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[NeptunesVortex]

now, imagine, what this holds for you, when open conflict breaks!

History already answered that question for you. One side ends up permanently altered. Loud and clear. That scar is still raw and bleeding.

 

[White Privilege]

Swiss report, the satellite pics and your own broken air force are saying something completely different. Desert Storm was lopsided because one side had proper planning, better weapons and actually knew how to use air power. Same thing happened to PAF in Sindoor. Calling high value targets just Google Maps coordinates is pure cope from you. Those were high value airbases, command centres, hangars, radars and C2 nodes that got systematically hammered. Independent European analysis from the Swiss CHPM think tank flat-out says that by the morning of 10 May the IAF had achieved air superiority over significant portions of Pakistani airspace.

PAF lost the plot completely because its forward radars got knocked out and the S-400 threat forced their AWACS and standoff platforms to stay well back. Their own strikes were largely thwarted by Indian defences. That’s exactly why Pakistani DGMO came asking for the ceasefire.

IAF hit Nur Khan, Sargodha (runway cratered and the scars are still visible 16 months later), Bholari (hangar smashed, Erieye destroyed), Jacobabad (F-16 hangar hit), Murid C2 UG centre, Rahim Yar Khan and more.

PAF’s ass got handed to it on a platter. Whatever BS you keep shouting about didn’t stop the systematic degradation of your air defence network and infrastructure. Independent sources, satellite proof and the final outcome all say the same thing. Keep coping with the emojis

LOL satellite images only show the hangars' damaged, all that talk of numerous assets presumably inside and completely destroyed is ur own pipe dreaming. Desert storm was a worn out from 8 year war and operationally, economically and doctrinally out of date Iraqi aur force against a huge coalition which was using state of the art equipment and tactics and had endless resources, not really the May scenario.....booooo. And, did your air force attack in the cover of night, through heavy AD guided by dead reckoning in GPS denied environment, and do aerial BDA afterwards, no, it just programmed those munitions and launched from long range, nothing systematic revolutionary Yada Yada yada.....In fact our S-400 mission way way more risky as Thunder had to penetrate inside S-400 engagement zone and survive, u guys admit 'weapon landed close but S-400 had moved' however we know it fried the Cheese board radar,that is a James bond story to be honest....

In fact by your Indian admission, S-400 was 'moving' constantly,which means it was suppressed successfully. You cannot believe your propaganda about its combat effectiveness when we see it smoked so easily in the Ukraine conflict...

Sure IAF had air superiority 400 km inside India where it launched from.. Weapons impact inside Pakistan is no indication of air superiority as I have explained it can also be achieved in a contested one.

DGMO call on 10th was in accordance with the May 7 correspondence, where he said we will stand down after our own response. Infact ur DGMO called us first on May 7th to deescalate, as disclosed in your parliament.....

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

History already answered that question for you. One side ends up permanently altered. Loud and clear. That scar is still raw and bleeding.

Please complete your post or let me write for you!
"just like in Dhrundhar"

 

[CallSignMaverick]

Majority of the world’s air combat missions almost 80% have always been A2G. Actual A2A BVR kills are the rare. Look at any serious war: Desert Storm, coalition AFs flew around 40,000 A2G sorties while real A2A engagements were a tiny fraction. That’s how real air forces operate. Once you have enough control of the sky, the primary mission is to smash the enemy’s bases, radars, command centres, hangars and infras from range.That is the primary mission.

IAF precision strikes systematically tore into PAF from Nur Khan in the north all the way down to Bholari, Jacobabad, Sargodha and the rest. Multiple independent analyses, including European ones concluded that by 10 May the IAF had the freedom to hit whatever it wanted while PAF had lost the ability to mount effective counter ops. That’s what winning the air war looks like in the real world.

Look at your own side. PAF was so severely lacking in proper A2G ground munitions that it had to resort to Fateh-I, Fateh-II and other ground launched rockets and missiles fired by the Pakistani Army. Thats an air force that couldn’t carry the A2G load from the air and had to outsource the job to artillery batteries. When your fighters can’t deliver sustained precision strikes and you start firing Fateh rockets instead, you are the ones who turned into a rocket force, not IAF.

IAF stayed in the actual business of modern air power putting weapons on the targets that matter and dismantling the other side’s ability to fight. PAF got exposed for its thin A2G cupboard and had to lean on ground systems.

You're arguing with those who genuinely believe all of this is 100% real


Same bunch who'd endlessly claim "we can shoot down any and every Indian jet, we can hit any Indian target with Yiha-3, we can destroy all S-400, we can sink all Indian aircraft carriers, ships, submarines" are somehow not retaliating against India everytime "Fitna-al-Hindustan" does something and casualties go into double digits like yesterday's Fidayeen attack the way India has been doing against them.

Fauji foundation knows, their real battle is on reels and social media.

 

[White Privilege]

So a sub 2.5k ton Romanian patrol boat is somehow supposed to damage a 8k ton destroyer? Which physics class taught you that in Pakistan?

