YT Debate: China's lack of war experience is its greatest weakness. ?

[Kaveri Engine]

We are waiting all this time for the fools to make the move to snatch away Tibet like 1962. You people will have everything in your delusional wet dreams, lol. Be prepared your shithole country will be blown into pieces then.

1962 war was not a war fought to annex Tibet; it was a limited India–China border conflict. Another serious armed confrontation took place in 1967 at Nathu La and Cho La,

In the 1967 clashes, Indian sources put Chinese losses at 340 killed and 450 wounded. The U.S. Institute of Peace gives a much wider historical estimate of 36–790 Chinese casualties

 

[Kaveri Engine]

Indians are genetically low IQ and weak people who have spent most of their history being ruled by others. The idea that India can capture any land is hilarious. Truth is India will be balkanised within the next 20-30years due to AI, fake ecoonomy, no uniting culture/language, no technology and living conditions that make hell look like paradise.

If India wasn't such a sucker and buying all of Chinas junk tier items (higher tier items go to first world nations), China would have balkanised India by supporting separatists and maoists insurgency years ago

In the mind of an indian you must know how insecure they are.
Indians have to live in delusion because otherwise how will they face the fact of Chinese being:
- much higher IQ
- 100x better infrastructure
- much fairer skin (indians care the most about this)
- much higher gdp per capita
- much longer life spans
- 100x better at sports such as olympics
- Dominates maths/chemistry/physics olympiads and PISA scores
- technological dominance vs no tech in India

And the list goes on and on. If u were an Indian you would retreat to delusions too to COPE

If you seriously think anyone in India or anywhere else in the world takes your Chinese-made tofu weapons seriously, keep living in that delusion.

Indian military knows exactly what China can actually manufacture, what it can actually deliver, and how much of what Beijing advertises is nothing more than propaganda.

 

[Pioneer]

1962 war was not a war fought to annex Tibet; it was a limited India–China border conflict. Another serious armed confrontation took place in 1967 at Nathu La and Cho La,

In the 1967 clashes, Indian sources put Chinese losses at 340 killed and 450 wounded. The U.S. Institute of Peace gives a much wider historical estimate of 36–790 Chinese casualties

Bro, I can even show you photos of Indians signing the surrender document in 1967 and raising a white flag to collect the bodies of Indian soldiers..

 

[Pioneer]

If you seriously think anyone in India or anywhere else in the world takes your Chinese-made tofu weapons seriously, keep living in that delusion.

Indian military knows exactly what China can actually manufacture, what it can actually deliver, and how much of what Beijing advertises is nothing more than propaganda.

You mean that although the Indian military doesn't know when Tejas will be delivered, they have a better understanding of what China manufactures and delivers?

Bro, you fit the traditional impression of East Asian countries towards India.

 

[retaxis]

If you seriously think anyone in India or anywhere else in the world takes your Chinese-made tofu weapons seriously, keep living in that delusion.

Indian military knows exactly what China can actually manufacture, what it can actually deliver, and how much of what Beijing advertises is nothing more than propaganda.

So much inferiority complex lol
You indians are hilarioius, even 4.5gen J-10c destroyed indian rafales and su30mkis, What do u think 6th gen J-36 would do? Its magic to your low IQ brains

India already close to being balkanised and now millions of indian graduates can't even get jobs anymore lol

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[retaxis]

Supapowa no technology and laughing stock of the world still begging for Chinese tech

China maintains a massive global and bilateral trade surplus of 1.2trillion, whereas India runs a persistent structural trade deficit, particularly with China. [1]

Global Trade Surplus

• • China: Operates a record-shattering global trade surplus, recently topping $1.2 trillion annually driven by dominance in manufacturing, electronics, and high-tech goods. [1, 2]
  • India: Historically runs an overall global trade deficit because its merchandise imports consistently outweigh its merchandise exports, though partially cushioned by a strong services trade surplus. [1]

Bilateral Trade Dynamics (India-China)

• • Trade Deficit for India: In the fiscal year 2025–26, India's trade deficit with China swelled to a record $112.16 billion. [1]
  • Imports vs. Exports: India's FY26 imports from China reached $131.63 billion, while India's exports lagged far behind at $19.47 billion. [1]
  • Key Sectors: China primarily exports high-value electronics, integrated circuits, machinery, and active chemicals to India, while India largely supplies raw materials and intermediate goods like iron ore, petroleum products, and engineering

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

Agreed on the thread topic.

