Elon Musk hints Tesla FSD for China may be possible very soon
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Some American butt hurt about China, Chinese EV,
China actually wants Tesla and American EV market to do well.
Vision and perspective, we are not in the same dimension.
China actually wants Tesla and American EV market to do well.
Vision and perspective, we are not in the same dimension.
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Hamartia Antidote
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Tesla FSD in China could add $2.3B in annual earnings by 2030: Bank of America
Bank of America is seeing the potential of Tesla FSD in China, with the firm estimating the system to boost revenue by $2.3B in 2030.
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Tesla FSD in China could add $2.3 billion in annual earnings by 2030: Bank of America
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Tesla is in talks with 'one major automaker about licensing Full Self-Driving'
Elon Musk confirmed that Tesla is currently in talks with “one major automaker about licensing Full Self-Driving (FSD)”. Back in...
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Vice chairman of Xiaomi shocked by how good Tesla FSD is
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Xpeng CEO Praises Tesla FSD, Says The New Decade Is About Smart Cars | EV
The chief executive of Xpeng, He Xiaopeng, reacted on Weibo to the recent developments of Tesla's advanced assisted driving software in China. Xiaopeng predicts that the new decade will be focused on smart cars adding that Tesla has "very good autonomous driving technology".
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The chief executive of Xpeng, He Xiaopeng, reacted on Weibo to the recent developments of Tesla’s advanced assisted driving software in China. Xiaopeng predicts that the new decade will be focused on smart cars adding that Tesla has “very good autonomous driving technology”.
“Today, many friends asked me about my views on FSD entering China, and I am particularly welcoming Tesla’s FSD entering China. If the last decade was the decade of new energy, the new decade will be the decade of smart cars. The vigorous development of large-scale models in the past two years has significantly accelerated the advancement of advanced autonomous driving and unmanned driving technologies and experiences,” He Xiaopeng wrote.
“Combining our own progress, I believe that large-scale models will accelerate the landing speed of autonomous driving by at least 3 years, and Full Self Driving (FSD) is also one of the best commercial scenarios for large-scale models to land,” Xpeng CEO added.
In conclusion, He Xiaopeng added that China is “vigorously promoting openness and new quality productivity”.
“Tesla has very good autonomous driving technology and brand. Only with more good products and technologies entering the market can we provide better experiences for the entire market and customers, and promote the market towards a benign development and accelerated advancement. Moreover, China is vigorously promoting openness and new quality productivity. I believe that whether it is Tesla’s FSD, Xpeng’s NGP, or competitors’ NOA, these are representatives of new quality productivity and should be supported for diversified development”.
Tesla has introduced this weekend its Enhanced Autopilot (EAP) subscription service in China, priced at 699 yuan per month ($98.5). Elon Musk hinted recently at the possibility of offering full self-driving capabilities in China soon, stating “It may be possible very soon” in a recent post on X.
The version 12 of the software is “ready for supervised FSD in LHD countries,” with RHD countries (such as he UK or Japan) expected to follow suit later, according to the Tesla CEO.
Hamartia Antidote
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2024-05-08
www.chinadaily.com.cn
Elon Musk, the CEO of the United States electric vehicle maker Tesla, proposed testing the full self-driving, or FSD, functions of its vehicles in the Chinese market by deploying them as "taxis" during his recent visit to China, and sources indicated that the Chinese government may have offered partial support for this plan.
In addition to seeking approval for its most advanced FSD software rollout in China, Musk also suggested implementing these functions in the country's taxi services, individuals close to the matter told China Daily.
Chinese officials told Musk that China "welcomes Tesla to do some robotaxi tests in the country" and hopes it to "set a good example", the sources said, but authorities did not immediately approve its widespread use of FSD functions.
Industry experts said that despite rising protectionism, including TikTok's ban in the United States, China has sent a clear signal that it is further opening its doors to multinational companies to test their advanced technologies in the country for mutual gain.
Musk confirmed earlier this year that Tesla would unveil its robotaxi, a concept that has long been part of the company's ambitious plans, on Aug 8. China is Tesla's second-largest market, and trade news reports say the robotaxi could be a "life-saving straw" for the US company to gain back market share from local carmakers.
