. Thats why his body was intact. Had he been inside the hanger with the aircraft, his body would have been pulverized.

 

[Psyko70]

Indian Bahramos getting intercepted over Raffique air base. I have not seen this clip before. Can any one confirm this ?

There were interception at least 1 in Jacobabad as well. People literally saw missile getting targeted by another missile.