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[tsunset]

Remind me not to enlist in wherever you're the air force commander LOL! Holy cannoli, bro.

I would like to give the Bangladeshi pilot the benefit of the doubt that he was either training for an airshow or had permission to fly at that altitude and in that manner. He most likely lost orientation which is amazing as I was just talking to @Foinikas on the F-16 thread about how the FAA and IAC banned French pilots from doing the same exact thing in their Rafales when they came to perform in the US a few years ago! Wow a coincidence now that I think about it.

Part of their routine was a brutal minimum square circle turn with two barrel rolls in-between each corner of the full square turn. FAA & IAC wouldn't allow it and after much persuasion by the French, they took the barrel rolls out of the routine and allowed only the square turn. Exactly for this same reason here; the high risk of pilot disorientation at low altitude and no time to recover.

There was another great story of when USAF pilots visited Russia for the first time after the cold war tensions were over and Russian MiG-29 pilots were taking the US pilots up for rides and to fly the aircraft. At one point the Russian pilot took the MiG-29UB down low over the airport & runway and gave the controls to the US pilot and told him to drop lower and go inverted. US pilot was like "wuuuuut" and so he dropped altitude a bit and Russian pilot said "no, more, lower" and so he did and then rolled over inverted and barely skimmed the runway loool. After they landed, he was telling the reporter that in the US, they would NEVER allow anything remotely close to a stunt like that. But he loved it LOL. Shades of Top Gun and Maverick requesting a tower fly-by but the pattern was full.

Anyone with minimal training can do that and even flying under public road tunnels and do stunts near skyscrapers

This is a daily thing that even non-pilots (even kids) can do in DCS and GTA 5

 

[Flames In The Desert]

Given that India has sent a probe to the moon, it seems highly unlikely they couldn’t build decent drones.

In fact a simple google search can you show different drones:

None of these look to be anywhere near going into service,indeed the indians appear to have found out that drones may look deceptively simple to build and develop but are in fact their own rather demanding branch of aeronautical research/design/development,which is probably why they`ve now gone for us and israeli models instead.

 

[Flames In The Desert]

Iran has been working at least since 2018 on domestic engine designs.

Rumors are a few years ago that one showed promise out of many that failed to materialize.

I think within next 2-3 years we shall see an Iranian engine. Wether it falls in RD-33 class or AL-31, remains to be seen.

I wouldn’t put too much faith in the Russians as they are notorious for not sharing ToT (ask India).

I certainly agree with you vis-a-vis the russians,always a day late and a ruble short [at best] and reliably unreliable at worst,tho one does hope that maybe,just maybe the russians may have started to wake the fvck up,who knows?
But the only feasible way that I can see iran producing an "indigenous" turbofan in say a 10 year-ish time period is if its a reverse/reengineered one.
One only has to recall the problems that both india and china had producing the kaveri and ws10,and in the case of the ws10 they used a western core as their start point.
Altho to be fair both nations began these projects back in the mid-late 80s where both the state of available technology and the state of both nations aerospace industries was a literal world away from where it is now.

 

[Immortals]

Remind me not to enlist in wherever you're the air force commander LOL! Holy cannoli, bro.

I would like to give the Bangladeshi pilot the benefit of the doubt that he was either training for an airshow or had permission to fly at that altitude and in that manner.

Low altitude is one thing, but he’s doing it around civilians you can see walking by and over a civilian airport, not sure who would authorize that but maybe Bangladesh has looser standards.

It looked like he was going to barrel roll and then land further down the runway. Not sure if he lost orientation or control. But as he was headed for the ground then basic human instinct and reflexes kicked in and he yanked the stick and hit the throttle to near max power (given the size of the exhaust flame).

Basically a lot of a luck and knee jerk human instinct. I’m sure if you were headed to the ground at high speed in a plane you would also yank the stick.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Remind me not to enlist in wherever you're the air force commander LOL! Holy cannoli, bro.

I would like to give the Bangladeshi pilot the benefit of the doubt that he was either training for an airshow or had permission to fly at that altitude and in that manner. He most likely lost orientation which is amazing as I was just talking to @Foinikas on the F-16 thread about how the FAA and IAC banned French pilots from doing the same exact thing in their Rafales when they came to perform in the US a few years ago! Wow a coincidence now that I think about it.

Part of their routine was a brutal minimum square circle turn with two barrel rolls in-between each corner of the full square turn. FAA & IAC wouldn't allow it and after much persuasion by the French, they took the barrel rolls out of the routine and allowed only the square turn. Exactly for this same reason here; the high risk of pilot disorientation at low altitude and no time to recover.

There was another great story of when USAF pilots visited Russia for the first time after the cold war tensions were over and Russian MiG-29 pilots were taking the US pilots up for rides and to fly the aircraft. At one point the Russian pilot took the MiG-29UB down low over the airport & runway and gave the controls to the US pilot and told him to drop lower and go inverted. US pilot was like "wuuuuut" and so he dropped altitude a bit and Russian pilot said "no, more, lower" and so he did and then rolled over inverted and barely skimmed the runway loool. After they landed, he was telling the reporter that in the US, they would NEVER allow anything remotely close to a stunt like that. But he loved it LOL. Shades of Top Gun and Maverick requesting a tower fly-by but the pattern was full.

the fool , tried to do a roll at what altitude under 40m?
as a result he lost altitude and hit ground at very fast speed and he was lucky to hit ground with belly and as result bounce back up because of its speed and low angle it hit ground and he hit ground with flat surface of the airplane not with one wing for example .
but all said that hitting ground seriously damaged what was in lower side of aircraft and as result it exploded seconds later.

the accident was 100% on the pilot nobody else and he must pay for his reckless move, to get 5 min of fame.