Before the full rollout of its FSD functions, Tesla still needs to get approval to collect and transfer data that Tesla's cars need to train its driver-assistance features. People familiar with the matter said that this issue wasn't discussed in detail during Musk's visit to China.
On April 20, Chinese internet firm Baidu held a news conference announcing collaborations with several companies, including Tesla, related to the launch of its advanced lane-level navigation.
Some media reports said that Tesla inked a deal with Baidu to clear another regulatory hurdle for its autonomous driving services. A source close to Baidu told China Daily that he didn't see "any new deal related to FSD functions" between the two.
The two companies initiated their partnership in 2020, with Tesla already integrating Baidu's navigation map into its vehicles in China.
The source said he believed that the latest cooperation only means that the accuracy of Baidu's map provided to Tesla has been improved to some extent, and that it has no direct relations with its FSD function.
"Tesla doesn't rely on mapping to offer autonomous driving and hasn't got a license from Baidu to use its mapping license," he said.
According to the Ministry of Natural Resources, all intelligent driving systems are required to obtain a qualification before they can operate on public roads. Foreign companies need to partner with domestic companies that have obtained the license.
Sources: Tesla plans to test its "robotaxi" in China
Elon Musk, the CEO of the United States electric vehicle maker Tesla, proposed testing the full self-driving, or FSD, functions of its vehicles in the Chinese market by deploying them as "taxis" during his recent visit to China, and sources indicated that the Chinese government may have offered...
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Sources: Tesla plans to test its "robotaxi" in China
Elon Musk, the CEO of the United States electric vehicle maker Tesla, proposed testing the full self-driving, or FSD, functions of its vehicles in the Chinese market by deploying them as "taxis" during his recent visit to China, and sources indicated that the Chinese government may have offered partial support for this plan.
In addition to seeking approval for its most advanced FSD software rollout in China, Musk also suggested implementing these functions in the country's taxi services, individuals close to the matter told China Daily.
Chinese officials told Musk that China "welcomes Tesla to do some robotaxi tests in the country" and hopes it to "set a good example", the sources said, but authorities did not immediately approve its widespread use of FSD functions.
Industry experts said that despite rising protectionism, including TikTok's ban in the United States, China has sent a clear signal that it is further opening its doors to multinational companies to test their advanced technologies in the country for mutual gain.
Musk confirmed earlier this year that Tesla would unveil its robotaxi, a concept that has long been part of the company's ambitious plans, on Aug 8. China is Tesla's second-largest market, and trade news reports say the robotaxi could be a "life-saving straw" for the US company to gain back market share from local carmakers.
Before the full rollout of its FSD functions, Tesla still needs to get approval to collect and transfer data that Tesla's cars need to train its driver-assistance features. People familiar with the matter said that this issue wasn't discussed in detail during Musk's visit to China.
On April 20, Chinese internet firm Baidu held a news conference announcing collaborations with several companies, including Tesla, related to the launch of its advanced lane-level navigation.
Some media reports said that Tesla inked a deal with Baidu to clear another regulatory hurdle for its autonomous driving services. A source close to Baidu told China Daily that he didn't see "any new deal related to FSD functions" between the two.
The two companies initiated their partnership in 2020, with Tesla already integrating Baidu's navigation map into its vehicles in China.
The source said he believed that the latest cooperation only means that the accuracy of Baidu's map provided to Tesla has been improved to some extent, and that it has no direct relations with its FSD function.
"Tesla doesn't rely on mapping to offer autonomous driving and hasn't got a license from Baidu to use its mapping license," he said.
According to the Ministry of Natural Resources, all intelligent driving systems are required to obtain a qualification before they can operate on public roads. Foreign companies need to partner with domestic companies that have obtained the license.
Hamartia Antidote
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So let's see what Chinese government Media has to say about Tesla's full self driving...you know the tech Chinese PDF trollers were perpetually desperately screaming for YEARS as "a fraud, impossible to do without LiDAR, Elon Musk is a scammer running a pyramid scheme EV company that will never be profitable" 
Here we go:
ChinaDaily 2024-05-09
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China is very likely to support US vehicle maker Tesla's local testing of robotaxis, and may move to consider data compliance issues given that data regulators attended a recent top-level meeting that involved Elon Musk, the automaker's CEO, sources told China Daily on Wednesday.
