An Incident happened today ...Made me really wonder...

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

It not just Pakistan , the region around Palestine is quite chaotic for last 15 years

 

[MastanKhan]

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All must hear this youtube video till the end to hear what US ex pres thought about Bibi

Hi,

I just heard Pres Obama's interview yesterday where he stated that he wished he had done more for the palestinians---.

And I know he wanted to---that is why he had asked pakistan to send troops to the GCC during the yemen conflict---.

What a fool of a man with a short vision Gen. Raheel Shareef was---. He could have build up his own 150-250 K pak military with full complement of weapons.

As the pres of united states---he had full knowledge of what was coming to the region---5 yrs---10 yrs---15 years from his time of presidency---and with that information---he had asked pak military to take charge of the gcc--& Gen Raheel being true to being a pakistani general who never had any clue of what what was happening in and around the region and being clueless to the repurcussions due the the lack of or the indulgence of their presence---he acted no different than his predecessors---what a sad reality to face for the pakistanis---.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Obama never visited Pakistan once .... during his term.
That is all I remember from his term. For me that was his ultimate Legacy

Pakistan has neutral stance on international conflict unless it involves Holy Mosques
However, the higher upper in Pakistan may know otherwise.

• Some involvement in Jordan for protection of King of Jordan (Zia's time) heard it from Jordanian person who was Chef for higher uppers 10-15 years ago.
• 1990 Gulf War vs Iraq, Pakistan protected the Holy Mosque in Saudia
• No Troops committed to 2nd Iraq war , generally people were against war
• No Troops committed to Afghan war. Army stayed at their own border
• No Troop committed to Libya War
• No Troops committed to Syria War
• Stayed away from Mynannamar-Bangladesh standoff

In line with the above history , Pakistan also did not participate in Ukraine-Russia coflict
choosing a path of "Solve issues on table"

Mr Obama was massive disappointment.


For Most US presidents , they always have same pattern

• When they are in power they do nothing , but after retirement give conflicting statements "what if I helped more or not" , however it is too late for that

The only person who remotely said positive things about Pakistan was Donald Trump
While he was harsh with many countries but when it come to Pakistan he always said positive things about people

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

@MastanKhan

• G.C.C Countries do have a large Military themselves it is not the 1970's anymore, General Raheel Sharif had a consultative role in Saudi Arabia after retirement from Pakistan.

• Saudi Arabia has population of (40 million) Now (Advance Airforce)
• Egypt always had a large population (100 million) and Large Military (Advance Airforce)
• Turkey also have advance Airforce and manpower (84 million) (200+ F16)
• Iran has a strong Military & Airforce and manpower. (80 million) (Advance weaponry / SAM)
• Iraq is redeveloping their Manpower in Military

Syria - Impacted economically by War unsure of their Military.
Libya - Impacted economically by War unsure of their military.


I don't think they need a dedicated Pakistan Military they way you described in your post above it is not practical.

 

[Developereo]

it has nothing to do with others having Godly powers.

Internet warriors can issue fatwas all day long but leaders need to be mindful of how their actions will affect the lives of millions of their citizens. Millions of labor class Pakistanis make their living in these countries and the GCC rulers are very capricious. They are indeed petty enough to take out their anger on these poor workers by deporting them or making their lives difficult.

Hi,

How about now---the great iranian revolutionary guard warriors had the chance to take on the israelis after the hamas attack---.

But silence only--- only beating of women who don't wear hijab---.

That is what the great muslim shia iranian warrior is good for----beating up innocent women---rather than taking on the arch enemy israel---.

It's suicide to take on the US, let alone the combined might of NATO. It's easy for people on the internet to huff and puff, but leaders need to make choices that will affect the lives of millions.

 

[MastanKhan]

Internet warriors can issue fatwas all day long but leaders need to be mindful of how their actions will affect the lives of millions of their citizens. Millions of labor class Pakistanis make their living in these countries and the GCC rulers are very capricious. They are indeed petty enough to take out their anger on these poor workers by deporting them or making their lives difficult.




It's suicide to take on the US, let alone the combined might of NATO. It's easy for people on the internet to huff and puff, but leaders need to make choices that will affect the lives of millions.

Hi,

There is no bigger coward than the iranian leadership---. After Suleimani's death---each of the iranian leadership has attached the name of chicken to their name---.