Starting from level flight, the pilot pitches the aircraft up about 10 to 30 degrees above the horizon, into a brief climb. The purpose of pitch-up is twofold. This causes an increase in altitude which minimizes altitude loss and airspeed gain.[2] As the aircraft begins to roll, it starts to lose lift. When the wings are vertical, the only lift generated is a small amount from the fuselage, and the aircraft will begin to lose altitude. The brief climb compensates for the loss, allowing the aircraft to complete the roll at the same altitude the maneuver began. When the aircraft is completely inverted, the increased pitch results in greater angle of attack, enabling the inverted wing to generate lift.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Mass re-produced F-5 are also quite handful , with modernized software and weapon's package

However I think Sukhoi-35 would help stabilize the region a bit

Russia made a error by not arming up Syria and Iran by proper fighter jets , if they had done it , likely the world would be stalemate as it was in 1980's


>Sukhoi-35
>F7PG (China) or J10

Could help boost Iran airforce so regional airforce balance is maintained

 

[Hack-Hook]

Daring Bangladeshi pilots check out the speed & altitude they were flying that thing and attempting a barrel roll. Didn't go so well but credit the pilot for trying to save the aircraft and good thing they both appear to have survived.

that's not a barrel roll, this is a barrel roll

 

[muhammed45]

Russia lost some airforce fighter jets in the war though, but the # of losses isnt too high or unrecoverable.

Because they are producer of fighter jets hence recoverable in their case.

Ukrainian airdefense systems were taken out by other means such as suicide drones and loitering munitions.

We haven't seen how these Russian fighters would perform against US 5th generation aircraft in a real world scenario, its all theoretical for now IMO.

But we saw what happened in Iran Iraq war.

A dumbfuck like Saddam could have gone high on other countries' propaganda but in Iran we have count on facts.

THen why is Iranian govt chasing these planes by signing a purchase agreement with Russia for them?

Because it will not be more than an airdefense layer. Iran will at the very least spend 3 billion dollars on SU-35. Imagine what could HESA do with all that money.

Local plans should be on priority.

Other than SU-57, I personally have no interest in Russian jets. And I don't think Russia will introduce it to international markets anytime soon.

Hopefully this headache ends and someone tell us the money is gone for local plans.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Hopefully this headache ends and someone tell us the money is gone for local plans.

as long as Qajar mentality prevail and some peoples worship Russia & ...
don't have high hope.

 

[GoMig-21]

the fool , tried to do a roll at what altitude under 40m?
as a result he lost altitude and hit ground at very fast speed and he was lucky to hit ground with belly and as result bounce back up because of its speed and low angle it hit ground and he hit ground with flat surface of the airplane not with one wing for example .

That's right. I see that little bit of quick nose-up minimal altitude gain just before going inverted to compensate for the slight altitude loss that occurs when the wings reach the vertical position during the roll. Just at that point and depending on how quick the roll is executed, there's a loss in altitude. The faster the roll, the less time the aircraft's wings are in the vertical position, the less the altitude loss. I see it all the time at airshows very easy to notice.

It's even supposed to be SOP when executing a split-S maneuver. And that's only going inverted, not even doing a complete roll because the wings also end up vertical for a split second and it's enough for that tiny bit of altitude loss that happens at that moment. The only thing creating lift at that instant is the fuselage on its side, which isn't much.

Yeah this fella didn't even do that at super low altitude.

that's not a barrel roll, this is a barrel roll

Oh, excuuuuuuuuse mois! lol An "aileron roll." How's that? Sounds wicked gay lmao.

 

[Immortals]

Maybe with the DM Shoigu being replaced, Iran and Russia military relations can proceed. His main job was to procure military arms for the Russian military. He might have voiced rejections against arms to Iran during the war or for whatever reason (mere speculation).

Anyone know how Andrei Belousov views IRGC and Iran? I always got the feeling that Shoigu didn’t like IRGC/Iran too much.

 

[Immortals]

Looks like some long range AD missile/BVR design.

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@Hack-Hook @AmirIGM

Any ideas?

 

[jauk]

Mass re-produced F-5 are also quite handful , with modernized software and weapon's package

However I think Sukhoi-35 would help stabilize the region a bit

Russia made a error by not arming up Syria and Iran by proper fighter jets , if they had done it , likely the world would be stalemate as it was in 1980's


>Sukhoi-35
>F7PG (China) or J10

Could help boost Iran airforce so regional airforce balance is maintained

That assumes either wanted to buy these things. wrong assumption.

 

[muhammed45]

Maybe with the DM Shoigu being replaced, Iran and Russia military relations can proceed. His main job was to procure military arms for the Russian military. He might have voiced rejections against arms to Iran during the war or for whatever reason (mere speculation).

Anyone know how Andrei Belousov views IRGC and Iran? I always got the feeling that Shoigu didn’t like IRGC/Iran too much.

On the contrary the new Russian DM is a businessman who has strong relationship with Russia's Jewish bankers.

His kind have greatly helped stabilize Russia's sanction hit economy.

I expect decline in Iran-Russia military cooperation.

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

Has the Su-35 been delivered like it was claimed nearly 3 weeks ago?