Experts and domestic self-driving firms believe that Tesla's progress reinforces China's commitment to further open up to more foreign players in the Chinese market for mutual benefit, especially in some emerging sectors like autonomous driving.
During his recent brief but jam-packed visit to China late last month, Musk specifically proposed rolling out its robotaxi products and services in the Chinese market, in addition to deploying full self-driving software in the country, sources close to the matter told China Daily.
Chinese officials told Musk that China "welcomes Tesla to do some robotaxi tests in the country" and hopes the automaker will "set a good example", the sources said, though Chinese authorities have yet to approve Tesla's widespread use of FSD functions. Before the full rollout of its FSD functions, Tesla still needs to get approval to collect and transfer data that Tesla's cars need to train its driver-assistance features.
Though the data problem wasn't discussed in great detail during Musk's visit, a source linked to the visit believes that authorities are "apparently considering" the data issue.
The source said that a top official from the National Development and Reform Commission, which currently oversees the National Data Bureau, was seen attending the top-level meeting with Musk. Officials attending the meeting were "very limited" in number this time, so the NDRC's attendance is considered to be of great significance, he disclosed.
The Ministry of Natural Resources said all intelligent driving systems are required to obtain official qualification before they can operate on public roadways. Foreign companies need to partner with domestic counterparts that have obtained the qualification due to data concerns.
In April, Chinese internet giant Baidu held a news conference announcing a collaboration with Tesla, including the launch of its advanced lane-level navigation specialized for the US firm, which ignited reports saying that the two may in fact have already inked a qualification deal for Tesla's potential rollout of its robotaxi services in China.
A source told China Daily that the latest cooperation means that the accuracy of Baidu's mapping services provided to Tesla has been improved to a great extent, but he did not witness any new deals related to the rollout of FSD functions or qualification between the two — at least during Musk's recent visit.
However, the source said that Baidu is likely to become the qualification partner of Tesla if the latter is able to operate its robotaxis in China, as the two companies initiated their partnership in 2020 in which Tesla integrated Baidu's navigation map into its vehicles in the country.
Both Tesla and Baidu had not yet commented on the issue as of publishing time. Tesla's Nasdaq-listed shares closed 3.76 percent lower on Tuesday local time for a variety of reasons.
Despite rising geopolitical tensions, such as the potential TikTok ban in the United States, Lu Yan, an independent analyst and a veteran in the new energy sector, said: "The tie-up shows that the Chinese government, on the other hand, is devoted to an open market and welcomes foreign players like Tesla, BMW and Mercedes-Benz to implement advanced smart driving technologies in China, and provides a broad marketplace that allows both Chinese and foreign technologies to bloom and make progress together."
Peng Jun, co-founder and CEO of domestic leading self-driving startup Pony.ai, said: "We are very happy to see companies like Tesla joining the autonomous driving sector, which will be a good thing for the development of the entire industry. For an emerging industry like autonomous driving, we are all working toward the same goal of achieving a comprehensive and prosperous development of the industry. Applications from assisted driving to higher-level autonomous driving are expanding rapidly, and the commercialization and application of autonomous driving technologies are expected to usher in explosive growth."
Here we go:
ChinaDaily 2024-05-09
Sources: China mulling Tesla robotaxi tests
China is very likely to support US vehicle maker Tesla's local testing of robotaxis, and may move to consider data compliance issues given that data regulators attended a recent top-level meeting that involved Elon Musk, the automaker's CEO, sources told China Daily on Wednesday.
www.chinadaily.com.cn
Sources: China mulling Tesla robotaxi tests
China is very likely to support US vehicle maker Tesla's local testing of robotaxis, and may move to consider data compliance issues given that data regulators attended a recent top-level meeting that involved Elon Musk, the automaker's CEO, sources told China Daily on Wednesday.
Experts and domestic self-driving firms believe that Tesla's progress reinforces China's commitment to further open up to more foreign players in the Chinese market for mutual benefit, especially in some emerging sectors like autonomous driving.
During his recent brief but jam-packed visit to China late last month, Musk specifically proposed rolling out its robotaxi products and services in the Chinese market, in addition to deploying full self-driving software in the country, sources close to the matter told China Daily.
