India Targets Six-Carrier Naval Fleet, Says Defence Minister

[vikNerv]

Like I noted on Twitter: „It’s always healthy to start the day with a good laugh.“

Really … how long did India struggle to build the Vikrant? Now they have a too small aircraft carrier without a proper aircraft, have the problem to find a decent replacement for its MiG-29K and instead of making realistic, affordable plans, they dream of "will make five, six more" and even more with yet another Vikrant-sized one, speak of a „naval race“ with China … this is funny!

Your point being? India won't or can't have a 6 carrier navy? What's so funny about the tweet other?

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

Even for naval strategy, India copies China.

But here's the problem.

1. India does not have such technology.
2. India does not have such industrial capacity.
3. India does not have such economic strength.

India is like a 5-year-old boy who says he can run as fast as Liu Xiang.

does China have ?

Mostly, you copied Russian tech and tried to be smart.

Till now, more than 80% of military using the copy/reverse engineering from Russian and others.

 

[DDG-80]

Frigates that lacks true area air defense (in NATO definition)

India is strengthening its least numerous destroyer fleet with new Project 17A (P17A) frigates, NGC, NGMVs which have advanced SAMs for better area defense. The Shivalik-class frigates have begun undergoing mid-life upgrades, including the integration of the BrahMos missile, as demonstrated in a recent test firing. For air defense, their Barak 1 point defense system will be replaced with a more advanced VLSRSAM system. Further help arrives with 4 Talwar Batch 3 class ships that are reportedly being fitted with Shtil VLS as seen on their sister Admiral Grigorovich class frigates

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

Like I noted on Twitter: „It’s always healthy to start the day with a good laugh.“

Really … how long did India struggle to build the Vikrant? Now they have a too small aircraft carrier without a proper aircraft, have the problem to find a decent replacement for its MiG-29K and instead of making realistic, affordable plans, they dream of "will make five, six more" and even more with yet another Vikrant-sized one, speak of a „naval race“ with China … this is funny!

India needs only 3 aircraft careers, We need to focus on collaborating with French and western countries to build SSN submarines—at least 10-15, to have eyes in the South China Sea and Philippine Sea.

With current capabilities with land, and navy forces - good enough to deal in Indian Ocean

 

[DDG-80]

lack of competent supporting carrier air elements (ASW, etc).

The Indian Navy has significantly enhanced its ASW capabilities. They've brought in modern ASW helicopters, long-range maritime patrol aircraft, advanced satellites, and SOSUS networks. Additionally, ships like the Talwar and Shivalik classes are equipped with variable depth sonar to detect enemy's submarines, especially in the shallow waters of the Arabian and Andaman Sea. Furthermore, the Indian Navy is in the process of inducting 16 ASW SWC ships, which come with low-frequency variable depth sonar systems.

Talwar class frigate with Atlas Elektronik VDS.

 

[guangdongt]

Indian southern part is peninsula with really long maritime borders and huge EEZ, also sitting at the busiest trade routes. I think 5 aircrafts will be good enough. Indian govt should focus more on SSN and SSK.

In the long run, submarines are indeed more practical

 

[Justin TruDont]

Like I noted on Twitter: „It’s always healthy to start the day with a good laugh.“

Really … how long did India struggle to build the Vikrant? Now they have a too small aircraft carrier without a proper aircraft, have the problem to find a decent replacement for its MiG-29K and instead of making realistic, affordable plans, they dream of "will make five, six more" and even more with yet another Vikrant-sized one, speak of a „naval race“ with China … this is funny!

Vikrant can carry about the same number of aircrafts as Shandong and Liaoning ie 24 fighters and 10 Helis

India Finalised Rafale M, last year as the primary Fighter jet for Vikrant

Deal will be signed after the ongoing Indian Elections, when the New Government is in place

Any one not sleeping under a rock, would have seen the announcement made by Modi during his visit to France regarding purchase of 26 Rafales Ms and 3 Scorpene class Subs for Indian Navy

As far as making 5-6 Carriers are concerned,

Well that's our long term plan as the size of Indian Economy grows
Indian GDP currently stands at 3.75 Trillion USD which our defence expenditure is around 80 billion USD

