Makkah Defence Alliance: Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan, news & updates

[TAC]

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Please don’t post BS & butthurt Indian sources. Truly begairat & Besharam people who invent stories & spread them for self gratification. Yeah ‘reportedly’ this news came from Modi’s butt hole.

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

For a moment forget that its a Saudi speaking, but just listen to what he has to say. Iran regime exposed within 2 minutes. Iran and Israel benifit from Palestine misery. Israel can justify its occupation and IRGC gets to justify its existence. Palestine only is a fantasy and only two state solution is practical where both sides gets to live in peace.

What happened with their old wahabi conspiracy theory?

"Iran and Israel are not enemies, their conflict is just theatrics to fool muslims".

After they saw Iran-Israel war is real, the zio-wahabis switched to:
"May Allah let the oppressors fight among each other".

 

[TAC]

yep, the more iranians and their sectarian factions attack the arabs, the more they push them towards isreal. That much is obvious. I pointed this out in the past. This war has been exceptional business for isreal, who sits pretty and doesn't suffer any retributions.

Its a losing position for iran because it further entrenches nations regionally against them. Its also a loss for the arabs because it forces them to drink from a poisoned well.

From the isreali perspective, this is all good news. Exceptional news.

Yep, First Post, now there’s a quality Indian news outlet! And not like Indians have any axe to grind is it? Did you also believe it when Indian media reported that they had seized Lahore port? ‘Yep’ must also be true eh?

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

It seems as if the Saudis are working the long con!

The Saudi clan fight with Yemen has very drawn out history... and back then they employed themselves as a proxy of Brits to undo Yemen while the empire aimed to colonize all of Yemen.

Egyptians made their attempt and subsequently Saudis did it again on behalf of the empire... along with Emirates. Using Yemenis and African mercenaries to turn the tide. Nothing has worked in fact it seems the tide has turned. So, now they want to employ larger more professional militaries less apprehensive about loss of their lives, should they make it their own war. A ground work is being laid...a casus belli being manufactured... ruckus generated... and all the pantomime... choreographing attacks to rile up masses. For all the bad blood between them... drill it in the surrogates. A war fought by proxy of a proxy... when Hillary backed regime change in Yemen and Saudis started pounding Yemen to submit... US did everything by air... while locals and mercenaries launched the ground ops. Now they want to off shore that project to Pakistan and Turkiye.

It would be wise for Pakistan to draw the line... on Saudi territorial integrity and nothing else... with no aggression on Yemen... Houthis on their end have narrowed it down to the proxies... assuming US genuinely doesn't want to harm them or their cause for independence... while Saudis are in fact running their proxy to this day... the collapse of Saudi backed government and Somaliland are direct losses for zion for which they have spent decades and poured resources. Wouldn't want it jeopardized!

 

[r3alist]

Call Hinduism “disgusting, vulgar, cheap” all you want. The record of the Indian subcontinent itself exposes that claim as empty noise.

Look at the actual condition of those who left it. In the same land, under the same climate, the same historical pressures, and with the same human material, communities that abandoned Hinduism en masse did not produce superior societies. On the metrics that matter—social cohesion, institutional continuity, gender balance, economic dynamism, and civilizational output—the results are often inferior, not superior. If dumping Hinduism were the great liberation you claim, the evidence on the ground would show it. It does not. That is the uncomfortable fact you keep dodging.

Hinduism is not some cheap imported cult. It is a civilizational operating system—scientific in its observation of nature, adaptive in its social structures, and tailored over millennia to the specific ecology, demography, and complexity of the Indian subcontinent. It integrated astronomy, medicine, mathematics, ethics, and social organization without needing a single prophet, a closed book, or a mandate to conquer. That is not “vulgar.” That is high-order civilizational engineering.

Millions left it. So what? People have abandoned every tradition under conquest, pressure, or incentive. Volume of exit is not proof of superiority of what replaced it. The real test is results. And the results in the subcontinent itself do not flatter the leavers.

You say you “couldn’t care less.” Fine. The data still does. The condition of those who left is visible. The continuity and adaptability of the system they abandoned is also visible. Mocking it does not erase either.

You are inviting people to utterly decimate and defecate on this bile


You can state what you want but you can't prove it meaningful

The reality is the conception and lived experience of the Hindu soul is ugly to many

Priestly shamanism has created dalits, the abomination is not that poor people exist versus that they were nurtured to dalithood over centuries by a belief system that keeps them there

You cannot imagine how horrifying this religious norm is just to even witnesses human degradation as a good way to live.

It's okay in an analogue unglobalised world, now it's exposed


You hate those who emancipated themselves, those who generation upon generation remain steadfast on what their forefathers discarded and gratitude for the spiritual life they have.

 

[CallSignMaverick]

Please don’t post BS & butthurt Indian sources. Truly begairat & Besharam people who invent stories & spread them for self gratification. Yeah ‘reportedly’ this news came from Modi’s butt hole.

Ad hominem attacks from an illiterate youthiia...

 

[flyingorca]

Kid, reproduce that statement! Or shut up already


Very active imagination you got their toddler... calm down


You don't say!

I have been inviting you to move along!


I see... don't!


Yes, make me laugh!

Dear Uncle.... next time if I catch you making up a statement based on your imagination, Im gonna call you out again.

 

[flyingorca]

What happened with their old wahabi conspiracy theory?

"Iran and Israel are not enemies, their conflict is just theatrics to fool muslims".

After they saw Iran-Israel war is real, the zio-wahabis switched to:
"May Allah let the oppressors fight among each other".