Chinese officials told Musk that China "welcomes Tesla to do some robotaxi tests in the country" and hopes the automaker will "set a good example", the sources said, though Chinese authorities have yet to approve Tesla's widespread use of FSD functions. Before the full rollout of its FSD functions, Tesla still needs to get approval to collect and transfer data that Tesla's cars need to train its driver-assistance features.
Though the data problem wasn't discussed in great detail during Musk's visit, a source linked to the visit believes that authorities are "apparently considering" the data issue.
The source said that a top official from the National Development and Reform Commission, which currently oversees the National Data Bureau, was seen attending the top-level meeting with Musk. Officials attending the meeting were "very limited" in number this time, so the NDRC's attendance is considered to be of great significance, he disclosed.
The Ministry of Natural Resources said all intelligent driving systems are required to obtain official qualification before they can operate on public roadways. Foreign companies need to partner with domestic counterparts that have obtained the qualification due to data concerns.
In April, Chinese internet giant Baidu held a news conference announcing a collaboration with Tesla, including the launch of its advanced lane-level navigation specialized for the US firm, which ignited reports saying that the two may in fact have already inked a qualification deal for Tesla's potential rollout of its robotaxi services in China.
A source told China Daily that the latest cooperation means that the accuracy of Baidu's mapping services provided to Tesla has been improved to a great extent, but he did not witness any new deals related to the rollout of FSD functions or qualification between the two — at least during Musk's recent visit.
However, the source said that Baidu is likely to become the qualification partner of Tesla if the latter is able to operate its robotaxis in China, as the two companies initiated their partnership in 2020 in which Tesla integrated Baidu's navigation map into its vehicles in the country.
Both Tesla and Baidu had not yet commented on the issue as of publishing time. Tesla's Nasdaq-listed shares closed 3.76 percent lower on Tuesday local time for a variety of reasons.
Despite rising geopolitical tensions, such as the potential TikTok ban in the United States, Lu Yan, an independent analyst and a veteran in the new energy sector, said: "The tie-up shows that the Chinese government, on the other hand, is devoted to an open market and welcomes foreign players like Tesla, BMW and Mercedes-Benz to implement advanced smart driving technologies in China, and provides a broad marketplace that allows both Chinese and foreign technologies to bloom and make progress together."
Peng Jun, co-founder and CEO of domestic leading self-driving startup Pony.ai, said: "We are very happy to see companies like Tesla joining the autonomous driving sector, which will be a good thing for the development of the entire industry. For an emerging industry like autonomous driving, we are all working toward the same goal of achieving a comprehensive and prosperous development of the industry. Applications from assisted driving to higher-level autonomous driving are expanding rapidly, and the commercialization and application of autonomous driving technologies are expected to usher in explosive growth."
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Hamartia Antidote
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This Chinese analyst says self driving tech "not important" to Chinese consumers.
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Tesla’s potential launch of its Full Self-Driving (FSD) system in China is likely to widen the adoption of autonomous driving in the world’s largest electric vehicle (EV) market, but it would have little impact on boosting domestic car sales amid cutthroat competition, according to a Bank of America (BofA) analyst.
Autonomous driving is currently not a priority for Chinese EV buyers, so Tesla’s FSD is unlikely to shake up the industry because local rivals have started to offer similar technologies, according to Ming Lee, head of Greater China Autos Research at BofA Global Research, on the sidelines of the Innovative China Conference in Shenzhen on Thursday.
“The good thing is that they can help make the adoption of autonomous driving more widely available to consumers,” Lee said.
Speculation on how Tesla’s FSD launch could impact China’s EV market reflects the anticipation for the US carmaker’s proposed domestic launch of a “robotaxi” service, which would test its advanced driver assistance system on the mainland.
Tesla plans to launch its robotaxi service and test the FSD system in Shanghai, Reuters said in a report, citing people briefed on the matter.
Chief executive Elon Musk had sought consent to operate a robotaxi business on the mainland during a discussion with the country’s top policymakers last month, according to a report published by state-run China Daily. Beijing will grant Tesla such a licence to show the government’s positive stance on economic ties with the United States, the newspaper added.
Tesla is looking to push its FSD system in China’s EV market, which accounts for about 60 per cent of global sales, amid a growing price war in the country. The company in April slashed prices on its Shanghai-built EVs by more than 5 per cent.
