Iran launches Operation True Promise - massive missile/drone strikes across Israel, Israel allegedly responds with quadcopters

[Abid123]

The myth that Israel is invincible has been shattered.

It's nothing more than a paper tiger.

 

[Dalit]

It's nothing more than a paper tiger.

Ever since 7th October Israel looks like a bunch of amateurs. Any proper decent army will run over and overwhelm IDF.

 

[Ali_Baba]

UN Security Council meeting begins in 40 minutes. Let's see if Israel tries making a case for a attack on Iran. That will tell us if they're actually considering it or not.

I dont think the world wants to make the same mistake they did on oct 7 again now, and "over support" Israel. That level of public support led to Genocide by Israel ..... China and Russia will stop anything that looks like it gives ground to Israel interms of providing cover for an attack on Iran. The UK/USA/France stopped the condemnation of the attack on the Iranian Embassy in the first place, so i am expecting something similar now.

 

[Shadihassan28]

Yes, but you can’t have people like this in power. They are easily compromised by foreign governments - especially the west and Zionist

Dude you can say that pretty much about all of those so-called leaders and it has nothing to do with their ancestry as I said before look out for a big payday soon for the Jordanians

 

[the saint]

I couldn't care less about Israelis, Palestinians, or iranians. If they all want to kill each other, so be it. The point is the Iranian attack failed to inflict any real damage to the Israelis, and now gives netanyahu the excuse he's been looking for.

then why you are in a forum about Iranian military? that means you care and your lies are exposed

 

[WildApache]

Well played Iran it was beautiful to watch the European homeless squatters squirm and cry .

Mod edit: Kindly avoid general insults against Arabs and moderators

 

[That_Guy]

just yesterday captured Israhelli ship... what did you do other than undermining resistance? .. zionist boot licker

It wasn't an Israel ship, by the way.

It was Portuguese, with a multinational crew, and only partially owned (through shares) by an Israeli billionaire who doesn't even live in Israel, he lives and operates his company from Monaco.

Answer his points instead of insulting him.

 

[Persian Gulf]

I don't think it failed. It looked like a warning and nothing more. Israeli defenses are seemingly severely depleted. Iran has shown it has more than enough munition to overwhelm Israeli defenses and positions.

Even with the US's help, Israel will be in major trouble if they push Iran further.

And that's not me being some sort of Iran fanboy, I think Iran needs to be careful because it might be biting off more than it can chew.

Few points to consider:

• Iran's strikes were spread across Israel (not concentrated at any one area)
• Iran did not follow up with subsequent waves of BMs
• Iran effectively gave Israel 8+ hours of warning time by leading with UAV strikes (and firing BMs much later)

In this scenario, Iranian MRBMs had c. 5-10% success rate.

Now imagine a different scenario:

• Iran leads with MRBMs not drones, with only 6-8 minutes from launch to arrival in Israel
• Iran focuses all MRBM strikes against one part of Israel (e.g. south Israel / Negev, which is less well defended than central areas)
• Shortly after initial wave of c. 100 MRBMs, Iran quickly follows up with another wave of c. 100 MRBMs at the same area within 30 minutes, arriving before Israel can reload ABM systems (Arrow takes 1 hour to reload)

In this scenario, what can we infer about the likely success rate of Iranian MRBMs in the first wave? And in the second wave?

Other permutations:

• Israel retaliates, creating more intense escalation --> Iran continues to fire waves of c. 100 MRBMs into Israel
• How long until Israel's ABM shield is depleted and thus seriously degraded?
• Hezbollah decides to enter and uses its own SRBMs in sync with Iran, adding a new attack vector and helping to deplete Israeli ABM capability

Now I am not naive enough to think Israel cannot cause serious damage to Iran's infrastructure and economy, but I just want to explore some options for Iran to put yesterday's alleged success rate into context.

 

[GoMig-21]

I couldn't care less about Israelis, Palestinians, or iranians. If they all want to kill each other, so be it. The point is the Iranian attack failed to inflict any real damage to the Israelis, and now gives netanyahu the excuse he's been looking for.

