‘I want to cry’: Afghan medical students in Pakistan face expulsion fear

I guess Pakistan is going over the top and creating unnecessary hardship for Afghans living peacefully in Pakistan.
There's no reason and no point in throwing people out because of their ethnicity.
What a strange creature you are turning out to be. Afghans - who loathe your country, by definition - are barhadari now are they? Dare I even ask why?? Go on. Enlighten me. See if you can give me an answer that we didn't hear in 1990.
 
I guess Pakistan is going over the top and creating unnecessary hardship for Afghans living peacefully in Pakistan.
There's no reason and no point in throwing people out because of their ethnicity.
You surprise me sometimes. Good show, good show.
 
I guess Pakistan is going over the top and creating unnecessary hardship for Afghans living peacefully in Pakistan.
There's no reason and no point in throwing people out because of their ethnicity.
Living "peacefully" 😂
At this point it seems like PTI followers have taken a page out of American Libturds book and ran with it. Next demand will be start the drum 🥁 🪘 you guessed it right...... open borders saaar. Let all Afghans come in saaar very peaceful people saaar. While their favorite Iranians and their proxy Houthis will kick you out the moment you peacefully start preaching anti state narrative...
 
Living "peacefully" 😂
At this point it seems like PTI followers have taken a page out of American Libturds book and ran with it. Next demand will be start the drum 🥁 🪘 you guessed it right...... open borders saaar. Let all Afghans come in saaar very peaceful people saaar. While their favorite Iranians and their proxy Houthis will kick you out the moment you peacefully start preaching anti state narrative...

The revolutionary political party had promised Pakistani citizenship to Afghans. The election slogan may have manufactured a voter fraud but no one cares.
 
I don't give a flying feck about failed Pakistan geostrategic policies or what not. I ONLY care about pprotectng the lives and well-being of Pakistani civilians. If that means kicking out all these dirty afghan terrorist scumbags out of Pakistan then so be it. Justifying the massacre of Pakistani civilians because of our policies is the most lowest, dirtiest and treacherous act. Pakistan and Pakistanis FIRST.
Why? bcz it is an inconvenient truth? or it gives you trauma that you want to wash with expelling law abiding studnets? if they are not, then prosecute them!

So, we should blame yahood and hanood for our problems then. We made our fair share of mistakes to get here. Who said that keep doing drone attacks and we will protest in public? Who owned Dama Dolla drone strike? Our own DG ISPR. If we had directed (public anger) it towards the US/NATO, perhaps there would not have been TTP. We took so many urtay teer towards us.
You solve what you can

There doesn't need to be 100% threat from the people


I ask again and again


Where is there any meaningful reciprocal good will from Afghanistan relative to what Pakistan has done.
Yes, that should be the approach. Expelling diplomats, artists, players, etc is a meaningful way of dissent. Expelling students is something else and can be done gracefully.
Afghans are a tribal society. Individually, they can be grateful, but collectively they don't take a pro/anti stance until there is a wholesome tribal acceptance. The majority, for sure, would now be anti-Pakistan
@M. Sarmad why do you think they are not 'grateful'
 
That's not even true


Just say it, which is what you know, it's a one way street.
Still, I don't get it.
In general, Pashtuns are proud and racist when it comes to marriage, etc. I have seen good Afghans here and lived with a very arrogant one (in student life).
However, one thing is clear. Their tribe and values come first. Even if they are in the Afghan Police or the Army, or in trade/business, or giving favours or marriage, they patronise on a tribal basis.
 
Still, I don't get it.
In general, Pashtuns are proud and racist when it comes to marriage, etc. I have seen good Afghans here and lived with a very arrogant one (in student life).
However, one thing is clear. Their tribe and values come first. Even if they are in the Afghan Police or the Army, or in trade/business, or giving favours or marriage, they patronise on a tribal basis.
Right, and that's an endorsement?