Your cheap little OPV charged in like a drunk rickshaw, got its bow crumpled like tin foil and had to limp back to harbour for repairs. Indian warship warship just brushed it off and kept sailing. Zero structural damage on our side. MEA said it clear no major damage.

And spare us the lectures about masking truth. You lot hid French Mirages destroyed in 1971 until France itself had to reveal the real numbers because your PR parade of intact jets didn’t match the delivery records. Same old habit.

A lol was not supposed to happen according to Bollywood fairytales, but it did. Don't suppose, if u want to claim something provide evidence instead of word salads.

LOL and where did u dig up that French thing?? PAF had lined up all its pre war received jets for international press to inspect. In fact Indians were provoking Pakistan to line up its F-16s after 2019, just like after the Mirage lineup after 71. We did it again, proved u wrong again.....

 

[Yasser76]

You're arguing with those who genuinely believe all of this is 100% real


Same bunch who'd endlessly claim "we can shoot down any and every Indian jet, we can hit any Indian target with Yiha-3, we can destroy all S-400, we can sink all Indian aircraft carriers, ships, submarines" are somehow not retaliating against India everytime "Fitna-al-Hindustan" does something and casualties go into double digits like yesterday's Fidayeen attack the way India has been doing against them.

Fauji foundation knows, their real battle is on reels and social media.

You have created an entire sub film industry around military fantasies that is mocked globally, sure you want to go down this road?

 

[White Privilege]

You have created an entire sub film industry around military fantasies that is mocked globally, sure you want to go down this road?

LOL that MiG-21 drag race, they forgot to teach Abhinandan that shit, they don't just mock physics they try to reinvent laws of nature....

 

[CallSignMaverick]

You have created an entire sub film industry around military fantasies that is mocked globally, sure you want to go down this road?

You wanna compare what a bunch of movie makers make and claim v/s what shaheen foundation makes? Wow grape.

LOL that MiG-21 drag race, they don't just mock physics they try to reinvent laws of nature....

Crabbing it's called, exaggerated by CGI, but yeah, still more realistic than 2 ladaka taiyyaras crossing each other with an air to air missile passing in between them without engaging proximity fuse, reinventing physics in lollywood.

 

[White Privilege]

Crabbing it's called, exaggerated by CGI, but yeah, still more realistic than 2 ladaka taiyyaras crossing each other with an air to air missile passing in between them without engaging proximity fuse, reinventing physics in lollywood.

LOL now I know why IAF is so bad, it ( an the Indians in general) actually believes PAF fights the way shown in these imagined flight scenes......

 

[NeptunesVortex]

LOL satellite images only show the hangars' damaged, all that talk of numerous assets presumably inside and completely destroyed is ur own pipe dreaming. Desert storm was a worn out from 8 year war and operationally, economically and doctrinally out of date Iraqi aur force against a huge coalition which was using state of the art equipment and tactics and had endless resources, not really the May scenario.....booooo. And, did your air force attack in the cover of night, through heavy AD guided by dead reckoning in GPS denied environment, and do aerial BDA afterwards, no, it just programmed those munitions and launched from long range, nothing systematic revolutionary Yada Yada yada.....In fact our S-400 mission way way more risky as Thunder had to penetrate inside S-400 engagement zone and survive, u guys admit 'weapon landed close but S-400 had moved' however we know it fried the Cheese board radar,that is a James bond story to be honest....

In fact by your Indian admission, S-400 was 'moving' constantly,which means it was suppressed successfully. You cannot believe your propaganda about its combat effectiveness when we see it smoked so easily in the Ukraine conflict...

Sure IAF had air superiority 400 km inside India where it launched from.. Weapons impact inside Pakistan is no indication of air superiority as I have explained it can also be achieved in a contested one.

DGMO call on 10th was in accordance with the May 7 correspondence, where he said we will stand down after our own response. Infact ur DGMO called us first on May 7th to deescalate, as disclosed in your parliament.....

LOL yeah we saw exactly who had to scramble and invent an entire brand new Army Rocket Force Command from scratch. And what about the J-35 obsession? Peak cope. The same air force that bragged about Thunder penetrating the S-400 engagement zone (while the system was still very much alive and Modi was casually posing with it days later) is now desperately chasing Chinese stealth like a kid who just got bodied in the playground and runs home begging for the newest toy.

IAF yanked the whole PAF system’s spine out while it was still twitching. Pakistan’s air defence was brain dead, twitching in a pool of its own latency. Now same energy with the sudden hard-on for German IRIS-T / sleek European AD after your Chinese HQ-9s and HQ-16s were hammered by Indian munitions. Now it’s quick, buy the German stuff that actually works in Ukraine. Nothing says our doctrine is cutting edge like frantically shopping for foreign AD because the stuff you already paid for got embarrassed in real combat

 

[Yasser76]

You wanna compare what a bunch of movie makers make and claim v/s what shaheen foundation makes? Wow grape.

