PTI freedom movement against Judiciary and Establishment: News, Discussion & Updates

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Oh, Jinnah, Jinnah, what would I do to hang you by the noose? You had one job and couldn't complete that before hitting the deathbed.
 
If the army was more corrupt there would be no Pakistan and you would be drinking cow ka cola

Read again, I said the Generals are more corrupt.

Even with this Army they surrendered half of the
Country in 1971 and have surrendered Kashmir.
If India attacks today then they are ready to
surrender whatever is left and run away to the
West.
 
Happens when your Yo*t**apa is above your religious belief.

سود کے خاتمہ کی اہمیت ہر کوئی نہیں سمجھ سکتا. عثمانی صاحب کی بصیرت یوتھ والوں کے لیول سے بہت اوپر کی بات ہے . سیاسی تبدیلیاں تو آتی رہتی ہیں اور سیاسی قانون بھی بدلتے رہتے ہیں آج ایک ترمیم آئی ہے کل دوسری آ جائے گی . آج پٹواریوں اور جیالوں کی حکومت ہے کل پی ٹی آئی کی آ جائے گی . یہ سیاسی ڈرامے بازی تو ایسے ہی چلتی رہے گی.
 
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Happens when your Yo*t**apa is above your religious belief.

سود کے خاتمہ کی اہمیت ہر کوئی نہیں سمجھ سکتا. عثمانی صاحب کی بصیرت یوتھ والوں کے لیول سے بہت اوپر کی بات ہے . سیاسی تبدیلیاں تو آتی رہتی ہیں اور سیاسی قانون بھی بدلتے رہتے ہیں آج ایک ترمیم آئی ہے کل دوسری آ جائے گی . آج پٹواریوں اور جیالوں کی حکومت ہے کل پی ٹی آئی کی آ جائے گی . یہ سیاسی ڈرامے بازی تو ایسے ہی چلتی رہے گی.
محترم بنیادی سوال ہے ممکن ہے آپ "لوگ بصیرت" کا استعمال کر کے شریعت کی رو سے اطمینان بخش جواب دینگے"

کیا زبردستی کا نکاح جائز ہے؟ اور اس نکاح کے نتیجے میں پیدا ہونے والی اولاد جائز قرار پائی گی؟

دوسرا سوال کیا زبردستی کی لی گئی بیعت یا گواہی کا شریعت میں کیا حکم ہے؟
 
It doesn't work that way; the public is not as naive as the establishment believes/claims. Imran Khan or PTI do not control social media; rather, social media reflects the collective mindset of the nation and, in turn, influences PTI's course of action. But I do not expect Army loyalists, who remain mired in a 1990s mentality, to grasp this fundamental reality.

The youth have had enough of Nawaz Sharif, Zardari, Bilawal, Maryam, Shabaz, what they want is a change, a new visionary leadership but the old guard just will not give away the power. It's a natural process, especially during social media time where people compare the leadership with other nations, they want educated leadership who know what they're talking about. Our establishment does realise this and this is why General Mushraff talked about a third way between Pmln and PPP, the answer was PTI but even that flopped. I can still see establishment trying to allow new parties to operate such as IPP which again failed but now we have Awaam Pakistan Party, a technocratic party who wants to work with all including PTI. If the establishment wanted PPP and Pmln only they would have pressurised the IPP and AP party to join PPP and made them a strong force once again. We certainly need a strong party which doesn't promote toxic politics, character assassinations etc but talks about policies, economy etc.
 
Can never defend the way things were handled regarding civilians, women and children.

Human rights must be protected, it doesn't matter whether its PTI, Pmln, PPP or anyone else. To be frank it's a big failure that the situation reached this level, if Pakistan was a weak state like Syria, Yemen, Libya we would witness a civil war, similar to what happened in Bangladesh.
 
Ok saving the state by installing corrupt politicians and terrorising the patriotic citizens of the country who would need enemies to destabilise the country when your own army is destroying Pakistan.

It's a big blunder to allow the situation to reach this level, they could have handled it in a better way, 50,000 protesters in a 250m population is not even a threat but the establishment made it like it was grave threat and used excessive force which then turned all the hatred towards themselves. They should have stayed neutral and allowed the protests. The decision makers are typical emotional type of people who took Pti statements personal and gave the danda back.
 
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