Iran launches Operation True Promise - massive missile/drone strikes across Israel, Israel allegedly responds with quadcopters

[KingQamaR]

You can't build a nuclear warhead just by
" Uranium"
You also need " Plutonium"

 

[JaneBhiDoYaaron]

Nope it is not that simple.

A single nuclear test will have crossed the “threshold” and make Iran immune to Zionist/Western military attack.

The reason is that NO ONE could be sure how many more nukes and associated delivery systems Iran has. A single Iranian missile with a nuclear warhead could finish off the Zionist entity and there is no way the Zionists/US could take that risk.

Like I said already, if Iran has the bomb, it should carry out a test now and say it is to keep the peace in the region.

For clarification it will finish Israel, West Bank and Gaza and probably lot more near by.

 

[UKBengali]

For clarification it will finish Israel, West Bank and Gaza and probably lot more near by.

Nuclear bombs are not as indiscriminate as people think.

Settlements such as Tel Aviv and Netanya could be precisely wiped with single nuclear warheads with little to no harm to Gaza Strip and West Bank.

We are not talking about monster 10MT thermonuclear warheads here.

 

[JaneBhiDoYaaron]

Nuclear bombs are not as indiscriminate as people think.

Settlements such as Tel Aviv and Netanya could be precisely wiped with single nuclear warheads with little to no harm to Gaza Strip and West Bank.

We are not talking about monster 10MT thermonuclear warheads here.

Understood but yet is more than direct impact. I would worry more about after effects.

Anyway Iran should be ready for nuclear retaliation, which I’m not sure Israel has it or not. There is no guarantee once you start with nuclear that other party will only play miniature bombs.

 

[Tehrani021]

Nope it is not that simple.

A single nuclear test will have crossed the “threshold” and make Iran immune to Zionist/Western military attack.

The reason is that NO ONE could be sure how many more nukes and associated delivery systems Iran has. A single Iranian missile with a nuclear warhead could finish off the Zionist entity and there is no way the Zionists/US could take that risk.

Like I said already, if Iran has the bomb, it should carry out a test now and say it is to keep the peace in the region.

It is very much that simple, especially for a (percieved by the zionist) "regional pariah" like Iran. It would be foolish to assume that Israel and the west would not call Iran's bluff if it only had 2 or 3 nuke during a nuke test. Iran would get destroyed for only building and using only 2 or 3 nukes which may be a price a non-Iranian like you is happy to pay, but not us who hold more value to our nation. Different story if Iran has a sizeable arsenal which would destroy a few nations and entire naval forces. An no, a single nuke wouldnt destroy Israel, it would wipe out a city at best.

 

[UKBengali]

It is very much that simple, especially for a (percieved by the zionist) "regional pariah" like Iran. It would be foolish to assume that Israel and the west would not call Iran's bluff if it only had 2 or 3 nuke during a nuke test. Iran would get destroyed for only building and using only 2 or 3 nukes which may be a price a non-Iranian like you is happy to pay, but not us who hold more value to our nation. Different story if Iran has a sizeable arsenal which would destroy a few nations and entire naval forces. An no, a single nuke wouldnt destroy Israel, it would wipe out a city at best.

Again how would they know for sure?

Look into a crystal ball to tell them?

 

[UKBengali]

Understood but yet is more than direct impact. I would worry more about after effects.

Anyway Iran should be ready for nuclear retaliation, which I’m not sure Israel has it or not. There is no guarantee once you start with nuclear that other party will only play miniature bombs.

We need to take a step back.

If anything happens it will be purely conventional and Iran has the advantage over the entity occupying Palestine for multiple reasons.

 

[Tehrani021]

Again how would they know for sure?

Look into a crystal ball to tell them?

Because of intelligence and well known knowledge of how much enriched uranium Iran has. Think a bit more deeply instead of accusing others of simplicty.

 

[UKBengali]

Because of intelligence and well known knowledge of how much enriched uranium Iran has. Think a bit more deeply instead of accusing others of simplicty.

Yes “well known” of course and intelligence is always accurate as well.

You need to listen to other viewpoints more and then form opinions rather than jumping to premature conclusions.

Nuclear weapons are an absolute game changer and no one would mess with a Iran that showed that it had at least a single working nuclear warhead.

 

[Tehrani021]

Yes “well known” of course and intelligence is always accurate as well.

You need to listen to other viewpoints more and then form opinions rather than jumping to premature conclusions.

Nuclear weapons are an absolute game changer and no one would mess with a Iran that showed that it had at least a single working nuclear warhead.

