Setting Sail in the Eastern Mediterranean: A Comparative Analysis of Egyptian MEKO-200EN and Turkish İstif Class Frigates

You are still distinguished by possessing the capabilities of strategic stupidity that you cannot overcome. You still talk about the future and dreams and say that we will be superior in the future.

We are talking about the present. The leaders of your country came to Egypt weaker than it was and forced it to do so

You naively talk about equipment, some of which was developed by design and some of which is experiments, and you turn all your real weaknesses into strength through dreams and illusions.

Where do the Turkish aircraft carriers serve in your imagination, in the right side of your little brain? Where do your fifth-generation fighters and KIZILELMA drones serve in the Air Force? The bed you sleep on, and this is the intelligence of what you list, like any salesman who sells cheap breast milk. He does not care about propaganda. He who forces another to carry out his desires is humiliating. The other has two years to accept dealing with him. You know that whoever came to implement Egypt’s conditions is your president and your regime. We are in a world that only respects the strong, and the weak are the ones who come on their knees.
You do not have real or realistic superiority, nor do you have any respectable, non-politicized global strategic studies center

You are forgetting a very important thing. We said Turkey will collapse economically and you are still suffering and cannot get out. Rather, the valuations are that your currency will collapse and its value will gradually decrease, and you have a big problem. All of your products have components imported from abroad, so keep your large exports and your imports larger because all your production inputs are imported, in addition to energy. It is the reason for your economic weakness, which you are trying to get out of. Your businessmen, why are they fleeing to Egypt? Because your economic situation cannot be weaponized. Therefore, in the future, you will not be able to build a strong army or a strong economy. You are talking about future projects.

Therefore, your words are worthless. You say, for example, that you have ships carrying more air defense missiles than the Egyptian ones. Where do these missiles and batteries serve? Their tests have not been completed. What is the idiocy that you spread and make you think that we, like you, are limited in mind and thought?

In one of the comments, you brag about your strategic yachts and your submission to America. You say that the value of 23 billion dollars is to develop 270 aircraft, and this is a lie. Rather, buy 40 new aircraft and develop 80, and you yourself published programs worth 2 billion dollars to develop Turkish F-16 aircraft with your alleged Özgür program for 150, and you dissolve and integrate this development. In an exaggerated deal worth 23 billion dollars, it says that the 23 billion dollars includes 950 AMRAAM missiles and some guided bombs. Should you not be ashamed of this nuclear deal?
And you explain that you are a liar and that your projects are simply fictitious. Why does Turkey buy AIM-120C8 missiles and you have a Turkish air-to-air missile whose price is a third of the price of an American missile? And why do you buy American bombs when you produce American guided bombs and in the same way you produce the SOM missile? So either your projects are fictitious or you are lying and deceiving.

You simply do not understand the value of $23 billion distributed over the sale of 400 J-10C aircraft.

What is the value of the EUROFIGHTER TYPHOON plane? Spain and Germany bought the plane at a price of 100 million dollars, and Egypt offered them the plane at a price of 125 million dollars for the price of 24 planes. That is, a limited deal in the case of purchasing large numbers of planes. The price drops by 20%. So who is the player who buys 40 F-16BLOCK 72 planes? He develops 80 and buys ammunition with this number to develop aircraft that will serve him for 20 years and their level is much lower than fighters such as the EUROFIGHTER TYPHOON or RAFALE. Therefore, what is considered pride is a failed and naive deal and a bribe to America to lift the sanctions on you and be satisfied with you in exchange for 23 billion dollars. Will the amount of 23 billion dollars raise the level of the Air Force? Or does it make it weaker than other air forces that have better aircraft and equipment? Have you not yet understood that you are escaping from reality to islands of dreams and science fiction programs and mixing things up with each other to hide your weakness, your failure and your true weakness?
Bro.if you want to talk about present military situation Between turkey and egypt,your country's military is complete shit compare to turkey.imagine having a airforce without any modern bvr capability,a navy who bought ships anything she see in her sight without any doctrine,a army whose conscripts soldiers only duty is to guard the army run factories.yes. I m talking about egyptian military.an utterly disgusting military wants to compare itself to Turkey's nato standard military.
 