Then why do they deserve higher principles of good will, you outlined why you should not yourself
 
Then why do they deserve higher principles of good will, you outlined why you should not yourself
bcz it is a reflection of us. The thing is, how should we act when giving justice or a life-changing decision.
Also, (هَلْ جَزَاءُ الْإِحْسَانِ إِلَّا الْإِحْسَانُ) translates to "Is the reward for good [anything] but good?
If an individual is good in his acts, then we should reciprocate it. We cannot blame a son for his father's sins (or students for Kabul's mistake). Still, nationals can be expelled for diplomatic reasons, but cautiously.
If you know about game theory, then watch it. Why Tit for Tat always results in an advantage
 
bcz it is a reflection of us. The thing is, how should we act when giving justice or a life-changing decision.
Also, (هَلْ جَزَاءُ الْإِحْسَانِ إِلَّا الْإِحْسَانُ) translates to "Is the reward for good [anything] but good?
If an individual is good in his acts, then we should reciprocate it. We cannot blame a son for his father's sins (or students for Kabul's mistake). Still, nationals can be expelled for diplomatic reasons, but cautiously.
If you know about game theory, then watch it. Why Tit for Tat always results in an advantage


And those who wish you bad after benefitting from good will you continue to invite to your home

What does islam say about being a guest?

You lost it buddy

Good will and higher principles are a two way street
 
I guess Pakistan is going over the top and creating unnecessary hardship for Afghans living peacefully in Pakistan.
There's no reason and no point in throwing people out because of their ethnicity.
In other thread you want Pakistanis to fight and die in Yemen.

But for the actual enemies of Pakistan, even kicking them out is over the top?

You people don't even surprise me anymore
 
Why? bcz it is an inconvenient truth? or it gives you trauma that you want to wash with expelling law abiding studnets? if they are not, then prosecute them!

So, we should blame yahood and hanood for our problems then. We made our fair share of mistakes to get here. Who said that keep doing drone attacks and we will protest in public? Who owned Dama Dolla drone strike? Our own DG ISPR. If we had directed (public anger) it towards the US/NATO, perhaps there would not have been TTP. We took so many urtay teer towards us.

Yes, that should be the approach. Expelling diplomats, artists, players, etc is a meaningful way of dissent. Expelling students is something else and can be done gracefully.
Afghans are a tribal society. Individually, they can be grateful, but collectively they don't take a pro/anti stance until there is a wholesome tribal acceptance. The majority, for sure, would now be anti-Pakistan
@M. Sarmad why do you think they are not 'grateful'


So that justifies the murder of 90,000+ Pakistanis at the hands of the afghandu terrorist scumbags? It justifies afghandu claims to Pakistani territory since 1947? It justifies afghandu collusion with Islamaphobic hindutva scumbags to cause terrorism in Pakistan? If so then Pakistan deserves to nuke and WIPEOUT ALL afghans from the face of the earth.

Funny how you try to justify afghandu terrorism against Pakistan and say NOTHING for the deaths of 90,000+ Pakistanis at the hands of the afghandu terrorist scumbags.
 
Living "peacefully" 😂
At this point it seems like PTI followers have taken a page out of American Libturds book and ran with it. Next demand will be start the drum 🥁 🪘 you guessed it right...... open borders saaar. Let all Afghans come in saaar very peaceful people saaar. While their favorite Iranians and their proxy Houthis will kick you out the moment you peacefully start preaching anti state narrative...

The damage has already been done.

How many hundreds of billions has Pakistan lost over the last 20 years? We lost our standing in the world because of them.

Why do they keep trying to force a relationship with Pakistan and Afghanistan?
 
Right, and that's an endorsement?

Then why do they deserve higher principles of good will, you outlined why you should not yourself
It's a great tactic isn't it? Ummah barhadari outline the exact problem in their each and every phull sapport post, and then stand there eyes wide open, "...so what exactly is the problem?".
 
It's a great tactic isn't it? Ummah barhadari outline the exact problem in their each and every phull sapport post, and then stand there eyes wide open, "...so what exactly is the problem?".
One way ummah gaslighting from the ethno nationalist abusers of the same concept


Not one person could outline any reciprocal good will gestures....


Yes they are ethno nationalists who actually mean you harm but still open your doors ....
 

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