While I do agree with you, the lack of actual zionist casualties notwhistanding, you have to acknowledge the psychological impact a total of 300+ missiles headed in that direction has had on the psyche of all the squatters & occupiers. Some historian put more value on the psychological impact of certain military operations than the actual results. It only means that the next time these weapons could very well get through, the devastation will be 100x worse with much more casualties. That's the flip side of the coin with respect to what Iran was able to accomplish here, despite the way the zionists and zionist-influenced media are portraying it as a victory for the zionist criminals.

The other factor is that this is the result of 2 high-ranking Iranian military personnel being killed by the zionist in Syria; imagine what the retribution will be should the zionist have the nerve to strike Iran proper?

 

[Persian Gulf]

It wasn't an Israel ship, by the way.

It was Portuguese, with a multinational crew, and only partially owned (through shares) by an Israeli billionaire who doesn't even live in Israel, he lives and operates his company from Monaco.

Answer his points instead of insulting him.

That's how all ships work these days, the ultimate owner of the ship was Israeli though and this was admitted by Israeli sources very quickly. The flag the ship chooses to fly is meaningless.

 

[Falcon29]

Iran: Marandi: Iran will respond to any strike on its facilities or officers anywhere, even if it is in Lebanon or Syria.

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[Shadihassan28]

I don't think it failed. It looked like a warning and nothing more. Israeli defenses are seemingly severely depleted. Iran has shown it has more than enough munition to overwhelm Israeli defenses and positions.

Even with the US's help, Israel will be in major trouble if they push Iran further.

And that's not me being some sort of Iran fanboy, I think Iran needs to be careful because it might be biting off more than it can chew.

Honestly they were hyping how America had all those fighters in the air can you imagine if iran had sent out a dozen or more waves which I’m sure they could have done most of us knew that this wasn’t the showdown of the this decade yet it was going to be a nice light show with some material damage I like picture of a road supposedly getting a direct hit with just some minor cracking

 

[AverageJoe]

Do we have reliable figures on number of Iranian BM fired? I saw the 110-120 figure, but did Iran publish any official figures?

 

[the saint]

The zionist supporters and resistance haters are in denial here... Iran failed in retaliation, they didn't capture Israeli ship.....

 

[That_Guy]

Few points to consider:

• Iran's strikes were spread across Israel (not concentrated at any one area)
• Iran did not follow up with subsequent waves of BMs
• Iran effectively gave Israel 8+ hours of warning time by leading with UAV strikes (and firing BMs much later)

In this scenario, Iranian MRBMs had c. 5-10% success rate.

Now imagine a different scenario:

• Iran leads with MRBMs not drones, with only 6-8 minutes from launch to arrival in Israel
• Iran focuses all MRBM strikes against one part of Israel (e.g. south Israel / Negev, which is less well defended than central areas)
• Shortly after initial wave of c. 100 MRBMs, Iran quickly follows up with another wave of c. 100 MRBMs at the same area within 30 minutes, arriving before Israel can reload ABM systems (Arrow takes 1 hour to reload)

In this scenario, what can we infer about the likely success rate of Iranian MRBMs in the first wave? And in the second wave?

Other permutations:

• Israel retaliates, creating more intense escalation --> Iran continues to fire waves of c. 100 MRBMs into Israel
• How long until Israel's ABM shield is depleted and thus seriously degraded?
• Hezbollah decides to enter and uses its own SRBMs in sync with Iran, adding a new attack vector and helping to deplete Israeli ABM capability

Now I am not naive enough to think Israel cannot cause serious damage to Iran's infrastructure and economy, but I just want to explore some options for Iran to put yesterday's alleged success rate into context.

I guess we'll be finding out the answer to that soon, that's if Netanyahu decides to strike Iran and escalate further.

Iran has the largest stockpile of BMs in the world (that we know of), but how many of them are capable of reaching Israel from Iran? Would Iran move the shorter range BMs into Syria to decrease range? In this case, Israel would have the chance the bomb them before Iran can launch them.

Too many unanswered questions.