Yes well known and with the amount of traitors in Iran you can bet there are leaks. Cope.

I do listen but that doesn't mean I have to blindly agree with whatever some random number tells me on some forum, especially when no evidence is given. I suggest you and everyone one else do the same.

Building strawman arguments about the benefits of nukes is just you clutching at straws. So I won't indulge.

 

[JaneBhiDoYaaron]

We need to take a step back.

If anything happens it will be purely conventional and Iran has the advantage over the entity occupying Palestine for multiple reasons.

Agree with you that if both countries have nuclear weapons threshold to actual use it very very high.

I am not sure about advantages Iran has in conventional war as it is too far and only Hamas and Hizbollah are not enough and neighboring countries are not interested in getting involved in direct war with Israel.

For conventional war, Iran has great drone and missiles but Israel iron dom is very efficient and Israel has way better air force. Navy is non existent for both countries.

 

[Xerxes22]

There are some serious idiots in here, who have the time to say absolute nonsense and make stupid accusations on others like a bunch of infants but these inbreds don't have time to do basic research on whats happening and whats been happening on the ground over the last decades.

Here are the facts:

Israel is a psychopathic entity ,which you can count on to do the absolute worst and unimaginable things and they might as well get away with it. I have already seen chatter of Israel infact attacking Iran first to stop Iran from giving its response. Whilst others are speculation that If Iran is able to give a significant response and destroy Israel aerial defence capacity to a major extent then Israel will retaliate with nukes enacting the samson option.

Considering the actions of this psychopathic entity in the past and in present, and the way it gets away with everything that it does, with not much if any opposition even from the UN, it's not beyond imagining that the scenario mentioned would not take place. It very well could happen. It has already happened with Japan and it could happen to Iran. This probability can not be slept on and accepted.

But consider otherwise, If Iran does a nuclear test and is in possession of nuclear weapons then I can guarantee my balls that Israel would soon vanish into nothing and would never dare to think about or mention nuking Iran. It would if not nothing GUARANTEE (its not small word)... I say it again GUARANTEE, the safety and security of the Iranian people and the state.

To be fair with everyone, You know wat the most DEVASTATING response to Israel's strike on the consulate would be? Even without any military retaliation? It would be announcing possession of Nuclear Weapons officially and a subsequent Test. That in itself would be 100x time more of a response than any military strike by Iran on Israel.

And these are the ABSOLUTE FACTS.

 

[UKBengali]

Agree with you that if both countries have nuclear weapons threshold to actual use it very very high.

I am not sure about advantages Iran has in conventional war as it is too far and only Hamas and Hizbollah are not enough and neighboring countries are not interested in getting involved in direct war with Israel.

For conventional war, Iran has great drone and missiles but Israel iron dom is very efficient and Israel has way better air force. Navy is non existent for both countries.

Air forces are useless as the two are 1000kms apart. Iran is a huge country and even if the Zionists manage to reach there overflying multiple countries, flying the vast distances within Iran and hitting anything strategic is another matter.

Iran has an absolute advantage in missiles and in conjunction with its allies in Lebanon, Syria and Iraq will overwhelm air defences of the Zionist entity.

Reason why hint of nuclear retaliation was made is that the entity knows that one on one, Iran could absolutely cause massive damage to it and they cannot do much to Iran due to lack of offensive missile capability and much larger size and population of Iran.

See how the Zionists are panicking and crapping themselves as they know that Iran now has the motive and justification to deal them a very punishing blow.

 

[Hack-Hook]

AWACS supported fighters have the advantage of superior information, which then allows better tactics and use of resources. If you are flying based on your own equipment only then you are going to be playing reactively the whole time based on what your instruments are telling you.

Ground based information is not as good as air based information because radar operate in straight lines and there are a lot of things that can interfere with it on (and fromthe ground.) In the air things are much clearer and therefore range is greatly improved.

Finally although you will need to defend your AWACS assets, it moves around, which is a lot harder to destroy than ground based facilities that don’t move around (or vehicle based ones which move around slowly).

there are radars that are not bound by line of sight

 

[KingQamaR]

Nuclear bombs are not as indiscriminate as people think.

Settlements such as Tel Aviv and Netanya could be precisely wiped with single nuclear warheads with little to no harm to Gaza Strip and West Bank.

We are not talking about monster 10MT thermonuclear warheads here.

Nukes aren't toys., They are real and armed and ready by the nations that possess them. It's best for nations not to flirt with the chance of a nuclear attack, even if it seems very unlikely. North Korea is a great example. They are constantly being monitored and if they launched an actual nuke, they would be destroyed very swiftly.