Iran launches Operation True Promise - massive missile/drone strikes across Israel, Israel allegedly responds with quadcopters

[r3alist]

It is very much that simple, especially for a (percieved by the zionist) "regional pariah" like Iran. It would be foolish to assume that Israel and the west would not call Iran's bluff if it only had 2 or 3 nuke during a nuke test. Iran would get destroyed for only building and using only 2 or 3 nukes which may be a price a non-Iranian like you is happy to pay, but not us who hold more value to our nation. Different story if Iran has a sizeable arsenal which would destroy a few nations and entire naval forces. An no, a single nuke wouldnt destroy Israel, it would wipe out a city at best.

If you go for nuclear attack I suppose you have to game out retaliations, other reactions and net results, so this thinking described makes sense.

Even if you do have nuclear weapons it really just acts as a deterrent in the very worst possible scenarios like overwhelming invasion.

If that's not happening you actually need to focus on the usual conventional aspects of defense.

Btw, let's supposedly Iran did get nukes, it did posture intent to strike, I can't see Pakistans nukes also not being a target for removal.

 

[Hack-Hook]

You can't build a nuclear warhead just by
" Uranium"
You also need " Plutonium"

wrong

 

[Tehrani021]

If you go for nuclear attack I suppose you have to game out retaliations, other reactions and net results, so this thinking described makes sense.

Even if you do have nuclear weapons it really just acts as a deterrent in the very worst possible scenarios like overwhelming invasion.

If that's not happening you actually need to focus on the usual conventional aspects of defense.

Btw, let's supposedly Iran did get nukes, it did posture intent to strike, I can't see Pakistans nukes also not being a target for removal.

This "lets nuke this and that" and "lets test nukes" are from flame bating trolls who want to see Iran destroyed. I personally think Iran should silently develop nukes and use them as a second strike option or if the state is under threat, like Russian doctrine. Setting off a nuke just to sabre rattle is desperate, pathetic and will backfire, especially when there is no contingency for the response.

The response has to be conventional, officially announced and from Iranian territory.

 

[r3alist]

This "lets nuke this and that" and "lets test nukes" are from flame bating trolls who want to see Iran destroyed. I personally think Iran should silently develop nukes and use them as a second strike option or if the state is under threat, like Russian doctrine. Setting off a nuke just to sabre rattle is desperate, pathetic and will backfire, especially when there is no contingency for the response.

The response has to be conventional, officially announced and from Iranian territory.

What do you think of the letting things play out approach on Israel?

Everyone always has in their mind some final reckoning battle but in reality these things play out in time and end on a gradual path.

Look at the current situation of Israel internally and it's external relations, too much to list but if you really do a birds eye view I think the embassy attack was desperate and an attempt to shift the global focus on to baddie Iran, there is actually some mild sympathy and understanding for why Iran might be outraged, also concurrently matched with the aid workers being taken out, again it's own actions.

A lot of the Israeli population have second options, with further pressures they will think about them more.

internally Israeli will very quickly be dominated with a younger insular orthodox and eschatologically minded population from demographic change, I think that will make Israel more undesirable to future generations in the West.

 

[Khorasan Black Flags]

I don't agree with most posts of @Immortals & @Hack-Hook

However it's unfair to use too many laugher meme if you don't agree with posts of your opponents

 

[Khorasan Black Flags]

You can't build a nuclear warhead just by
" Uranium"
You also need " Plutonium"

Nuclear bombs can be built with different methods including uranium and heavy water

 

[Persian Gulf]

You can't build a nuclear warhead just by
" Uranium"
You also need " Plutonium"

that... is not true...

 

[Persian Gulf]

Unnecessary insults and trolling will not be tolerated. It is not difficult to post respectfully, even to those you disagree with.

 

[Tehrani021]

There are some serious idiots in here, who have the time to say absolute nonsense and make stupid accusations on others like a bunch of infants but these inbreds don't have time to do basic research on whats happening and whats been happening on the ground over the last decades.

Here are the facts:

Israel is a psychopathic entity ,which you can count on to do the absolute worst and unimaginable things and they might as well get away with it. I have already seen chatter of Israel infact attacking Iran first to stop Iran from giving its response. Whilst others are speculation that If Iran is able to give a significant response and destroy Israel aerial defence capacity to a major extent then Israel will retaliate with nukes enacting the samson option.

Considering the actions of this psychopathic entity in the past and in present, and the way it gets away with everything that it does, with not much if any opposition even from the UN, it's not beyond imagining that the scenario mentioned would not take place. It very well could happen. It has already happened with Japan and it could happen to Iran. This probability can not be slept on and accepted.

But consider otherwise, If Iran does a nuclear test and is in possession of nuclear weapons then I can guarantee my balls that Israel would soon vanish into nothing and would never dare to think about or mention nuking Iran. It would if not nothing GUARANTEE (its not small word)... I say it again GUARANTEE, the safety and security of the Iranian people and the state.

To be fair with everyone, You know wat the most DEVASTATING response to Israel's strike on the consulate would be? Even without any military retaliation? It would be announcing possession of Nuclear Weapons officially and a subsequent Test. That in itself would be 100x time more of a response than any military strike by Iran on Israel.

And these are the ABSOLUTE FACTS.