The death from above has terrified them to the hilt---the fear of silent death---when they don't know when they are going to die---and won't be able to register the moment of demise in their brains---is terrifying the Khomein regime---.

One of my good Shia friend---a great pro-iranian who talked about war all the time has shut his mouth completely during the recent events---. He has 2 grown up sons now---but he is not willing to sacrifice his sons for the shia cause of Iran---.

As long others children died---he was a great proponent of war---now all I hear is just a whimper from him

 

[Developereo]

As long others children died---he was a great proponent of war---now all I hear is just a whimper from him

Do I really need to point out the irony of this statement from someone who is sitting comfortably in the US but is demanding the Iranians to attack NATO?

 

[vsdoc]

Do I really need to point out the irony of this statement from someone who is sitting comfortably in the US but is demanding the Iranians to attack NATO?

Also, can you explain to me please why the whole onus of "doing something" among Muslim countries is only on Iran?

Why?

There are really large powerful Muslim countries .... either militarily or economically or both.

Saudi. Egypt. Turkey. Indonesia. Pakistan.

These 5 alone are each on their own a match for Israel, removing the nuclear card.

So why only Iranians are the cowards here?

@MastanKhan sir, this is a serious question I have for you too, based on your denouncements of Iran and its people.

Cheers, Doc

 

[Developereo]

Also, can you explain to me please why the whole onus of "doing something" among Muslim countries is only on Iran?

Probably because Israel itself considers only Iran to be a threat.

Pakistan has nukes but is dismissed universally as ruled by beggars who can be bought with pocket change.

 

[peagle]

Internet warriors can issue fatwas all day long but leaders need to be mindful of how their actions will affect the lives of millions of their citizens. Millions of labor class Pakistanis make their living in these countries and the GCC rulers are very capricious. They are indeed petty enough to take out their anger on these poor workers by deporting them or making their lives difficult.

That's just being childish, you have not answered anything I said, just more of the same childish ego filled arrogant statement.
Well done General internet warrior, you certainly are the commander in chief.
Herr Developereo

If you have the guts argue the points, not make empty statements.

 

[Developereo]

That's just being childish, you have not answered anything I said, just more of the same childish ego filled arrogant statement.
Well done General internet warrior, you certainly are the commander in chief.
Herr Developereo

If you have the guts argue the points, not make empty statements.

LOL, I will be happy to respond when you actually say something.
So far all you have given us is some guesswork as to what Imran Khan would have done.

I do however wonder, how Imran would have reacted to this situation. I'm aware he couldn't have done much on the ground, but it's very likely he would have been giving interviews all around the world to shed greater light on this one sided war.

If you think that Imran Khan giving interviews would have made an iota of difference in the Gaza conflict then that tells us all we need to know about your grasp of reality.

So far, we are still waiting to hear your wonderful plan of action to address the Gaza conflict.
What should Pakistan do?
Please enlighten us.

 

[peagle]

LOL, I will be happy to respond when you actually say something.
So far all you have given us is some guesswork as to what Imran Khan would have done.



If you think that Imran Khan giving interviews would have made an iota of difference in the Gaza conflict then that tells us all we need to know about your grasp of reality.

So far, we are still waiting to hear your wonderful plan of action to address the Gaza conflict.
What should Pakistan do?
Please enlighten us.

Seriously, what are you on?
Can you go back and actually read what I wrote, then attempt to have a discussion.

You are creating arguments in your head, apportioning them to me, then expecting me to answer, if that's not the height of stupidity, I do not know what is.

Please tell me what are you taking, so I can make sure I tell all my friends to avoid such a thing.
You're a child

 

[Developereo]

Seriously, what are you on?
Can you go back and actually read what I wrote, then attempt to have a discussion.

I quoted your own post.
Nothing further needs be said.

 

[peagle]

I quoted your own post.
Nothing further needs be said.

You wrote your version of my post,
that's not a quote, its idiocy.
Nothing more needs to be said.

Herr Developeeo,
Get out of your own self entitled ego filled arrogant head, it's pathetic for a grown man.

 

[Developereo]

You wrote your version of my post,

It's a verbatim quote of your post.
Please consult dictionary if you don't know what 'verbatim' means.