Tesla’s self-driving system launch in China to widen autonomous tech’s adoption
The potential launch of Tesla’s Full Self-Driving system in China is expected to help widen domestic availability of such autonomous vehicle technology.
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Tesla’s launch of self-driving system in China to widen autonomous tech adoption in world’s largest EV market, analyst says
Tesla’s potential launch of its Full Self-Driving (FSD) system in China is likely to widen the adoption of autonomous driving in the world’s largest electric vehicle (EV) market, but it would have little impact on boosting domestic car sales amid cutthroat competition, according to a Bank of America (BofA) analyst.
Autonomous driving is currently not a priority for Chinese EV buyers, so Tesla’s FSD is unlikely to shake up the industry because local rivals have started to offer similar technologies, according to Ming Lee, head of Greater China Autos Research at BofA Global Research, on the sidelines of the Innovative China Conference in Shenzhen on Thursday.
“The good thing is that they can help make the adoption of autonomous driving more widely available to consumers,” Lee said.
Speculation on how Tesla’s FSD launch could impact China’s EV market reflects the anticipation for the US carmaker’s proposed domestic launch of a “robotaxi” service, which would test its advanced driver assistance system on the mainland.
Tesla plans to launch its robotaxi service and test the FSD system in Shanghai, Reuters said in a report, citing people briefed on the matter.
Chief executive Elon Musk had sought consent to operate a robotaxi business on the mainland during a discussion with the country’s top policymakers last month, according to a report published by state-run China Daily. Beijing will grant Tesla such a licence to show the government’s positive stance on economic ties with the United States, the newspaper added.
Tesla is looking to push its FSD system in China’s EV market, which accounts for about 60 per cent of global sales, amid a growing price war in the country. The company in April slashed prices on its Shanghai-built EVs by more than 5 per cent.
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Tesla looking to use China data center in self-driving push: Rpt.
Tesla (TSLA) has been trying advance its self-driving technology in China, but it needs to comply with local regulations. As part of its push, the company is looking to process data gathered in China at a Chinese data center in order to avoid running afoul of regulators. According to the report...
Tesla looking to use China data center in self-driving push: Rpt.
Tesla (TSLA) has been trying advance its self-driving technology in China, but it needs to comply with local regulations. As part of its push, the company is looking to process data gathered in China at a Chinese data center in order to avoid running afoul of regulators. According to the report from Reuters, the company has also been trying to secure approval to transfer data outside of the country for processing.
Yahoo Finance Autos Reporter Pras Subramanian explains why this is an important move for Tesla.
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FSD being near possibly causing jump in sales.
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Tesla China registrations surge 41% week-over-week to 13.8k units in May’s 3rd week
Tesla China saw 13,800 new vehicle registrations in the week of May 13-19, 2024. These numbers translate to a 41% increase in Tesla China’s domestic vehicle sales compared to the 9,800 units that were tracked during the week of May 6-12, 2024. Tesla does not release its weekly sales figures in...
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Tesla China registrations surge 41% week-over-week to 13.8k units in May’s 3rd week
My Chinese friend flew to the US to try out FSD V12.3.6
My friend test drive FSD V12.3.6
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FSD being near possibly causing jump in sales.
Tesla China registrations surge 41% week-over-week to 13.8k units in May’s 3rd week
Tesla China saw 13,800 new vehicle registrations in the week of May 13-19, 2024. These numbers translate to a 41% increase in Tesla China’s domestic vehicle sales compared to the 9,800 units that were tracked during the week of May 6-12, 2024. Tesla does not release its weekly sales figures in...Tesla China registrations surge 41% week-over-week to 13.8k units in May’s 3rd week
100% correct!
It's the FSD.
Hamartia Antidote
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A lot of car companies are going to be in serious trouble soon when they try and compete with it and find they are too far behind.
All Tesla has to do is offer FSD for free and wow things are going to hit the fan...
Here's some guys in Moldova with a geo-fenced hacked US car (tricked into thinking it's in Canada)..and it still works fine on their roads.
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Hacked?
Hacked to be used in Moldova??? lol
Yes!!!
I think I can use it in Indonesia as well then. lol
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