Sure it is. It's not a combined gun & missile unit like your GOKDENIZ, but it's a rapid-firing gun for any approaching threat including sea-skimming missiles. Combined with the MICA-NG makes it a complete system, just not an all-in-one unit. It has other choices for anti-ship missiles.

Sure İts not a CIWS but Its an automatic cannon like Turkish STOP 25mm cannon

GOKDENIZ is a CIWS like American PHALANX


But I thought you got the source codes from the US? Wasn't that a big ordeal Türkiye was asking for them to integrate its domestic weapons onto its F-16 for a long time and the US wouldn't do it but finally agreed to supply them? So why is that still an issue? Why are they not allowing them on the Viper upgrade?

USA alloved Turkiye to use indigenous Missiles-Guided Bombs on F-16 block40s
( by gaining access to an interface called the Operational Flight Program )

Also Turkiye modernize 35 F-16 Block30s with indigenous Systems including mission computer and software to use indigenous Missiles-Guided Bombs

And F-16 Block50 / 50+ Fighter Jets will be modernized with indigenous systems under the OZGUR upgrade program to use indigenous Missiles-Guided Bombs


So 119 F-16s
79 VIPER modernized F-16s and 40 new F-16V will use AIM-120C7 , AIM-120C8 and AIM-9x air to air Missiles and SLAM-ER Cruise Missiles , HARM anti radiation Missiles also JDAM guided Bombs


and over 150 OZGUR modernized F-16s will use indigenous GOKDOGAN-BOZDOGAN-GOKHAN air to air Missiles , SOM - KUZGUN -CAKIR Cruise Missiles , AKBABA anti-radiation Missile and HGK-KGK-LGK-TEBER-NEB guided Bombs
 
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BTW, check this out from Global Naval Powers Ranking. Indonesian Navy ranked 4th! @Indos
Türkiye @10th, Egypt @13th, Algeria @15th ( @Chakib Larbi ), Greece @22 ( @Foinikas ) ( Pakistan @29th and the demon navy @31! So much for the murderous zionist and their supa powa vegan/environmentally friendly military.

This list is trash ... as of 2024 Indonesian Navy is not even in top 10

only 2 modern Frigates , 13 Corvettes and 4 Submarines
Patrol Boats and old Corvettes are not effective Platforms


How can Indonesian Navy be stronger than French-British-Japanese-S.Korean Navies ?

even Turkish Navy is far stronger than Indonesian Navy
 
This list is trash ... as of 2024 Indonesian Navy is not even in top 10

only 2 modern Frigates , 13 Corvettes and 4 Submarines
Patrol Boats and old Corvettes are not effective Platforms


How can Indonesian Navy be stronger than French-British-Japanese-S.Korean Navies ?

even Turkish Navy is far stronger than Indonesian Navy

Uh oh! @Indos , get a load of this! lol What do you make of this thrashing? 😄
 
Bro.if you want to talk about present military situation Between turkey and egypt,your country's military is complete shit compare to turkey.imagine having a airforce without any modern bvr capability,a navy who bought ships anything she see in her sight without any doctrine,a army whose conscripts soldiers only duty is to guard the army run factories.yes. I m talking about egyptian military.an utterly disgusting military wants to compare itself to Turkey's nato standard military.
Hey Private Aladin! :LOL:

Are you talking about Bangladesh armed forces..guess that is all you can think of!
 
It's fine to compare weapons but here the big defining issue is that Turkey's weapons are domestically produced, where as Egypt is spending billions on imports. Assign some of that funding to a domestic base and you will make leap frogs, sure it may take longer but it is well worth it.
Turkey already had/has very capable civilian shipyards and many private companies of various sizes that support them and Turkish military shipyards go back centuries.