Russia is improving its military technologies based on lessons learned from actual combat experience. For example, the Su-57 has reportedly been used in real-world combat environments, giving Russian engineers valuable operational feedback that can be incorporated into further improvements.

The US has a similar advantage, although I hate to say it: the US has been involved in military operations around the world for decades. That gives its armed forces continuous experience in testing, adapting and refining technologies under real operational conditions.

China's biggest disadvantage, in my view, is that many of its advanced military technologies have not yet been tested in a large-scale modern war. We can assess specifications, exercises and demonstrations, but it is difficult to know with certainty how some systems would actually perform under real combat conditions.

Ultimately, there is a significant difference between technology being tested and technology being combat-proven.

 

[retaxis]

China has biggest disadvantages are, their most of the technology, still unproven and no one sure how it will perform during the real war scenarios

Thats the dumbest low IQ comment i read today lol. How is opponents not having a scouting report on you a disadvantage? China has been studying and watching what US does and fights for generations aka scouting report while US has no Idea what China can do.

J-10C also seems pretty proven against your Rafales and SU30mkis lol

 

[retaxis]

Learn some history of Chinas fighting ability vs united states

Battle of the Ch'ongch'on River - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The Battle of the Ch'ongch'on River was a major conflict in the Korean War from November 25 to December 2, 1950, where Chinese forces dealt a heavy defeat to United Nations troops in northwestern North Korea. [1, 2]

Overview

• • Dates: November 25 to December 2, 1950.
  • Location: Ch'ongch'on River Valley in northwestern North Korea.
  • Key Leaders: Douglas MacArthur led the United Nations forces, and Peng Dehuai led the Chinese forces. [1, 2]

What Happened

• • The Advance: General Douglas MacArthur ordered an offensive to expel Chinese troops and end the war quickly.
  • The Trap: Chinese commander Peng Dehuai gathered a large army for a secret counteroffensive.
  • The Attack: Chinese forces launched a sudden night attack on November 25, hitting the weak right flank of the United Nations line.
  • The Retreat: United Nations troops lost their positions and had to make a long, difficult retreat to the south. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6]

Results

• • Casualties: United Nations forces suffered over 11,000 losses, while Chinese forces faced heavy losses as well.
  • Outcome: Communist forces pushed the United Nations troops back south of the 38th Parallel. [1]

 

[mythbuster]

Final verdict ! There will be no war between Taiwan and China .... Taiwan will go back to China the way Hong Kong went back....both Chinese and Taiwanese are rational actors and Taiwan's economic future is tied with china .

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

Thats the dumbest low IQ comment i read today lol. How is opponents not having a scouting report on you a disadvantage? China has been studying and watching what US does and fights for generations aka scouting report while US has no Idea what China can do.

J-10C also seems pretty proven against your Rafales and SU30mkis lol

I know you will not accept this point, because you seem to believe that China has the most superior technology. So, let's leave the this debates aside.

But not everyone is under the control of the Chinese government. People are free to express their views based on what they see and observe around them.

I cannot make you understand this, but there is a 100% difference between a controlled environment and a real war environment.

For example, a US Navy aircraft carrier can spend more than 300 days at sea during an operational deployment. That kind of real-world operational experience cannot be gained simply by sailing ships near your own territorial waters.

There is a huge difference between operating in a controlled environment and operating continuously in real-world conditions, where crews and systems face unpredictable situations, logistical challenges, weather, maintenance issues, and operational pressure.

 

[Kaveri Engine]

You mean that although the Indian military doesn't know when Tejas will be delivered, they have a better understanding of what China manufactures and delivers?

Bro, you fit the traditional impression of East Asian countries towards India.

Tejas is delayed because Indian Air Force will not accept it unless its performance matches the capabilities expected of modern 4th-generation fighter jets like the Rafale. I am not talking about range or payload, as these vary depending on the platform and configuration being used. I am talking about overall operational performance. By the time Tejas is inducted, its capabilities will be at par with the Rafale and other modern 4th-generation platforms.

Tejas is far more important for the Indian Air Force because it is intended to be its workhorse. This is much more valuable than inducting a namesake 5th-generation fighter merely for show, as China does with some of its platforms. Indian Air Force will induct systems that are proven to work on the battlefield, not platforms meant for propaganda.

same applies to AMCA. Even if it makes its first flight next year, induction will happen only when the Indian Air Force is fully satisfied and testing and certification have been completed beyond doubt. Indian government cannot force Air Force to induct a platform. Things in India do not work the way they do in China.

