BREAKING NEWS: Erdogan raises Kashmir issue at UNGA; calls for resolution as per UN resolutions

[K2RULEZ]

Nothing itd your choice, if you want, do it.. Anyway Still happening but not as compared to 20 years ego.

Pakistan has already tried this game and paid a very high price for it. Now, if another attack happens in Kashmir, they can't simply claim that it was carried out by Kashmiri freedom fighters, as they used to openly support that narrative almost 20 years ago. These days, the only option left seems to be calling it a “false flag” operation.

So, do you really believe Pakistan will go back to that old policy? Because I know Pakistan has already paid a very high cost for pursuing it.

Pakistan is still here despite your Hindutva doomsday warnings. You will be dead and Pakistan along with Gilgit-Baltistan will be here.

The joke is really on the Hindutva that have been dreaming about breaking Pakistan and what not.

 

[drkrn86]

Nothing its your choice, if you want, do it.. Anyway Still happening but not as compared to 20 years ego.

Pakistan has already tried this game and paid a very high price for it. Now, if another attack happens in Kashmir, they can't simply claim that it was carried out by Kashmiri freedom fighters, as they used to openly support that narrative almost 20 years ago. These days, the only option left seems to be calling it a “false flag” operation.

So, do you really believe Pakistan will go back to that old policy? Because I know Pakistan has already paid a very high cost for pursuing it. And situation has changed around the world after 9/11.

A good example of the consequences of the same policy can still be seen along Pakistan's border with Afghanistan. If Pakistan had not supported such groups in the past, it might have had a much more stable relationship along that border today, perhaps more similar to the situation between Iran and Afghanistan.

They will support terrorism or else they will face anger of their own public/military

 

[Thinking_Hard]

Please look at a map before speaking. We forcibly snatched half of your occupied princely state from its incubator.

This is unique perspective indeed. Who knew we had Kashmir and we "lost" half of it.

 

[K2RULEZ]

Please look at a map before speaking. We forcibly snatched half of your occupied princely state from its incubator.

That is why you have been whining about China's post-BRICS summit behaviour too.

Why India is irked by a new Pakistan-China border pact

A China-Pakistan border pact challenges India's territorial claims and deepens strategic concerns over disputed Kashmir.

www.bbc.co.uk

As i asked your colleague before, if all of this is simply "hot air", then why are you all here to enforce Gen Bakshi's position on the matter?

It is hilarious that those that literally got carved up by outsiders are taunting others about losing land. The irony couldn't never any worse.

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

Pakistan is still here despite your Hindutva doomsday warnings. You will be dead and Pakistan along with Gilgit-Baltistan will be here.

The joke is really on the Hindutva that have been dreaming about breaking Pakistan and what not.

India never want Pakistan to get collapse or wipeout.. We wish Pakistan stay safe as a country, we don't want to deal with Taliban and such rulers from Afghanistan... Pakistan is a much better country for us compared to them.

 

[Surya2023]

Kashmir issue will it be resolved in near future mostly NO. Even when modi, sharif and Erdogan under the soil. Most of us won’t be alive I guess. The easiest resolution is make it IB get over with it. You keep what you have and we keep what we have. Let the people get on with their lives in both areas and let them have peace and prosperity. If they have achieved nothing in 70 years they are not going to win anything.

My wish for Indian Kashmir is to have good schools, good hospitals, good roads and entertainment. If only wishes had wings and may Kashmiris live in peace.

 

[K2RULEZ]

India never want Pakistan to get collapse or wipeout.. We wish Pakistan stay safe as a country, we don't want to deal with Taliban and such rulers from Afghanistan... Pakistan is a much better country for us compared to them.

If you don't mind me saying, I don't believe nor trust India.

Actions speak louder than words. Pakistan has on many occasions overtly and covertly approached India to settle issues. The response has not been encouraging.

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

If you don't mind me saying, I don't believe nor trust India.

Actions speak louder than words. Pakistan has on many occasions overtly and covertly approached India to settle issues. The response has not been encouraging.

Settlement for what? Handover Kashmir to Pakistan? That was never realistic, and I don't see it becoming realistic in the future.

India tried peaceful talks even after Kargil, but eventually it became clear that neither side was willing to compromise on its territorial claims. After decades of selling dreams to their own people, neither government can easily reverse its position.

So any dialogue is only realistic if neither side demands territory from the other. Otherwise, perhaps maintaining the status quo and focusing on development is more practical than endless talks.

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

Kashmir issue will it be resolved in near future mostly NO. Even when modi, sharif and Erdogan under the soil. Most of us won’t be alive I guess. The easiest resolution is make it IB get over with it. You keep what you have and we keep what we have. Let the people get on with their lives in both areas and let them have peace and prosperity. If they have achieved nothing in 70 years they are not going to win anything.

My wish for Indian Kashmir is to have good schools, good hospitals, good roads and entertainment. If only wishes had wings and may Kashmiris live in peace.

