Bangladesh: Two Soldiers Killed in Tank Firing Accident in Chattogram

[Arthur]

Type 69IIG on the way to Pilkhana on DHK-Savar Highway in 2009.

On the outskirts of Pilkhana in 2009

 

[Arthur]

But we don't know if it a Pak or Chinese ammo. Form new batches procured few years ago or the old ones now being spent for training.

Well if good supply chain practices are the sequence of issuance of ordance would be on a FIFO (First in First Out) basis.

Meaning older ordnances will be issued first for the field training.

Though I suspect a second or third round may also be present inside the Tank ignited by the first explosion. (That's a probability if this was a training involving quick successive firing by the crew)

 

[KingQamaR]

It hasn't been established what the cause of the explosion was but we have had social media activists blaming Indian ammo or Pakistani ammo but people will speculate. The matter is under investigation but the report is unlikley to see the light of day as it might offend someone.

None-sense finger pointing about Pakistani ammunition to be blamed here..

It is not ammonium fault. The gun breech failed to lock properly.

Truth is, this junk tank is from 1957 over 70 years ago. And yes you’ve had it heavily modernised version your Military said, yet I have never seen Russian tanks exploded by itself before.
Or are you now going to blame it was a Chinese copy

 

[Afif]

None-sense finger pointing about Pakistani ammunition to be blamed here..

It is not ammonium fault. The gun breech failed to lock properly.

Truth is, this junk tank is from 1957 over 70 years ago. And yes you’ve had it heavily modernised version your Military said, yet I have never seen Russian tanks exploded by itself before.
Or are you now going to blame it was a Chinese copy

So you are the expert here? I think not.

It is likely an ammo failure. Whether Pakistani or not.

Seems like the probable cause was 'back flash", wherein when a shell is fired, some of the heat energy (in the form of a bright hot flash) escapes back through the breech.....it normally burns soldiers inside the turret and cooks off any ammo stored there.....such incidents are common not due to old vintage of ammo, but mainly due to improperly-made ammo casings and shell base (manufacturer fault).

 

[KingQamaR]

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Type 69IIG on the way to Pilkhana on DHK-Savar Highway in 2009.
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On the outskirts of Pilkhana in 2009
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These tanks should be in a museum they have no place to be on a modern battlefield!

 

[KingQamaR]

So you are the expert here? I think not.

It is likely an ammo failure. Whether Pakistani or not.

This is why you need to clean the barrel every time and every day.

 

[KingQamaR]

Thats why you do a breech check before firing.

 

[KingQamaR]

Why does everything on this platform turn in to petty arguments

 

[Blain2]

Dude, these tanks as old as the country itself. Same with F-7 jets. Air force keep using them. Army is keeping using these too.

To their credit, the T-59s are the AK-47 of armor. They just work (although some maintenance is needed). They, like the AK-47, form the bedrock of all the wars going on around the world.

Also, you have to look at the incident rate with such things. BDA has been using the T-59 since 1971. How many such incidents have happened either in BDA or Pakistan? Not very many.

I spent 2-3 years visiting the Army Proof Ranges in Pakistan in the 80s and 1-2 T-59s were always at the range doing proofing firing for the POF manufactured ammunition (hundreds of rounds fired) and I don't recall any major issues with the tanks.

 

[Nimble]

These tanks should be in a museum they have no place to be on a modern battlefield!

They were heavily upgraded to Durjoy standard in 2017 and all the systems are new in that tank.... faulty ammunition is the reason.... even in Cambodia Thailand war we have seen very modern tank Iike VT4 had barrel burst because of faulty ammunition.... how tank itself will explode?

 

[Arthur]

These tanks should be in a museum they have no place to be on a modern battlefield!

Ideally yes. But the reality disagrees

They were heavily upgraded to Durjoy standard in 2017 and all the systems are new in that tank.... faulty ammunition is the reason.... even in Cambodia Thailand war we have seen very modern tank Iike VT4 had barrel burst because of faulty ammunition.... how tank itself will explode?

Again, Not the same tank.

 

[LeonBlack08]

All Type 69's were upgraded in early 2000's to Type 69 MKIIG standard.

1. Look at the Bore evacuator is at middle of the L7 gun. Very distinct compared to the legacy soviet gun.

2. ERA stack is also differs compared to upgraded 59's.

3. Look at the rear cage. Not available on the legacy 59's
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Though you can still argue that all Type 69's are Type 59 since Type 69 was actually an chinese upgrade to the Soviet Type 59 design.

But that would be like saying your 1st wife is your 2nd wife

Thanks man. Tankers in other mil forums flagged it as Type 69 as well.

Technically it is still correct to claim these were not T59 Durjoy that Indian media claimed lol.

 

[LeonBlack08]

They were heavily upgraded to Durjoy standard in 2017 and all the systems are new in that tank.... faulty ammunition is the reason.... even in Cambodia Thailand war we have seen very modern tank Iike VT4 had barrel burst because of faulty ammunition.... how tank itself will explode?

Nope, not Durjoy. These are Type 69 Mk II G. See @Arthur post above.

Durjoys have 125 mm gun. This one had 105mm.