The Mecca Pact’s First Test Has Exposed Its Central Weakness

[TAC]

It’s funny to believe that China would risk the lives of its own people for another country. That philosophy is very idealistic and, in practical terms, is unlikely to happen.

The same applies to every country. No government will willingly put the lives of its own people at serious risk for another country if the potential cost is too high. National security and the safety of their own population will always come first.

Did China risk the lives of their own people during your botched Sindoor? Yet Indians are still crying about Chinese help to Pakistan & associated epic humiliation of India.

 

[TAC]

Saudi Arabia has sought assistance from the United States, the United Kingdom, and the European Union, bypassing the alliance directly.
Even Egypt received a request for assistance from Saudi Arabia.

Let’s see now, do u think maybe that they a bypassed the alliance and approached US because they have the technology they need? Saudi’s already have better kit than Pakistan and Turkey no?? Unless they intend to nuke the Houthi!
As for Egypt - maybe u could just look at a map?

 

[r3alist]

That is actually a great example - and likely that such people would celebrate Pakistani deaths just so their god and lord is able to come to power.

I hope it's just hyperbole, because I am sure @Watandar is just frustrated and hopes the best in his own way

 

[Oscar]

I hope it's just hyperbole, because I am sure @Watandar is just frustrated and hopes the best in his own way

Shouting death to America whenever your gutter overflows Or you pulled up your zipper without packing everything away is laziness - not frustration

 

[Watandar]

Another in-depth article that discusses this pact, it's limits and it's targets.

Pakistan hints at joining war on Houthis

Pakistan has threatened to join the war in the Middle East as it pledged to defend Saudi Arabia from Houthi rebels.

www.yahoo.com

 

[Irfan Baloch]

who cares, I'd take a pay cheque in arab dollars any day!

more than a pay cheque, I will never ask, what actually maximizes Pak. interests

sorry, spoken the truth

those Halal dollars come with the risk of Pakistani blood that will be spilled in that meat grinder and further destabalisation inside Pakistan.
we just had another terror attack reminding us that we got BLA and Takfiri khawarij inside Pakistan that need dealing first before we go around offering our men to fight the Saudi wars.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Shouting death to America whenever your gutter overflows Or you pulled up your zipper without packing everything away is laziness - not frustration

behave. back in the school days I made that mistake and it hurt a lot .. yes the laziness was not wearing the underwear

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

Don’t know why instead of all this you just didn’t say how butthurt you are about this deal & hoping & preying it fails & therefore never becomes an issue for Supapowa India. Isn’t that the real truth about u?

Seriously, this deal does impact to India.

Even if there was no deal - turkey would have supported Pakistan without the deal with indirectly.

Saudi stance might without the deal could have neutral but now only changes, they will do political support to Pakistan... This overall the impact before and after the agreement

 

[Oscar]

behave. back in the school days I made that mistake and it hurt a lot .. yes the laziness was not wearing the underwear

Well - at least you didn’t say that you not wearing the underwear was actually tied to the alarm clock not going off because your phone didn’t charge due to loadshedding which was a direct result of state and government policies which you have to suffer because god knows why he has put such leaders on you

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

Did China risk the lives of their own people during your botched Sindoor? Yet Indians are still crying about Chinese help to Pakistan & associated epic humiliation of India.

I’ve already said that China would indirectly support Pakistan in a future war. It’s not rocket science to understand that. Similar way india will get indirect support from other countries

However, unlike in 1971, when the US and UK were encouraging China to intervene, the possibility of direct military intervention has now become almost negligible. A conflict between two nuclear-armed states creates an entirely different level of risk, and other countries are unlikely to directly interfere because their own people’s safety, national security, and strategic interests come first.

Even putting nuclear weapons aside, if a war broke out between Saudi Arabia and Iran today, Pakistan’s chances of directly joining the war against Iran would be very limited. Once again, national interests, the safety of its own people, and the risk of escalation would come first.

Russia’s war in Ukraine is a good example. Russia has repeatedly treated the direct deployment of foreign military personnel as a red line. So far, no NATO country has officially deployed its own combat forces to fight Russia directly, largely because of the risk of escalation and the principle that national security and the safety of their own citizens come first.

 

[That_Guy]

Once again, I have to point out that it is a DEFENSIVE PACT. Just like why NATO never joined the US's war in Iraq or Iran, this was a war that the Saudis started.

Unless the Houthis directly send forces into KSA, AND the Saudis ask for help (both of these need to happen), the Mecca pact does NOT apply here.

Anyone who says differently is dumb as bricks.

 

[HAIDER]

Once again, I have to point out that it is a DEFENSIVE PACT. Just like why NATO never joined the US's war in Iraq or Iran, this was a war that the Saudis started.

Unless the Houthis directly send forces into KSA, AND the Saudis ask for help (both of these need to happen), the Mecca pact does NOT apply here.

Anyone who says differently is dumb as bricks.

Saudi never raise the organized military , because eventually they will challenge the power of these monarchs ....these military officers climb the ladder of promotion from rock bottom and come from middle class family ................do you think they will allow a middle class person challenge there authority ??????????????? .... never....

 

[MH.Yang]

Without invading the territory, it can only be considered a conflict, not a war.

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

Without invading the territory, it can only be considered a conflict, not a war.

No, A ground invasion is not required for something to be considered a war. If two countries engage in sustained military attacks through missiles, drones, or airstrikes, it can be described as a war, even without occupying each other’s territory.

For example, if Russia and the US were fighting today using missiles, rockets, drones and air warfare, but neither side invaded the other’s territory, it would still be considered a war.

And if people start making excuses like, “You started the war, so we don’t have to support you,” then such a military treaty becomes practically useless, because there will always be some excuse to avoid honoring it.

 

[TAC]

I’ve already said that China would indirectly support Pakistan in a future war. It’s not rocket science to understand that. Similar way india will get indirect support from other countries

However, unlike in 1971, when the US and UK were encouraging China to intervene, the possibility of direct military intervention has now become almost negligible. A conflict between two nuclear-armed states creates an entirely different level of risk, and other countries are unlikely to directly interfere because their own people’s safety, national security, and strategic interests come first.

Even putting nuclear weapons aside, if a war broke out between Saudi Arabia and Iran today, Pakistan’s chances of directly joining the war against Iran would be very limited. Once again, national interests, the safety of its own people, and the risk of escalation would come first.

Russia’s war in Ukraine is a good example. Russia has repeatedly treated the direct deployment of foreign military personnel as a red line. So far, no NATO country has officially deployed its own combat forces to fight Russia directly, largely because of the risk of escalation and the principle that national security and the safety of their own citizens come first.

I never said they or anyone would directly intervene what I said was that they can be very effective without ‘risking the lives of their citizens’ and that has been proven.