None of what you said makes any sense and is designed to destroy Iran. Idiot, inbred and stupid could easily be levied at yourself and others who make such destructive comments. Everything you said is your own opinion which you think we should confuse with fact. The reality is Iran will become more isolated and in more danger if it anounced it has nukes and removes the element of surprise.

Still waiting on your verifiable evidence that Iran can effectively strike Israel from outside Iran.

 

[Tehrani021]

I don't agree with most posts of @Immortals & @Hack-Hook

However it's unfair to use too many laugher meme if you don't agree with posts of your opponents

Have you not seen the amount of laughing emojis @Hack-Hook does for others? Can't be throwing stones from glass houses. If their comments are more like jokes then that's what the emoji function is there for.

 

[Tehrani021]

What do you think of the letting things play out approach on Israel?

Everyone always has in their mind some final reckoning battle but in reality these things play out in time and end on a gradual path.

Look at the current situation of Israel internally and it's external relations, too much to list but if you really do a birds eye view I think the embassy attack was desperate and an attempt to shift the global focus on to baddie Iran, there is actually some mild sympathy and understanding for why Iran might be outraged, also concurrently matched with the aid workers being taken out, again it's own actions.

A lot of the Israeli population have second options, with further pressures they will think about them more.

internally Israeli will very quickly be dominated with a younger insular orthodox and eschatologically minded population from demographic change, I think that will make Israel more undesirable to future generations in the West.

Yes, patience is definitely a virtue. However I firmly believe that when a sovereign nation allows others to attack it without response, then it does show weakness and allow more brazen attacks and will threaten more lives. May Allah curse the state of Israel, however that does not mean that one should just allow injustice and violence to occur unchecked.

 

[Xerxes22]

But when members call others here inbred and idiots, you give them a like.

I have absolute respect for the guidance of brother @Persian Gulf. There has been too many personal attacks. There is no need to be assumptous about each others identity and intentions without being absolutely sure. For your own consideration, I would like to assure you that even though we may as well disagree on Iranian policy issues, you and both have the common interest in the safety and well being of Iran

Also, Id like to point out that If the moderators @Waz @RescueRanger check the thread from the beginning that I wasnt the one who started all the personal attacks. My identity have been question. I have been called a troll, Its been stated that Im being paid by certain groups. I have also been called a Munafiq directly by you. And you also accused me of being British.

I also want to point out that I took the initiative of ignoring you still but you kept pushing at me. All in all, I want the matter put to bed. Im not your enemy. So lets settle that for god's sake.

 

[Persian Gulf]

if anyone has an issue with a post you can report it (there were no reports here lately despite all the childish back and forth insults), and if you have an issue with moderation you can take it to GHQ instead of polluting this thread with your complaints. such posts will be removed as this thread is not the place to raise them.

I have absolute respect for the guidance of brother @Persian Gulf. There has been too many personal attacks. There is no need to be assumptous about each others identity and intentions without being absolutely sure. For your own consideration, I would like to assure you that even though we may as well disagree on Iranian policy issues, you and both have the common interest in the safety and well being of Iran

Also, Id like to point out that If the moderators @Waz @RescueRanger check the thread from the beginning that I wasnt the one who started all the personal attacks. My identity have been question. I have been called a troll, Its been stated that Im being paid by certain groups. I have also been called a Munafiq directly by you. And you also accused me of being British.

I also want to point out that I took the initiative of ignoring you still but you kept pushing at me. All in all, I want the matter put to bed. Im not your enemy. So lets settle that for god's sake.

thank you for understanding. instead of fighting each other like children lets keep to the topic and be constructive and respectful

 

[Tehrani021]

I have absolute respect for the guidance of brother @Persian Gulf. There has been too many personal attacks. There is no need to be assumptous about each others identity and intentions without being absolutely sure. For your own consideration, I would like to assure you that even though you may as well disagree on Iranian policy issues, you and both have the common interest in the safety and well being of Iran

Also, Id like to point out that If the moderators @Waz @RescueRanger check the thread from the beginning that I wasnt the one who started all the personal attacks. My identity have been question. I have been called a troll, Its been stated that Im being paid by certain groups. I have also been called a Munafiq directly by you. And you also accused me of being British.

I also want to point out that I took the initiative of ignoring you still but you kept pushing at me. All in all, I want the matter put to bed. Im not your enemy. So lets settle that for god's sake.

I correctly called you out for your persistant troll comments which were designed to put Iran into greater danger. It was you who began calling me mentally retarded and so on. So you got as good as you gave. What is unacceptable is when a moderator is encouraging one user to break the rules but has an iron fist with others, simply because they agree with what the former says.

I dont know who you are and what you believe in. I maintain my doubts about you and your intentions, and you won't stop me from refuting anyone and neither should this stop you from doing the same.

 

[Tehrani021]

if anyone has an issue with a post you can report it (there were no reports here lately despite all the childish back and forth insults), and if you have an issue with moderation you can take it to GHQ instead of polluting this thread with your complaints. such posts will be removed as this thread is not the place to raise them.


thank you for understanding. instead of fighting each other like children lets keep to the topic and be constructive and respectful

Earlier we called @Waz to the section and he banned a user. He never told us off for not going GHQ. Unfortunately I have used the function and nothing gets done. Others have noticed this. So when we @ the senior team things seem to get done.