Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[kobra]

Comrades, lets wait for what Iran have prepared for this round

Hmmm too much claims but little less substance... the fact that ir has so far failed to hit any naval war ship of US is frustrating...

 

[Homajon]

 

[Arash]

Does Trump talk this way about Russia, North Korea, or China? No, only against countries he doesn’t respect.

Says the man who hides in food trucks...

 

[tsunset]

Does Trump talk this way about Russia, North Korea, or China? No, only against countries he doesn’t respect.

 

[Immortals]

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

US will respect Iran only if Iran bombs US mainland

How's that going to happen? Some of us are still waiting for all those American Freedom Fighter sleeper cells you keep talking about to act up.

 

[Winthorpe]

This does not augur well

 

[SimplyTheBst]

US will respect Iran only if Iran bombs US mainland

Artemis mission to land on the moon would be an Iranian big statement.

 

[UKBengali]

Its because Iran isn't trying to win a war the IRGC is trying to survive.

If IRGC escalates, their own infrastructure can be targetted which can cause civilians to rise up and over throw them.

Therefore it makes sense for IRGC to only do minimum retaliatory strikes until they can strike a deal with a government they can trust

If Zio-US could take out Iranian infrastructure they would have done it already to bring down the regime.

The reason is that Iran showed enough deterrence but it is using a "defensive deterrent" right now.

An "offensive deterrent" will actually make Zio-US leave it alone. Yes it may lose a bit more infrastructure here and now but it gets peace at least.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

If Zio-US could take out Iranian infrastructure they would have done it already to bring down the regime.

The reason is that Iran showed enough deterrence but it is using a "defensive deterrent" right now.

An "offensive deterrent" will actually make Zio-US leave it alone. Yes it may lose a bit more infrastructure here and now but it gets peace at least.

Do you really believe that? Had the US really wanted to, every power and desalinization plant would be shut down. Every key bridge, rail hub, and communications center would be shut down.

Iran's oil and gas industry would be rubble. If the USAF can successfully put a half dozen bunker busters down the same hole, taking out a power plant is a non-issue.

That "deterrence" you talk about is mostly a myth. Yes, the US has lost a few manned aircraft with significantly more drones shot down. Yet, the USAF, USN, and IAF flew strikes all over Iran. Including I might add, strikes by the IAF against Iranian targets approximately 30 clicks or so of the Pak border.

 

[UKBengali]

Do you really believe that? Had the US really wanted to, every power and desalinization plant would be shut down. Every key bridge, rail hub, and communications center would be shut down.

Iran's oil and gas industry would be rubble. If the USAF can successfully put a half dozen bunker busters down the same hole, taking out a power plant is a non-issue.

That "deterrence" you talk about is mostly a myth. Yes, the US has lost a few manned aircraft with significantly more drones shot down. Yet, the USAF, USN, and IAF flew strikes all over Iran. Including I might add, strikes by the IAF against Iranian targets approximately 30 clicks or so of the Pak border.

Yes I do as what is stopping Trump already from destroying enough infrastructure to bring down Iranian government rather than dragging this out?

Iran proved it can accurately damage and destroy Zionist infrastructure during June 2025 and also managed to get some hits this year and we know Zio-US is severely down on interceptors.

US cannot be damaged on home soil but Trump's Zionist masters sitting in Palestine can be. That is the deterrent.


Iran is fighting for its survival and should go on offence as right now it is taking more damage by only responding.

 

[Flotilla]

Yes I do as what is stopping Trump already from destroying enough infrastructure to bring down Iranian government rather than dragging this out?

Iran proved it can accurately damage and destroy Zionist infrastructure during June 2025 and also managed to get some hits this year and we know Zio-US is severely down on interceptors.

US cannot be damaged on home soil but Trump's Zionist masters sitting in Palestine can be. That is the deterrent.


Iran is fighting for its survival and should go on offence as right now it is taking more damage by only responding.

Don't pay attention to him.
If US doesn't do It, It is because Irán reached the deterrence. No matter if It is because of the oil or because Arabs GCC asked not to bomb. But if US doesn't do It, deterrence have been achieved.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Yes I do as what is stopping Trump already from destroying enough infrastructure to bring down Iranian government rather than dragging this out?

Iran proved it can accurately damage and destroy Zionist infrastructure during June 2025 and also managed to get some hits this year and we know Zio-US is severely down on interceptors.

US cannot be damaged on home soil but Trump's Zionist masters sitting in Palestine can be. That is the deterrent.


Iran is fighting for its survival and should go on offence as right now it is taking more damage by only responding.

Perhaps it is the US showing restraint.

Seriously, stop kidding yourself. The US has shown for the most part remarkable restraint by NOT taking out the infrastructure. When we went back to Iraq under the mistaken belief we were going to finish up what we started during Shield/Storm, the first thing we did was turn a lot of the lights off and hit the comm centers.

As far as Iran and Israel mixing it up? Have it. Let them get it over and be done with it. I for once would like to see us actually sitting one or two out.

 

[Flotilla]

Don't pay attention to him.
If US doesn't do It, It is because Irán reached the deterrence. No matter if It is because of the oil or because Arabs GCC asked not to bomb. But if US doesn't do It, deterrence have been achieved.

You don't have guts...

 

[Immortals]

Perhaps it is the US showing restraint.

The only reason US is showing restraint is because when Israel/US hit energy sites. Reciprocated strikes happened on UAE, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and got the Trump panick tweeting.

Same thing happened after desalination plants were hit

Same thing happened after power plants were attempted

And then the latest “tanker for tanker” threat stopped when Iran fired 30 missiles at Jordan bases and U.S. wasted 50+ PAC-3 MSE and 20+ THAAD.

Can US hit Iranian refineries? Yes no question. I think U.S. can hit any point in Iran multiple times over.

The question is what happens when Iran hits the energy facilities in the Middle East in retribution. Or the 20-30 ships doing STS transfers off of Oman/UAE like sitting ducks. How does a full blown energy crisis that tanks the global economy help Trump?

I mean you can see what the Houthis and some rag tag Iraqi groups did Saudi Arabian oil infrastructure. Now imagine what dozens of Iranian missiles/drones everyday for 2-4 weeks would do.

Right now the U.S. is in the best position, it’s getting 10-15MBPD of product out of Middle East. It is choking Iranian economy. And it’s not in a hot kinetic war. Sure Iran targets tankers, but the amount they are disabling is a few to several a month. Small price to pay to avoid full blown energy destruction.

Right now both sides are in stand off. Trump thinks the Iranians will collapse Soviet Union style and the Iranians think eventually Trump will have to accept the MoU demands wether before or after mid terms.

Either way current situation is not sustainable for long.