I don't think anyone believes that Indian Military expenditure will not grow with the increase in size of Indian economy

 

[Cryptonian]

Vikrant can carry about the same number of aircrafts as Shandong and Liaoning ie 24 fighters and 10 Helis

India Finalised Rafale M, last year as the primary Fighter jet for Vikrant

Deal will be signed after the ongoing Indian Elections, when the New Government is in place

Any one not sleeping under a rock, would have seen the announcement made by Modi during his visit to France regarding purchase of 26 Rafales Ms and 3 Scorpene class Subs for Indian Navy

As far as making 5-6 Carriers are concerned,

Well that's our long term plan as the size of Indian Economy grows
Indian GDP currently stands at 3.75 Trillion USD which our defence expenditure is around 80 billion USD

I don't think anyone believes that Indian Military expenditure will not grow with the increase in size of Indian economy

He is just a defence enthuse larper, dont expect much from him.

 

[Jaeger]

Even for naval strategy, India copies China.

But here's the problem.

1. India does not have such technology.
2. India does not have such industrial capacity.
3. India does not have such economic strength.

India is like a 5-year-old boy who says he can run as fast as Liu Xiang.

India has never copied China. Especially the Indian Navy, which operated an aircraft carrier since the 1950s. China acquired its first casino a decade or so back.

Before that Chinese "experts" use to argue that aircraft carriers are obsolete, can be easily sunk by anti ship missiles, hence China does not have them.
Now that China has fully jumped on the aircraft carrier bandwagon, hence everyone is "copying" China.

 

[Cryptonian]

Even for naval strategy, India copies China.

But here's the problem.

1. India does not have such technology.
2. India does not have such industrial capacity.
3. India does not have such economic strength.

India is like a 5-year-old boy who says he can run as fast as Liu Xiang.

China just got its third floating casino, which is barely ever gonna cross first chain of islands.
First lets see a proof that chinese EMALS even work on ground based facility ,before chest thumping about it catapulting a fighter jet.

 

[Pioneer]

does China have ?

Mostly, you copied Russian tech and tried to be smart.

Till now, more than 80% of military using the copy/reverse engineering from Russian and others.

lol

India has no technology at all. 100% of all Indian weapons rely on Russia, Israel, France, the United States, etc.

India assembled and copied a Soviet aircraft carrier using Russian technology. The Indian aircraft carrier is a 20 year engineering joke.

Not to talk about India's use of 20 years to assemble and copy Soviet aircraft carriers. India can't even assemble any LHD.

India can't even make anti-submarine aircraft, AWACS....

There is no foreign technology. India can't even make steel plates.

No foreign technology. India cannot even manufacture anything.

Copy? First, you have the technology in India, and then go copy.

Just a reminder to you. Indian aircraft carriers do not have carrier based aircraft.

 

[DDG-80]

lol
Copy? First, you have the technology in India, and then go copy.

According to SIPRI, MTU was a regular supplier of engines for Luyang III class missile destroyers of China until at least 2020. Additionally, MTU reportedly supplied engines that were used in China's Song-class submarines.

German technology found in China's warships: report

Engines developed in Germany can evade export control bans due to their status as a so-called dual-use technology, a German media investigation has revealed.

www.dw.com

 

[Pioneer]

According to SIPRI, MTU was a regular supplier of engines for Luyang III class missile destroyers of China until at least 2020. Additionally, MTU reportedly supplied engines that were used in China's Song-class submarines.

German technology found in China's warships: report

Engines developed in Germany can evade export control bans due to their status as a so-called dual-use technology, a German media investigation has revealed.

www.dw.com

LOL



Sorry. I don't know what the relationship between the words "technology" and "India" is.

 

[DDG-80]

CSL has expressed confidence they can churn out another Vikrant sized IAC within 8 years of placing the order.
Kochi is already working on a dock that will allow them to build a 60k+ tonne ship. So, there's scope to expand. Add to that, India's also expanding the number of docks which can construct war ships. MDL & GRSE were the only ones, now GSL, CSL, L&T & HSL are also into it.

 

[Bhojpuranchali]

300 , if Navy wants to place 120 something aircrafts at various island bases. Otherwise 180 maximum.

US Navy Aircraft Carriers carry 100 fighter jets each