This officer should be court martialed

[Watandar]

Whatever the circumstances no excuse for this, Army has to show that it is disciplined, as then we will have every major or LtCol thinking he is Marshal Law Administrator.

Fully sympathy for his reasons, but he should have let the police handle it or very least not used a weapon.

Discipline is like a brick wall, you take one small brick out of it, the wall is still standing but weakened overall.

Army officers already behave like they own the country. Why else do Generals repeatedly conduct coups and dismiss elected governments ?? The behavior of the lower ranks with civilians is no different.

I recall in my school days a van with SSG commandos was stopped by police for a traffic violation. The SSG commandos beat the police blue.

 

[Watandar]

Does it look like the colonel ki biwi is being harassed or assaulted here ?

 

[Desprado123]

Does it look like the colonel ki biwi is being harassed or assaulted here ?

Who allowed to put the barrier in front of colleage?

 

[Solomon2]

And in Islam there's no concept of malookiat which is what the current military dictatorship is and neither is there any concept of looting and stealing and being compliant little foot soldiers of global zionism.

Where did this anti-Zionism quip come from?

 

[brazensword]

Lo bhai Uni me ab missing person case aane wale hain

 

[Goenitz]

And in Islam there's no concept of malookiat which is what the current military dictatorship is and neither is there any concept of looting and stealing and being compliant little foot soldiers of global zionism.

Islam encourages group decision-making. Closer to a republic than democracy. It absolutely discourages power grabs or malokiat , but it is not haram.
Its teaching on a household comes closer to malokiat or central power bcz it is a company or organisation.
In routine life, it emphasises decisions (but not against Islam) coming out of a group discussion, implemented by a selected Ameer or Sardar or Senator or similar.
I will not discuss it further as it may violate forum rules.

 

[flyingorca]

No, that’s just an easy way of escaping the actual point. If someone criticizes the military establishment or points out its mistakes, that doesn’t automatically mean he belongs to PTI or supports PTI.

You’re trying to make the person the issue instead of what he actually said. If you think I’m wrong, then pick the points I made, show me where the facts are wrong and provide evidence.

Otherwise, calling someone PTI or using political labels is just a scapegoat to avoid answering the argument itself.

I honestly do not want to debate with ChatGPT. Its waste of time.

 

[user]

As far as I have seen, student protests are all steered by a group of students who misinform the majority into believing they are going for the righteous cause(s) while the reality is completely different.

 

[Watandar]

As far as I have seen, student protests are all steered by a group of students who misinform the majority into believing they are going for the righteous cause(s) while the reality is completely different.

Here is the reality

 

[Qureshi]

I honestly do not want to debate with ChatGPT. Its waste of time.

Haha, calling it “ChatGPT” is easier than answering the actual points, I guess.

But anyway, you don’t have to debate me. If you think something I said is wrong, just point out the specific claim and show the evidence.

Otherwise, labelling the argument as “ChatGPT” or "PTI" doesn’t really prove anything wrong with it.

 

[user]

Here is the reality

That's exactly how propaganda works.

 

[Watandar]

That's exactly how propaganda works.

propaganda was falsely claiming the colonel ki biwi was being harassed and assaulted by a mob. Then portraying the lunatic colonel as acting like a ghairatmand.

Unfortunately for ISPR, the internet moves faster than they do.

 

[Cipher212]

Sad thing is, it's not about whether this Colonel was justified or not. Who is to say that before any camera was turned on, the lady had been harassed in a way that sent her off the edge and her husband as well.

Rather the more concerning thing is the ferocity with which this singular officer is being defended, whereas it would have been much easier to shutter it as a case of bad apples and let it be. PTI does the same. Just a week or two ago a PTI supporter apparently tried to attack GHQ. Though his whole case is fishy it's still better to not support him in anyway until we know all the facts.

But that would eat away at a core stance of fauj-eets. That being, the Fauj is faultless. Not good, not excellent but faultless.

 

[Watandar]

Sad thing is, it's not about whether this Colonel was justified or not. Who is to say that before any camera was turned on, the lady had been harassed in a way that sent her off the edge and her husband as well.

Rather the more concerning thing is the ferocity with which this singular officer is being defended, whereas it would have been much easier to shutter it as a case of bad apples and let it be.

But that would eat away at a core stance of fauj-eets. That being, the Fauj is faultless. Not good, not excellent but faultless.

She was not being harassed at all. That lie has been exposed today.

 

[flyingorca]

People from okara knows who’s doing land encroachment into agriculture rich lands of poor people and driving them out… same pussreli playbook, learned from masters

The same Pussrel where James Goldsmith aka Imran Khan's daddy?
Btw, in Pakistan its common for land squatter mafias to exploit development projects. Like Islamabad was created by Military dictator and then all these jhupper pati loog came from nearby areas and made illegal settlements and claimed the land belongs to their ancestors sort of like pisreal playbook.