Turkish Naval Programs

[Ravenman]

What do you mean they don't pay taxes?

They are all millionaires.

 

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Our Blue Homeland doctrine will only be succesfull if we use it at also at our crypto-Greeks first.

The whole Turkish west-coast, all the coastal cities with their pearlwhite beaches and heavenblue seas, the Bosporus, the Golden Horn, the Marmara Sea coast and the Prince Islands, all are inhabited by christian and secular crypto-Greeks.

Nodody cares about them
They can vote for anti-ERDOGAN in elections .. nothing else

Their era is over. In the last 25 years, new wealthy Turks supporting president ERDOGAN have emerged in Anatolia

President ERDOGAN broke the political dominance of the old secular establishment, giving conservative Muslims a voice in the economy and state


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Türkiye has become a global powerhouse in the maritime sector, home to roughly 60 highly advanced, private Shipyards

Only one example SEDEF Shipyard is Turkiye's largest private shipyard.
strongly and strategically aligned with President ERDOGAN

-- TCG ANADOLU amphibious assault Ship
-- ISTIF Frigate
also SEDEF Shipyard can build the TF-2000 class Destroyer



btw Crypto Greeks ? Greeks are poor nation
They are crypto Jews and pro-Israel

 

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They are all millionaires.

Even we are a millionaire
My uncle sold his office building for $10 million in Istanbul

Our rich Turks pays 1-2 million Dollars to buy a supercar ( Ferrari , Lambo , Rolls Royce , Bentley , etc )

Millionaires have no power; the real power lies with billionaires like KOC family who is the anti-ERDOGAN


President ERDOGAN cancelled MILGEM tender with RMK Marine ( KOC family )

RMK Marine ( KOC family ) was previously excluded from the MİLGEM - ADA class Corvettes production tender opened for the Turkish Navy.

And the production of the ADA Corvettes was given to the military shipyard.

 

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TF-2000 Destroyer is coming to become the strongest WarShip in Europe


British Type-45 and French HORIZON Destroyers carry 48 x SAMs mixed of ASTER-30 and ASTER-15 .... and 8 x anti-ship Missiles

Turkish TF-2000 to carry 80 x SAMs mixed of SIPER-2 and HISAR-D RF .. and 16 x ATMACA anti-ship Missiles

also 20 x GOKSUR PDMS and 1 x GOKDENIZ 35 mm CIWS also LASER Weapon


TF-2000 will be launched in the end of 2027

The first block of first TF-2000 Destroyer (TCG Kocatepe)


ASELSAN General Manager Ahmet Akyol:
We are building Radars large enough to accommodate 4 SİPER batteries for the TF-2000

That means 48 x SIPER-2 Air Defense Misiles ( 150+ km )

also 32 x HISAR-D RF Air Defense Misiles ( 40+ km )
and 20 x GOKSUR point defence Missiles ( 11 km )

80 out of 96 cells MIDLAS VLS are expected to be entirely dedicated to SIPER and HISAR-D RF air defense Missiles

and 16 x ATMACA anti-ship Missiles

 

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British Type-45 and French HORIZON Destroyers carry 48 x SAMs mixed of ASTER-30 and ASTER-15 .... and 8 x anti-ship Missiles

All of them can easily be upgrade to 64 missiles of the ASTER familly.
Far more if they decide to put CAMM in quad pack.

 

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All of them can easily be upgrade to 64 missiles of the ASTER familly.
Far more if they decide to put CAMM in quad pack.

French HORIZON Destroyer equipped with 48 cells SYLVER VLS
And ASTER-15 Missile can not be quad-pack for SYLVER VLS

CAMM Missile in quad-pack for only American MK-41 VLS
French SYLVER-50 VLS only tri-pack for CAMM Missile

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btw Turkiye is working on quad-pack capability for HISAR Missile
that means in future , TF-2000 Destroyer with 96 cells MIDLAS VLS will be quad pack to carry more HISAR air defense Missile

96 cells VLS .. with quad pack capability
16 cells x 4 HISAR-D = 64 SAMs
48 cells x 1 SIPER = 48 SAMs
16 cells x 1 ATMACA = 16 anti-ship Missiles
16 cells x 1 GEZGIN = 16 land attack Cruise Missiles

total of 112 SAMs and 32 anti-ship/land attack Cruise Missiles
also 20 x GOKSUR PDMS and 1 x GOKDENIZ 35mm CIWS and 1 x LASER Weapon

 

[Aziqbal]

TF-2000 also could have GEZGİN cruise missiles

 

[Ravenman]

Even we are a millionaire
My uncle sold his office building for $10 million in Istanbul

Our rich Turks pays 1-2 million Dollars to buy a supercar ( Ferrari , Lambo , Rolls Royce , Bentley , etc )

Millionaires have no power; the real power lies with billionaires like KOC family who is the anti-ERDOGAN


President ERDOGAN cancelled MILGEM tender with RMK Marine ( KOC family )

RMK Marine ( KOC family ) was previously excluded from the MİLGEM - ADA class Corvettes production tender opened for the Turkish Navy.

