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[tsunset]

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At the end of the day, Patarames is just a online talking head (with some type of engineering background). However, I have seen him be wrong before and corrected by those with much extensive engineering backgrounds respond to him. Like when he made the “heat shield” comment that was throughly debunked by someone who appeared to have a vast knowledge around rockets.

Patarames is just a online talking head

Exactly, nothing else, he doesn't work or is a member of IRGC or any army corps, the only thing they can do is have a look at satellite pics, but good luck because commercial ones are nearly $10000 for a single picture

An engineering background, in what? All of them have no qualifications to talk about IRGC or missiles, they just have a good knowledge and make assumptions which are only their opinions

He is reliable concerning Iran and knowledge like Amir, but again they are not some kind of magicians or insiders knowing exactly how the attack was carried out

They are still way more reliable than the osint trash list
https://twitter.com/Safarnejad_IR
𝐄𝐡𝐬𝐚𝐧 𝐒𝐚𝐟𝐚𝐫𝐧𝐞𝐣𝐚𝐝 will be added into the trash list as soon as he does another fake claim

 

[guangdongt]

I saw a video on social media in China about the Kheibar Shekan ballistic missile hitting Israel. The missile is undergoing terminal maneuvers, and it is rare for ballistic missiles to be captured for terminal maneuvers. Can you introduce the specific situation of the Kheibar Shekan missile, its level in Iran's ballistic missiles, and whether there are specific pictures of the missile itself

 

[TallGuy]

I saw a video on social media in China about the Kheibar Shekan ballistic missile hitting Israel. The missile is undergoing terminal maneuvers, and it is rare for ballistic missiles to be captured for terminal maneuvers. Can you introduce the specific situation of the Kheibar Shekan missile, its level in Iran's ballistic missiles, and whether there are specific pictures of the missile itselfView attachment 34508View attachment 34509View attachment 34510

So that means Khybar shikan was used for sure. I saw the interview when the attack was happening the lady did confirm that they have used some Khybar shikan as well.

it looks like package! different missiles and counter measures deployed.

 

[guangdongt]

So that means Khybar shikan was used for sure. I saw the interview when the attack was happening the lady did confirm that they have used some Khybar shikan as well.

it looks like package! different missiles and counter measures deployed.

It is impressive, with slow motion footage showing the missile making a maneuver from tilt to horizontal and then to tilt at the end of its imminent impact. Iran's counterattack against Israel has sparked strong interest in Iran's ballistic missiles, which is a highlight of the counterattack

 

[Hack-Hook]

I saw a video on social media in China about the Kheibar Shekan ballistic missile hitting Israel. The missile is undergoing terminal maneuvers, and it is rare for ballistic missiles to be captured for terminal maneuvers. Can you introduce the specific situation of the Kheibar Shekan missile, its level in Iran's ballistic missiles, and whether there are specific pictures of the missile itselfView attachment 34508View attachment 34509View attachment 34510

kheybar-shekan is previous generation of fateh missile family (3rd generation). after it next generation was hyper-sonic fattah-1 and this is the missile

range: 1450km
length: 10.5m
Diameter- 0.8m
weight:4500kg
warhead:500kg
maximum speed (outside atmosphere) :13 mach
impact speed : 3 mach
it was first unveiled 2 years ago and since last year is being produced . the missile first use was 3 month ago against ISIS


by the way the maneuver you see in that video is nothing , there is a video around that show it can actually go up and while doing so change its trajectory in another plane

 

[Mehdipersian]

It is impressive, with slow motion footage showing the missile making a maneuver from tilt to horizontal and then to tilt at the end of its imminent impact. Iran's counterattack against Israel has sparked strong interest in Iran's ballistic missiles, which is a highlight of the counterattackView attachment 34511View attachment 34512

The name Khybar shekan is also important.

In persian language, it means the destroyer of " Khybar".

Khybar was one of the Jewish fortresses in Arabia that was conquered by the Muslims.

It seems that this missile was specially made to hit Israel

 

[Hack-Hook]

The name Khybar shekan is also important.

In persian language, it means the destroyer of " Khybar".

Khybar was one of the Jewish fortresses in Arabia that was conquered by the Muslims.

It seems that this missile was specially made to hit Israel

well in fact Iran at unveiling for two weapon system announced they are specifically designed for Israel
one was Kheybar-Shekan another one was Arash-2 UAV

 

[Flotilla]

Now he is standing next to the Iranian missile booster and says Israel intercepted it
View attachment 34324

Yeah I did with my hands...