Kashmir issue will it be resolved in near future mostly NO. Even when modi, sharif and Erdogan under the soil. Most of us won’t be alive I guess. The easiest resolution is make it IB get over with it. You keep what you have and we keep what we have. Let the people get on with their lives in both areas and let them have peace and prosperity. If they have achieved nothing in 70 years they are not going to win anything.

My wish for Indian Kashmir is to have good schools, good hospitals, good roads and entertainment. If only wishes had wings and may Kashmiris live in peace.

Exactly. In the nuclear era, nothing is going to be fundamentally changed through endless conflict.

The best long-term solution, in my view, would be to accept the LoC as the permanent border and then create a special travel-permission system for the people of Jammu and Kashmir on both sides.

People could be allowed to travel across the border under a controlled system, with proper document verification and time-limited permits, restricted to the Jammu and Kashmir region, including Pakistan-administered Kashmir and Gilgit-Baltistan.

Beyond that, both sides should simply focus on improving living standards, infrastructure, employment and economic opportunities for their own people. Instead of spending decades trying to change borders, the priority should be improving the lives of the people who actually live there.

People can fight and have discussions on development etc. ... Not this shity old things that can't change

 

[Jaeger]

Ultimately, the Kashmir issue will be resolved at battlefield because both nations are not going to give up during peace times.

I won’t be surprised if the Kashmir issue will cause annihilation of 80% population of South Asia including both Pakistan and India

That is fairly likely. But still Pakistan won't get Kashmir.

There is no convivable scenario military or otherwise where Pakistan ends up with Kashmir.

 

[poetess]

You are a brave woman, and an idealist at the same time. The world would be a better and fairer place if there were more people like you.

I am interested in the current situation in Kashmir, is the Indian Hindutva government altering the region's ethnic and religious makeup by systematically settling hindu people from the rest of India there? Is there pressure on Kashmiris to leave the region similar to the pressure faced by Indian muslims, and to a lesser extent Dalits and Adivasis in the rest of India? Will Kashmiris remain the ethnic majority in Kashmir or will they become a minority?

Thankyou.

India's conducted what I refer to as "vote fixing". Kashmiris historically have hated the current regime with minimal turnout at elections. Their original plan was identical to the Israeli one for Palestine. They revoked Article 370 unilaterally and without discussion with the Kashmiris. This has not helped India buy the affections of the Kashmiris as they had intended. During my last contact with Kashmir, India was busy in redevelopment, taking up lands that historically belonged to Kashmiris. Objections to these plans became voices in the wilderness. Kashmiris have a loud voice. India's silenced everything from the media to social networking. Its its a bit like switching of Kashmiris completely unless they align and agree with the Indian regime. Anyone raising their voice is fired from employment or arrested. These days no one has any idea how many innocent people are imprisoned. Mr RSS Sin-ha is busy ruling Kashmiris with an iron hand.

India now continues to gloat about connectivity, is running roughshod over Kashmiri lands and building railways and roads. In the meantime, ruining the fragile environment by cutting lots of trees making the place more vulnerable to the perils of climate change.

In the interim, the Kashmiri media is reduced to talking about the weather. Kashmiris suffer in silence. Pakistan Foreign Office makes a few statements. Turkey bleats on and India continues to hold Kashmiris in the largest open air prison in the world.

You are a brave woman, and an idealist at the same time. The world would be a better and fairer place if there were more people like you.

I am interested in the current situation in Kashmir, is the Indian Hindutva government altering the region's ethnic and religious makeup by systematically settling hindu people from the rest of India there? Is there pressure on Kashmiris to leave the region similar to the pressure faced by Indian muslims, and to a lesser extent Dalits and Adivasis in the rest of India? Will Kashmiris remain the ethnic majority in Kashmir or will they become a

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[poetess]

Better than nothing said?

Not really.

Its lip service. An irritation. Something unproductive that disappoints victims of India's severe oppression.

 

[Yasser76]

Don't worry, my friend. I said it's a yearly drama during the UN meetings.

The hugs are completely different — those will continue in parallel.

Well, many Muslim-majority countries have given Modi their highest national honours in recent years. It does make you wonder how seriously they actually take the Kashmir issue beyond their formal OIC statements.

Anyway, they are expected to do their part during the OIC meetings. We understand that. It's part of the routine.

Well nothing to discuss since no surprised here.. Same song with new music every year. It's kind of now - yearly drama, everyone plays their roles

Well it seemed to wind you up and wind up the Indian MEA that they started crying at the OIC, funny heh?

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

Well it seemed to wind you up and wind up the Indian MEA that they started crying at the OIC, funny heh?

Statement fron Indian side, also part of this yearly drama... You can find similar statements from Indian side in the pasts as well...

 

[Yasser76]

Statement fron Indian side, also part of this yearly drama... You can find similar statements from Indian side in the pasts as well...

Well no, in the past India was trying to muscle in on the OIC and hoping to change it's stance on Kashmir with allies within it. That has failed after many years. Lets not try and paint another Indian diplamatic failure as "routine", although in fairness these failures are becoming frequent, specially after may last year