And the production of the ADA Corvettes was given to the military shipyard.

There should be a complete reset of the coastal propertyship.

Every house or villa at the Golden Horn and the Bosporus should be checked on the ownership. How did they earned the money or how did they got the property.

Very great possibility that the original inhabitants lost their property to revolutionairy powers during the 1908 coup against Sultan Abdulhamid II and during the First World War.

Before the First World War the normal middleclass whas living at the Bosporus and the Golden Horn. After the war they were replaced by millionaires.

And now, only billonaires and trillionaires are living there.

Historical places and properties heritated from Sultan Mehmed the Conquerer shouldnt be in the hands of Greeks, Armenians and Jews but in thd hands of Turks.

 

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French HORIZON Destroyer equipped with 48 cells SYLVER VLS
And ASTER-15 Missile can not be quad-pack for SYLVER VLS

CAMM Missile in quad-pack for only American MK-41 VLS
French SYLVER-50 VLS only tri-pack for CAMM Missile

At least on the Horizon frigates, there is space available for a 16 missile Sylver block in excess. It has been planned from the start.

There is a plan to adapt Sylver so as to receive CAMM missiles. 4 where there is a single Aster.

 

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At least on the Horizon frigates, there is space available for a 16 missile Sylver block in excess. It has been planned from the start.

HORIZON Destroyer : 48 + ( 16 optional ) cells VLS
TF-2000 Destroyer : 96 cells VLS

The TF-2000 remains the most effective destroyer in Europe in terms of firepower


SAM
Type-45 and HORIZON Destroyers armed with 48 SAMs .. ( without quad pack )
TF-2000 Destroyer armed with 64 SAMs ... ( without quad pack )

Anti-Ship Missile
Type-45 and HORIZON Destroyers armed with 8 x anti-ship Missiles
TF-2000 Destroyer armed with 16 x anti-ship Missiles

Land attack Cruise Missile
Type-45 and HORIZON Destroyers dont have land attack Cruise Missiles
TF-2000 Destroyer armed 16 x GEZGIN land attack Cruise Missiles ( 1.000 km )

PDMS and CIWS
Type-45 and HORIZON Destroyers dont have PDMS and CIWS
TF-2000 Destroyer armed with 20 x GOKSUR PMDS and 1 x GOKDENIZ 35 mm CIWS
Also LASER Weapon


The TF-2000 has significant firepower and sensor advantages over its European rivals, the British Type-45 and the Franco-Italian jointly built HORIZON class Destroyers.

 

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HORIZON Destroyer : 48 + ( 16 optional ) cells VLS
TF-2000 Destroyer : 96 cells VLS

The TF-2000 remains the most effective destroyer in Europe in terms of firepower


SAM
Type-45 and HORIZON Destroyers armed with 48 SAMs .. ( without quad pack )
TF-2000 Destroyer armed with 64 SAMs ... ( without quad pack )

Anti-Ship Missile
Type-45 and HORIZON Destroyers armed with 8 x anti-ship Missiles
TF-2000 Destroyer armed with 16 x anti-ship Missiles

Land attack Cruise Missile
Type-45 and HORIZON Destroyers dont have land attack Cruise Missiles
TF-2000 Destroyer armed 16 x GEZGIN land attack Cruise Missiles ( 1.000 km )

PDMS and CIWS
Type-45 and HORIZON Destroyers dont have PDMS and CIWS
TF-2000 Destroyer armed with 20 x GOKSUR PMDS and 1 x GOKDENIZ 35 mm CIWS
Also LASER Weapon


The TF-2000 has significant firepower and sensor advantages over its European rivals, the British Type-45 and the Franco-Italian jointly built HORIZON class Destroyers.

You are right.
But Horizon & T45 are real, where TF-2000 is a paper project.

And I think that in a near future Italian navy will have 10000 tons cruisers (a choice the french navy has not made).

 

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You are right.
But Horizon & T45 are real, where TF-2000 is a paper project.

You are right , Italian DDX is a paper project

TF-2000 under construction to be launched in the end of 2027

The first steel cutting and construction process for Türkiye's first national Aircraft Carrier (MUGEM) and the TF-2000 Air Defense Destroyer was simultaneously initiated at the Istanbul Shipyard Command in early January 2025.

2025-2027

The Ships are planned to be launched on September 27, 2027 at an incredible speed

And I think that in a near future Italian navy will have 10000 tons cruisers (a choice the french navy has not made).

New Italian Destroyer also has less VLS to compare with the TF-2000 in terms of fire power

Adding more 16-cell VLS quad pack capability ,TF-2000 creates an extra difference of 64 missiles.

Original design with 64 cells VLS .... new concept with 80 cells VLS


Also , Italian DDX Destroyer lack CIWS and PDMS

 

[Death_Zone]

Italian DDX Destroyer lack CIWS

With 3 x 76mm Stradale, it's best thant that !

 

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PDMS

What is that please ?

 

[Pokemonte13]

What is that please ?

Point defence missile system