 

[MS Sandhu]

Multiple missiles throughout the country, including 3D VHF radars and/or OTH radars inside western China and satellites in space could get their chance to detect the F-35 in full stealth mode, at a relatively known time.

Data could be shared with Iranian SAM batteries (and Chinese or Russian batteries on loan) to see what they are able to do.

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I read an article by AviationWeek with topic name:
"The State Of Stealth"
After reading about the race b/w Stealth & Radars,I can safely assume that Russian & Chinese modern radars are nowhere near detecting & engaging Stealth Fighters from safe range let alone Iranian Radars to do the job.

Iran's best bet is offence after the strike by F-35.
I will recommend instead of Watching YouTube Videos,read this article (attached)
VHF radars are overhyped. even if they detect F-35 they can't provide enough targeting data to X-Band fire control radars of SAMs & Fighter Aircrafts.

 

[Hack-Hook]

A read an article by AviationWeek with topic name:
"The State Of Stealth"
After reading about the race b/w Stealth & Radars,I can safely assume that Russian & Chinese modern radars are nowhere near detecting & engaging Stealth Fighters from safe range let alone Iranian Radars to do the job.

Iran's best bet is offence after the strike by F-35.
I will recommend instead of Watching YouTube Videos,read this article (attached)
VHF radars are overhyped. even if they detect F-35 they can't provide enough targeting data to X-Band fire control radars of SAMs & Fighter Aircrafts.

why you think those sam need their x-band radar to engage incoming target

 

[MS Sandhu]

why you think those sam need their x-band radar to engage incoming target

"why not build every radar for lower bands? Because they are less accurate at lower frequencies"
From the article i attached.
Plz care to read the article.There is significant technical discussion and i am sure you will be satisfied and all of your queries will be answered.

 

[jauk]

I don’t believe so:

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At the end of the day, Patarames is just a online talking head (with some type of engineering background). However, I have seen him be wrong before and corrected by those with much extensive engineering backgrounds respond to him. Like when he made the “heat shield” comment that was throughly debunked by someone who appeared to have a vast knowledge around rockets.

Yeah, I keep hearing conflicting info. It might be based on UPGRADED Rezvans with a different name?

 

[FuturePAF]

I read an article by AviationWeek with topic name:
"The State Of Stealth"
After reading about the race b/w Stealth & Radars,I can safely assume that Russian & Chinese modern radars are nowhere near detecting & engaging Stealth Fighters from safe range let alone Iranian Radars to do the job.

Iran's best bet is offence after the strike by F-35.
I will recommend instead of Watching YouTube Videos,read this article (attached)
VHF radars are overhyped. even if they detect F-35 they can't provide enough targeting data to X-Band fire control radars of SAMs & Fighter Aircrafts.

Thanks for the share. It’s a two prolonged approach. Radars of different bandwidths as close as possible, but inside political secure locations.

Sure the radars can’t do it from a “safe distance” but if the radars in the same town as the target, inside a plausible deniable RF transparent dome (with some architectural flare , Russian onion domes for example) and inside the walls of a Russian consulate or embassy, Israel would not dare attack it, one would expect …

This radar site could then share data with whom ever it wants. At the very least the Russians could refine their technology.

The Russians could also fly CAPs over the southern Caspian with their A-100 AWACS. Lots of Land based long range IRST sensors could also their part in detecting the F-35 in the different bands of light.

It’s an all of the above approach to see what works and keep refining the technology.

 

[MS Sandhu]

Thanks for the share. It’s a two prolonged approach. Radars of different bandwidths as close as possible, but inside political secure locations.

Sure the radars can’t do it from a “safe distance” but if the radars in the same town as the target, inside a plausible deniable RF transparent dome (with some architectural flare , Russian onion domes for example) and inside the walls of a Russian consulate or embassy, Israel would not dare attack it, one would expect …

This radar site could then share data with whom ever it wants. At the very least the Russians could refine their technology.

The Russians could also fly CAPs over the southern Caspian with their A-100 AWACS. Lots of Land based long range IRST sensors could also their part in detecting the F-35 in the different bands of light.

It’s an all of the above approach to see what works and keep refining the technology.

Detection is possible but with significant effort.But is it enough?
Engaging F-35 from safe distance _ here is the problem
And we are discussing only one aspect of F-35_ the stealth
F-35's Electronic Warfare and other sensor technologies are also top notch in the world.
And these can further create troubles for the adversaries

US navy have employed some tactics to counter J-20 or Su-57 level stealth Fighters but it will significantly complexify our discussions.
If anyone wants,he can read the article I attached above.

 

[Zarathustra]

So how do the F35s get to Iran & back?
Or F15/F16 etc