Makkah Defence Alliance: Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan, news & updates

[safriz]

I hope the alliance takes action against the Evil Persians.
Those for whom Abu Lulu is a hero .

 

[Owaiz]

Looks like America will stay the al Saud's primary defence supplier

US approves possible $5b weapons sale to Saudi Arabia amid Middle East tensions | The Express Tribune

State Department says sale aims to boost Saudi airborne, homeland defence as kingdom faces Iranian, Houthi strikes

tribune.com.pk

 

[PK781]

Looks like America will stay the al Saud's primary defence supplier

US approves possible $5b weapons sale to Saudi Arabia amid Middle East tensions | The Express Tribune

State Department says sale aims to boost Saudi airborne, homeland defence as kingdom faces Iranian, Houthi strikes

tribune.com.pk

US trying hard to drain the arab coffers wealth

 

[Owaiz]

https://www.axios.com/2026/09/04/trump-middle-east-iran-post-war-strategy

It will be interesting how Trump's plan for a new anti-Iran Middle East alliance and push for expansion of the Abraham Accords , possibly after Bibi is gone, will play out versus the Makkah Accord dynamics.

 

[hyperman]

You are massively overestimating the leverage Pakistan had in Afghanistan, especially after the OBL episode. Also, the regime in power now were supposed to be the good Taliban and expected to be more friendly than the Ghani government that was backed by India.

And there is so comparison between the military situations in Junagadh, Hyderabad and Goa, which were cakewalke for the Indian army, and Kashmir , where Pakistan had to fight the Indian army.

Pakistan had MASSIVE leverage. The entire American supply line to Afghanistan where they spend $2.5 Trillion over 20 years are almost completely reliant on Pakistani airspace and Pakistani roads and ports to access. Afghanistan is landlocked and cannot be reached, unless someone goes through Iran, Pakistan or the Central Asian state, which requires Russia anyways. Put simply any geopolitical interests in Central Asia for the US dependent on the Pakistani door.

If Pakistan insisted on a Border fence and sealing the border, the US would have been more than Happy as that would have decisively dealt with the insurgency.

As for the matter of Kashmir, Pakistan didn't send its army, it sent Lashkars from Waziristan to keep plausible deniability, to fight and take Kashmir, before it was annexed into India. What should have happened is a public uprising engineered and the neutralization of the Hindu King Hari Singh. The whole thing was half assed and by the time there was a real commitment, the Indian Ascension had happened and India was drawn into the war.

 

[R2D2]

With all due respect and being OFFTOPIC for first paragraph:

There is NO WAY we should go begging for peace to india. Did u ever look at what their entire media barks about daily ? You want to go make peace with a country that wants our blood and to kill Pakistanis and take over our land and make "akhand bharat", they talk how entire kashmir is theirs and want our GilgitBatistan too and they dream about taking over Lahore. Want to stop our Water? !!
Did u forget what they happened in 1965, 1971, 2019, 2025? You still want peace after all that shit? They even refused to shake the hands while playing cricket and other sports. Do you have ANY "ghairat" left?
Over 200,000 Pakistani citizens (and most of them innocent Balochs and Pathans of Balochistan and NWFP) have suffered and gotten killed (Shaheed) due to the insurgencies , ALL FUNDED by your India who u want to peace with.
So many of our priceless soldiers have embraced Shahadah while defending their Pakistani territory, should we brush that away and give them a slap for their sacrifice becase the likes of you want peace with india. ?? They were Baloch and Pathan too, many of them. They wore the Pakistani military uniform.
No matter what you do and give to them, they will NEVER accept you and will only treat u like a begging low scum shit, just like how they treat their own muslim populations.
Better yet, why don't u set an example, pick your entire family and just go live in india, and then show the world how great that peace gesture ends. See if they accept you and your family FIRST.

I am only suggesting neutralizing India so that we can concentrate on becoming a power in the Middle East. But if Pakistan wants to settle the water issue first then so be it.

 

[Owaiz]

Pakistan had MASSIVE leverage. The entire American supply line to Afghanistan where they spend $2.5 Trillion over 20 years are almost completely reliant on Pakistani airspace and Pakistani roads and ports to access. Afghanistan is landlocked and cannot be reached, unless someone goes through Iran, Pakistan or the Central Asian state, which requires Russia anyways. Put simply any geopolitical interests in Central Asia for the US dependent on the Pakistani door.

If Pakistan insisted on a Border fence and sealing the border, the US would have been more than Happy as that would have decisively dealt with the insurgency.

As for the matter of Kashmir, Pakistan didn't send its army, it sent Lashkars from Waziristan to keep plausible deniability, to fight and take Kashmir, before it was annexed into India. What should have happened is a public uprising engineered and the neutralization of the Hindu King Hari Singh. The whole thing was half assed and by the time there was a real commitment, the Indian Ascension had happened and India was drawn into the war.

You are forgetting that the Afghanistan arrangement was struck by the military dictator Musharraf who was in no position to refuse American demands. If any subsequent government had tried to upend it to squeeze ISAF forces, it could have resulted in direct military conflict with NATO, which India and Israel would also have happily exploited.

As for Kashmir, unlike Hyderabad, Junagadh and Goa, it shared a large border with both India and Pakistan, both of whose armies were commanded by British officers. According to the India Independence Act, the ruler had the absolute right to make a decision and the British commanders had refused to order a pre-emptive invasions. The Lashkars were initially supported by Pakistani officers and soldiers on leave and the Army got formally involved once the Indian army came in after the accession. There was no way that India would not have responded militarily unless the Maharaja had himself acceded to Pakistan. In theory, the same principle applied to Junagadh, but it was militarily indefensible and the Nizam of Hyderabad never acceded to Pakistan and Hyderabad being landlocked and far from Pakistan, could not have been helped in any case.

Goa was a case of a weak imperial power refusing to give Independence to its militarily indefensible colony even after France and UK had left. Even if India had not invaded, the Portuguese would have left after the Carnation Revolution anyway, when they gave up all their other colonial possessions.