 

[retaxis]

I know you will not accept this point, because you seem to believe that China has the most superior technology. So, let's leave the this debates aside.

According to ASPI i am correct but Indian delusions will dismiss facts like usual.

https://www.aspi.org.au/news/aspis-critical-technology-tracker-june-2026-data-refresh/

Key findings:​

• China leads in 69 of 74 technologies—a position consistent with the March 2026 update, and a clear signal of a structural shift underway in global technological power.
• China has strengthened its lead—with AI hardware and accelerators and biological manufacturing upgraded from intermediate to high monopoly risk.
• Brain–computer interfaces remain China-led but have been downgraded from high to intermediate monopoly risk.
• The United States has strengthened its lead in neuroprosthetics, now carrying a high monopoly risk in favour of the US—a reminder that concentration risk is not exclusively a China story.

For example, a US Navy aircraft carrier can spend more than 300 days at sea during an operational deployment. That kind of real-world operational experience cannot be gained simply by sailing ships near your own territorial waters.

There is a huge difference between operating in a controlled environment and operating continuously in real-world conditions, where crews and systems face unpredictable situations, logistical challenges, weather, maintenance issues, and operational pressure.

And How does that change the fact that America has never seen China in action while China has been training and studying america for generations? Last time China fought america, china forced americas greatest retreat in their countries history.

The longest retreat in United States military history is the 120-mile (190 km) withdrawal of the U.S. Eighth Army and United Nations forces down the Korean Peninsula in late 1950. [1, 2, 3]

Key Facts

• • Distance: About 120 miles (190 to 195 kilometers).
  • Timeframe: November and December 1950.
  • Location: North Korea back down to the 38th Parallel.
  • Conflict: The Korean War. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

What Happened

• • The Advance: General Douglas MacArthur led United Nations troops deep into North Korea and neared the border of China.
  • The Intervention: China sent hundreds of thousands of troops to counter the advance during the Battle of the Ch'ongch'on River.
  • The Retreat: Overwhelmed forces had to fight their way through freezing weather and heavy enemy fire to pull back safely. [1, 2, 3, 4]

 

[retaxis]

According to ASPI i am correct but Indian delusions will dismiss facts like usual.

https://www.aspi.org.au/news/aspis-critical-technology-tracker-june-2026-data-refresh/

Key findings:​

• China leads in 69 of 74 technologies—a position consistent with the March 2026 update, and a clear signal of a structural shift underway in global technological power.
• China has strengthened its lead—with AI hardware and accelerators and biological manufacturing upgraded from intermediate to high monopoly risk.
• Brain–computer interfaces remain China-led but have been downgraded from high to intermediate monopoly risk.
• The United States has strengthened its lead in neuroprosthetics, now carrying a high monopoly risk in favour of the US—a reminder that concentration risk is not exclusively a China story.

And How does that change the fact that America has never seen China in action while China has been training and studying america for generations? Last time China fought america, china forced americas greatest retreat in their countries history.

The longest retreat in United States military history is the 120-mile (190 km) withdrawal of the U.S. Eighth Army and United Nations forces down the Korean Peninsula in late 1950. [1, 2, 3]

Key Facts

• • Distance: About 120 miles (190 to 195 kilometers).
  • Timeframe: November and December 1950.
  • Location: North Korea back down to the 38th Parallel.
  • Conflict: The Korean War. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

What Happened

• • The Advance: General Douglas MacArthur led United Nations troops deep into North Korea and neared the border of China.
  • The Intervention: China sent hundreds of thousands of troops to counter the advance during the Battle of the Ch'ongch'on River.
  • The Retreat: Overwhelmed forces had to fight their way through freezing weather and heavy enemy fire to pull back safely. [1, 2, 3, 4]

America is finding it nearly impossible to compete with China due to white demographic collapse, 40+tn in debt, end of petro dollar and massive political instabiility. We watching everything unfold from Africa to the Western hemisphere watching the shit show with great amusement.

Meanwhile Indians won't even have jobs coming out of college and become beggers and farmers with useless IT and computing degrees.

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[chinasun]

China's drone production accounts for 70% of the world's total. Launching 50,000 drones and 1,000 missiles a day, we can reduce the targets to ruins. What experience is needed for that?