If you go back in history, no one has clean record. I am not sure if this form will allow me to share some ayatollah khomeini sick perverted statements here. The very reason why many Iranians are leaving Islam because of this twisted version introduced by mullah regime. Wait until you start to live your life under their rule and you will beg to move out.
Neither Saudia has clean record. But the point is, dont make IRGC your new baap. We as Pakistan need to balance our relations with the two nations based on national interest. At the end of the day Pakistan benefits more from Saudia then it does from Iran.

Tell me how has Iran deterred Israel from this conflict? Has Israel pulled out of Palestine and Lebanon?
What is the solution for Palestine?

 

[hussain0216]

Call Hinduism “disgusting, vulgar, cheap” all you want. The record of the Indian subcontinent itself exposes that claim as empty noise.

Look at the actual condition of those who left it. In the same land, under the same climate, the same historical pressures, and with the same human material, communities that abandoned Hinduism en masse did not produce superior societies. On the metrics that matter—social cohesion, institutional continuity, gender balance, economic dynamism, and civilizational output—the results are often inferior, not superior. If dumping Hinduism were the great liberation you claim, the evidence on the ground would show it. It does not. That is the uncomfortable fact you keep dodging.

Hinduism is not some cheap imported cult. It is a civilizational operating system—scientific in its observation of nature, adaptive in its social structures, and tailored over millennia to the specific ecology, demography, and complexity of the Indian subcontinent. It integrated astronomy, medicine, mathematics, ethics, and social organization without needing a single prophet, a closed book, or a mandate to conquer. That is not “vulgar.” That is high-order civilizational engineering.

Millions left it. So what? People have abandoned every tradition under conquest, pressure, or incentive. Volume of exit is not proof of superiority of what replaced it. The real test is results. And the results in the subcontinent itself do not flatter the leavers.

You say you “couldn’t care less.” Fine. The data still does. The condition of those who left is visible. The continuity and adaptability of the system they abandoned is also visible. Mocking it does not erase either.

Buddy,, Hinduism is crap

You vulgar chapri Yatra videos are all over the Internet

Your weird superstitions are everywhere

Hindu is just cheap and chapri

Not one wants to be a Hindu

We don't want to live in India
You have been brainwashed to think that a irrelevant India or Hindus have any relevance anywhere



Partition was fantastic
We need another partition of India


Stop being weird, your like a obsessive Hindu ex-girlfriend

 

[Yasser76]

All but confirms it


“Pakistan fully stands with the kingdom of Saudi Arabia, both diplomatically and physically. And I would like to underscore the word physically,” Lt Gen Chaudhry said in the interview with Arab News.

“We will go to any extent for the security of Haramain Sharifain and the kingdom of Saudi Arabia. To any extent as asked and required by our Saudi brothers,” he said.

https://www.dawn.com/news/2030830/our-commitment-is-unconditional-amid-houthi-attacks-dg-ispr-says-pakistan-will-go-to-any-extent-to-defend-saudi-arabia

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

All what I am saying that every nations looks after its interests and the sooner people realize that Iran is not the final hope of Muslim ummah the better it is. Atleast we all know about faults with Saudia but atleast they have facilitated millions of pilgrims each year. Mecca is not meant to be a historical museum for Muslim but a place of worship and Islam is complete with Prophet Mohammed and what Allah has revealed in Quran.

thtas just your POV!

you could be wrong (or right!).

but does not mean, everybody else is so wrong, that, they have lost the right to say or write?!

 

[F.O.X]

All but confirms it


“Pakistan fully stands with the kingdom of Saudi Arabia, both diplomatically and physically. And I would like to underscore the word physically,” Lt Gen Chaudhry said in the interview with Arab News.

“We will go to any extent for the security of Haramain Sharifain and the kingdom of Saudi Arabia. To any extent as asked and required by our Saudi brothers,” he said.

https://www.dawn.com/news/2030830/our-commitment-is-unconditional-amid-houthi-attacks-dg-ispr-says-pakistan-will-go-to-any-extent-to-defend-saudi-arabia

Pakistan was making preparations in the previous weeks, it seems like they are close to be completed.

 

[Mobius]

I'm all for protecting the 2 holy sites. But let's get real, House of Saud started this mess and Pakistan shouldn't feel forced to drag itself into the situation. We have plenty of our own issues to fix without these fat, lazy, low IQ sheikhs creating more sh1t for us.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Pakistan was making preparations in the previous weeks, it seems like they are close to be completed.

Does Pakistan have any "spare military" capacity to give to Saudi? The Armed Forces of Pakistan have barely enough to fight a war for 2-3 weeks against India, so to suggest they have "spare fighter jets" sitting around to use in Saudi makes little sense. Maybe PA Soldiers given that they are not that relevant to a India-Pakistan war in the future, but the air force and navy are critical against India.

The one squadron of JF17's in Saudi, will be stretching the capacity of the PAF given how large a problem the IAF poses with its much larger fleet. The AEW&C fleet is sized solely for Pakistan as of now, and any diversion to Saudi will open up capability gaps for Pakistan, same applies to the PAF.

Where is this "spare" military capability coming from that it can somehow magically devote to Saudi ???

 

[mythbuster]

Does Pakistan have any "spare military" capacity to give to Saudi? The Armed Forces of Pakistan have barely enough to fight a war for 2-3 weeks against India, so to suggest they have "spare fighter jets" sitting around to use in Saudi makes little sense. Maybe PA Soldiers given that they are not that relevant to a India-Pakistan war in the future, but the air force and navy are critical against India.

The one squadron of JF17's in Saudi, will be stretching the capacity of the PAF given how large a problem the IAF poses with its much larger fleet. The AEW&C fleet is sized solely for Pakistan as of now, and any diversion to Saudi will open up capability gaps for Pakistan, same applies to the PAF.

Where is this "spare" military capability coming from that it can somehow magically devote to Saudi ???

PAF is not required , one squadron of jf 17 is good enough..... couple of divisions of Pak army are required to get the job done.