For example TCG Yavuz battlecruiser hits naval mines after the battles of gallipoli. How do you think she was repaired?

Many people think MİLGEM is the first modern warship to be built in Turkey this is not true at all. We've been building ships for a long time.

How is Egypt supposed to catch up to this?
 
BTW, check this out from Global Naval Powers Ranking. Indonesian Navy ranked 4th! @Indos
Türkiye @10th, Egypt @13th, Algeria @15th ( @Chakib Larbi ), Greece @22 ( @Foinikas ) ( Pakistan @29th and the demon navy @31! So much for the murderous zionist and their supa powa vegan/environmentally friendly military.

Link if you want to see the site or click on it to enlarge.

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Uh oh! @Indos , get a load of this! lol What do you make of this thrashing? 😄
Many many patrol boat with cruise missiles and huge LST fleets ready to invade countries near by and dont foget largest number of civilian roro vessels in the world that can even carry leopard tanks hehe
 
Turkey already had/has very capable civilian shipyards and many private companies of various sizes that support them and Turkish military shipyards go back centuries.

Even Ottoman Empire built the largest warship in the world in 1828

It was a three-masted three-decked 128-gunned heavy first-rate battleship
The flagship was for many years the largest warship in the world

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How is Egypt supposed to catch up to this?

Egypt bought 7 Frigates and no any future project

Turkiye produce 8 ISTIF class Frigates and 4 TF-2000 Destroyers

and 3 ISTIF Frigates under construction in 3 different Shipyards now
that means Turkiye build 3 Frigates in 3 years .....

Even if needed , Turkiye can produce 10 Frigates in 3 years
because there are 90 Shipyards in Turkiye which produce Ships up to 300 m



between 2019 and 2023 Turkish Shipyards built 9 Warships in 3 years

-- 2 HISAR class OPVs and 1 ISTIF Frigate for Turkiye
-- 3 Warships ( MILGEM ) for Pakistan
-- 2 Warships ( MILGEM ) for Ukraine
-- 1 Warship ( C-92 Corvette ) for Turkmenistan

also
99.5 m TCG UFUK Electronic Warfare Ship
106 m TCG ARİF EKMEKÇI logistics support Ship
200 m TCG DERYA Sea Supply Combat Support Ship
232 m TCG ANADOLU Amphibious Assault Ship

Even I am not talking about 249 Commercial Vessels for Turkiye and other Countries in the World
 
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What a beauty


F-515 ISTIF class Frigate
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Turkiye has developed Indigenous Sytems to break embargo on Turkiye
400 km CENK AESA Radar
16 cells MIDLAS VLS

64 x HISAR-D Block2 SAMs ... ( quad pack capability in near future )
16 x ATMACA anti-ship Missiles
1 x MKE 76 mm Naval Gun
1 x GOKDENIZ 35 mm CIWS

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Even Ottoman Empire built the largest warship in the world in 1828

It was a three-masted three-decked 128-gunned heavy first-rate battleship
The flagship was for many years the largest warship in the world
And? What happened to it?
 
I think you're overreacting a bit.
lol.bro.
I think you're overreacting a bit.
Egyptian military is an utterly disgusting.just see their defence shopping.Egyptian military seems like a kid who wants to buy anything he sees infront of his eyes.or that todler kid who changes his aim in life every night by seeing different movies.
 
Hey Private Aladin! :LOL:

Are you talking about Bangladesh armed forces..guess that is all you can think of!
lol.BD military is better than you.at least they have a doctrine.they buy according to their doctrine.if BD buy modern 4th gen fighter,they'll make sure to get full bvr capability.now tell me what's the purpose of your airforce having 220+ F-16 without any bvr??why did you even bought it??just look at Pakistan air force.what they have achieved in limited budget you can only dream about
 

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