Crabbing it's called, exaggerated by CGI, but yeah, still more realistic than 2 ladaka taiyyaras crossing each other with an air to air missile passing in between them without engaging proximity fuse, reinventing physics in lollywood.

One X post v an whole industry,, yeah,, lets compare. "Lahore Port", "MIG-21s defying gravity" Freak show is laughed at by the world.

The hatred of Pakistan has caused Bollywood to be ridiculed when it was once respected. Even in UAE with it's massive Indian population they banned your fantasy films, many UK cinemas refuse to show them.

To convince 1.4 Billion Indians you have not been consistently militarily bested by Pakistan you are required to do this, I get that. The fact you log on here and need to post this cope also shows us that we have scarred you so deeply, and to such an extent, then rather talk about Indian military you HAVE to try and pull down a Pakistan military that has humiliated you. I get why. In paper and Modi's propoganda and Bollywood kept telling you India was invincible, when reality slaps you across the face you are in shock. Your thearapy is coming on here, sometimes with multiple IDs, in a tragic attempt to actually convince yourself that these things are not true.

I feel sorry for you and at the same time consider how pathetic you are.

 

[NeptunesVortex]

LOL now I know why IAF is so bad, it ( an the Indians in general) actually believes PAF fights the way shown in these imagined flight scenes......

PAF pilots are piss poor trained. Not a single real precision target they’ve ever managed to hit clean. It couldn’t protect their own sovereignty the nth time an invading air force showed up.

Their cep for hitting anything inside enemy territory is next to zero. look at those afghanistan precision runs big fat wide misses every single time, piles of civilian bodies and zero strategic effect. All they do is spray endless BVRs at Rmax, call it a day, then flood social media with propaganda while running straight to daddy US to save their ass from any neighbour that actually means business.

 

[CallSignMaverick]

One X post v an whole industry,, yeah,, lets compare. "Lahore Port", "MIG-21s defying gravity" Freak show is laughed at by the world.

Yeah, shaheen foundation claiming what? Sinking Vikrant, hitting S-400, jamming Indian satellites, hacking Indian electricity grid, destroying Kandla port, disrupting Indian fuel supplies, destroying President House in Delhi... drones about to hit Phalcon AEW&CS in Agra?

The hatred of Pakistan has caused Bollywood to be ridiculed when it was once respected. Even in UAE with it's massive Indian population they banned your fantasy films, many UK cinemas refuse to show them.

"Massive Indian population" more like massive pakistani diaspora who're gonna freek out against their release over there...

To convince 1.4 Billion Indians you have not been consistently militarily bested by Pakistan you are required to do this, I get that.

Bold words for someone dismembered in half... oh and by the way, when is fauji foundation gonna avenge the fitna-al hindustan? We didn't think twice after Pahalgam, meanwhile everyday in KPK/Balochistan is worse than that. Why're they scared if they can steamroll endia?

Pakistan military that has humiliated you. I get why.

Yeah humiliated in ISPR music videos

PAF pilots are piss poor trained. Not a single real precision target they’ve ever managed to hit clean. It couldn’t protect their own sovereignty the nth time an invading air force showed up.

Their cep for hitting anything inside enemy territory is next to zero. look at those afghanistan precision runs big fat wide misses every single time, piles of civilian bodies and zero strategic effect. All they do is spray endless BVRs at Rmax, call it a day, then flood social media with propaganda while running straight to daddy US to save their ass from any neighbour that actually means business.

No wonder fitna-al Hindustan roams freely while mighty fizaya is unable to stop them.

 

[Corax]

Why you shouting so loud, cherry boy? You saw the satellite scars on your own bases and still yapping about mosques? We brought the numbers because we came to break things. You spent the next 3 days watching your hangars, awacs and C2 centres get turned into scrap while your AF stayed grounded or hid. The only ass getting handed was yours, still red from the beating.

Keep crying, cherry.

Cow dung eaters spew bullshit I suppose. Your turbaned ACM claimed 2 Erieyes and 6 Vipers destroyed....prove it!

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

You're arguing with those who genuinely believe all of this is 100% real


Same bunch who'd endlessly claim "we can shoot down any and every Indian jet, we can hit any Indian target with Yiha-3, we can destroy all S-400, we can sink all Indian aircraft carriers, ships, submarines" are somehow not retaliating against India everytime "Fitna-al-Hindustan" does something and casualties go into double digits like yesterday's Fidayeen attack the way India has been doing against them.

Fauji foundation knows, their real battle is on reels and social media.

I would sincerely ask you.... if Pak. does what it has showed in that clip

what do you think would happen to scale and size of that border, if and when Pak. achieves superiority in the air?

are you ready to face this truth?


even a child can tell, it is an AI, but what about understanding implications?

going beyond, I would ask an even serious question.


how much Pak. really needs to do, cause a collapse of infrastructure in that region, where AI video is made?