The Greek islands are in the range of artillery.
BrahMos: Greek Experts Pitch Indo-Russian Supersonic Cruise Missile To Checkmate S-400 Armed Turkey
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Pingle
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Yes but same way Turkish coastal line is also in the range of Greek artillery from these islands.....
For a war you need logistics. Those island are not self sustainable. If tommorow war broke out first thing which will be hit will be these islands..
Hope peace prevails in the region..
Sarsilmaz
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Foinikas
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Not so unlikely anymore I'm afraid. I'll explain in the thread I want to make.
@hyperman You gotta check it out too. Unfortunately,MMM-E's dreams of superiority are coming true,not because of the stuff he says,but because our government has been acting completely illogical when it comes to defence. I'll post and tag you too
lacy
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tag me, too.
Foinikas
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I'm trying to tag but it's not working,do we still use @ before the nickname here?
Yes.
nahtanbob
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Well if India can get natural gas concessions in East Mediterranean what better way to rub it to the TurksThe fact that you are too weak that you couldn't explore extract oil & gas alone in east Mediterranean (Cyprus) sea region, (ofcourse coz of turkey)and had to come to India to work with you..
Indias inclusion with Israel, Greece and Cyprus in energy partnership
and you still think you're government is dumb to sign pact with india..
India invited to be part of Israel-Cyprus-Greece trilateral summit
India has been invited to be a part of the next trilateral summit involving Israel, Greece, and Cyprus. In a joint press conference on Monday (Sept 4), Greek Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis said that the country is interested in natural gas exports partnership with countries such as India...www.wionews.com
So youre government isnt dumb it's just TOO WEAK that it can't even extract gas from its own region. No wonder u guys lost Constantinople, whole Anatolia to Turks.. oops Istanbul sry...View attachment 32142
nahtanbob
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logistics advantages are great. at the end of the day Turks need air superiority to provide cover to Turkish troops to occupy those islands
Sarsilmaz
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Before you talk about the Turkish economy you have to know and understand the Turks.
Short introduction to Turkish culture and tradition
Turks are a proud and nationalistic people.
Faith and nationalism are the cornerstone of their existence.
Faith teach them:
Islam says, soldiers who die in war for God and faith are martyrs.
And martyrs are promised entry into paradise.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahid
Nationalism teach them:
(Your right to live is as much as your strength to fight.)
As already mentioned, Turks are raised to be nationalistic from an early age. The Turkish national anthem written by Mehmet Akif Ersoy"Albanian" is a reflection of their personality.
Fear not, the crimson flag, waving in these dawns will never fade
Before the last hearth that is burning in my nation vanishes.
That is my nation’s star, it will shine;
That is mine, it belongs solely to my nation.
Oh coy crescent-(Turkish Flag), do not frown for I am ready to sacrifice myself for you!
Please smile upon my heroic nation, why that anger, why that rage?
If you frown, our blood shed for you will not be worthy.
Freedom is the right of my nation who worships God and seeks what is right.
I have been free since eternity, and free shall I be.
What fool dares to shackle me? I defy the temerity!
I am like a roaring flood; I overflow trampling down my banks,
I tear apart mountains, surge into depths, and surpass.
Western horizons may be encircled by walls armored in steel
But I have my chest brimful of faith as my homeland’s frontier.
Let it howl, fear not! How can it smother such solid faith
That single-fanged monster, “Civilization!” as you call it?
My friend! Never ever let the dastards into my land!
Render your body a shield; bring this heinous raid to an end.
For soon shall break the blissful days God promised, for sure;
Perhaps tomorrow, who knows, perhaps even sooner than that.
Do not assume what you tread on is mere “earth”, recognize it!
Think of the thousands, without shrouds, lying beneath.
You’re the son of a martyr, take shame, hurt not your ancestor;
Cede not this heavenly homeland, even if it’s the worlds you’re granted.
Who would not offer his life for this homeland of paradise?
Martyrs would pour forth, all martyrs, should one simply clutch the earth!
If God will, He may take my life, my beloved, and my wealth,
But may He not, for the world, just deprive me of my homeland.
The sole wish of my soul, oh glorious God, from You is that,
No heathen would ever, on the bosom of my temple, lay hand!
These calls to prayer, whose testimonies are the ground of religion,
Should resound far and wide over my eternal homeland.
Then, my tombstone, if any, prostrates in rapture a thousand-fold,
Of my every wound, oh glorious God, tears of blood gush forth,
And out spurts my corpse, in pure spirit, from the ground,
Perhaps then, shall ascend and to the heavens touch my crown!
So ripple and wave, like dawning skies, oh glorious crescent-(Turkish Flag),
So that every drop of my blood finally be blessed and worthy!
Neither you nor my race shall ever be annihilated,
For my flag, who has lived ever freely, has the right to liberty;
For my nation, who worships God, has the right to independence!
In Short:
The fight and death for faith and homeland Gives;
The family honor, pride, recognition.
And paradise for the Soldier.
Anyone who sends their children to the army to celebrate is also prepared to give up everything for faith and nation.
Now to the economy:
About 40% of Turkish foreign trade is with EU countries.
In a Tr-Gr conflict, Turkey would be subject to an EU trade bargo.
Trade with the EU would shrink dramatically.
The tourism sector would suffer extreme losses.
The Turkish economy would suffer but not collapse.
An embargo would be the only help Greece would receive from the EU.
You're right brozzer but to fight a war you need logistics without logistics no faith & nationalism could help..
If you don't have enough revenue & taxes to fund war you're not gonna supply with enough logistics.. war is very very costly.
Coming back to economy. If you're economy isn't stable on first place fighting a war is like final nail in the coffin..
And most important thing turkey is not food independent.. this alone has so many implications at home as well as at frontline...
I know nationalism and all everybody is a nationalist and can die for his motherland I'm gonna prepare for exams of military soon btw..
Anyways But without supplies, logistics secured you cannot win a war..
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If we had 10000 Brahmos
Then Why would the government make a big announcement about recent order for 220+ Brahmos Block 4 for the navy
These 220 missiles will cost us Rs 20000 crores
You can do the maths
India has both capital to invest as well as huge demand to fullfill.. we also don't want to depend on qataris..
This is obviously win win for all the parties involved...
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Sarsilmaz
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Turkey is food independent
Everyone only sees the high amounts of grain imports. It is not seen that Turkey is the world's largest exporter of flour and one of the largest exporters of pasta and baked goods. The high tonnages of grain imports are raw materials for goods that are exported.
Export 2023 -5.4 million tonnes of flour, 1,5 million tonnes pasta,2,2 million tonnes baked goods....etc
https://www.world-grain.com/articles/18796-turkish-flour-exports-projected-to-set-recordhttps://www.reuters.com/markets/com...rkey-its-durum-wheat-flows-abroad-2024-03-28/
Turkey had a GDP of over $1 trillion in 2023.
Adjusted at PPP, that was $3.8 trillion.
https://www.worldeconomics.com/Indicator-Data/Economic-Size/Revaluation-of-GDP.aspx
Since everything can be done domestically, the money stays domestically. The Turkish state is also the owner of the largest weapons manufacturer, so it gets everything at the manufacturing price.
https://militaryppp.com/blog/
As you can see, Turkey should not be underestimated.
