India and China reach agreement on border patrolling along LAC

[vasanthm]

Relations with India and Tibet were quite good so much so that they did not have a clearly demarcated border and had no issues even before the British arrived

 

[hembo]

China, India have reached resolutions on border-related issues: Chinese FM
By Global Times
Published: Oct 22, 2024 05:47 PM

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Lin Jian Photo: VCG

In response to questions about the reported agreement between China and India on border patrols in disputed areas, the Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Lin Jian confirmed the progress during a regular press conference on Tuesday.

Lin said that China and India have maintained close communication through diplomatic and military channels on border-related issues. Currently, the two sides have reached resolutions on the relevant matters, which China speaks highly of.

In the next phase, China will work with India to effectively implement these resolutions, spokesperson Lin added.

"India and China have reached an agreement on patrolling arrangements along the Line of Actual Control (LAC) in border areas leading to disengagement and a resolution of the issues that had arisen in 2020 and we will be taking the next steps on this," India's Foreign Secretary Vikram Misri said on Monday, according to The Times of India.

China and India held the 30th round of the Meeting of the Working Mechanism for Consultation and Coordination on China-India Border Affairs in New Delhi in July 2024, according to the Chinese Foreign Ministry.

The meeting was attended by delegates from diplomatic, national defense, and immigration departments. The two sides agreed to maintain communication through diplomatic and military channels, strengthen negotiation mechanisms, accelerate the negotiation process, achieve an early solution of the border situation, and promote stable and healthy development of China-India relations. Both sides agreed to strictly abide by the agreements and protocols already reached and continue to maintain peace and tranquility in the border areas.

Global Times

 

[Vikramaditya1]

So the conspiracy theories can now rest. Yes, an agreement was reached. The timing of it is perfect. Along with BRICS+ summit.

 

[hembo]

So the conspiracy theories can now rest. Yes, an agreement was reached. The timing of it is perfect. Along with BRICS+ summit.

Bingo on the bold part!!

 

[agidest]

India was the one begging for de-escalation for years and now suddenly we are the desperate one? Lolol. Bhai, wake up, China had been wanting to resolve the border for years but India owing to the trauma from 1962 refused.

Incorrect.

 

[hembo]

China parries question on Modi-Xi meeting on margins of BRICS summit​

Both Modi and Xi are attending the BRICS Summit in Kazan, Russia, which begins tomorrow​

PM Narendra Modi and Chinese President Xi Jinping at the BRICS leaders' meeting
PTI
Published: 21 Oct 2024, 5:44 PM

China's foreign ministry on Monday parried questions on a possible meeting between Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Chinese President Xi Jinping on the sidelines of the BRICS summit in Russia this week.

"We will keep you posted if anything comes up," foreign ministry spokesman Lin Jian said while replying to a question at a media briefing in Beijing.

Both Modi and Xi are attending the BRICS Summit in Kazan, Russia, which begins Tuesday and ends on Thursday.

Ahead of PM Modi's visit to Kazan, foreign secretary Vikram Misri said in New Delhi on Monday that Indian and Chinese negotiators have reached an agreement on patrolling along the Line of Actual Control (LAC) in eastern Ladakh. However, there was no reaction in Beijing to the agreement announced by Misri.

Ties between India and China nosedived following the fierce clash in the Galwan Valley in June 2020, which marked the most serious military conflict between the two nations in decades.

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China last Friday announced that Xi will attend the BRICS summit in Russia, where he will work with other parties to open a new era for the Global South to seek strength through solidarity.

BRICS originally consisted of Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa, which is where the acronym comes from. Egypt, Ethiopia, Iran, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates have been admitted as new members. The theme of this year's summit is 'Strengthening Multilateralism for Just Global Development and Security'.

Another Chinese ministry spokesperson, Mao Ning, said Xi will attend small-group and large-group meetings, BRICS Plus Dialogue, and deliver important addresses.

Xi will also have in-depth exchanges with other leaders on the international landscape, the BRICS practical cooperation, the development of the BRICS mechanism and important issues of mutual interest, she said.

"China stands ready to work with other parties to strive for the steady and sustained development of greater BRICS cooperation, open a new era for the Global South to seek strength through solidarity and jointly promote world peace and development," she said.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Relations with India and Tibet were quite good so much so that they did not have a clearly demarcated border and had no issues even before the British arrived

Well, you do know that the Tibetans (around the 10th century - saying from memory, so may be a century wrong!) may have controlled some parts of northern India, south of the Sikkim-Bhutan region.
Not relevant to the thread, just mentioning this as an historical curiousity.

 

[Michael]

Other media outlets are prone to misrepresenting or incorrectly delaying the news as they disseminate and analyze it. Please refer to the content of the official statement.

The original official statement of the Chinese government on this news:

Reuters: The Indian Foreign Minister said yesterday that India and China have reached a deal on patrolling along the disputed border in the Himalayas. He said it can lead to disengagement and resolution of a conflict that began in 2020. Could we confirm with the Ministry that such an agreement was achieved? And are there other details? My second question related to this is, does the agreement open the path to a bilateral meeting between President Xi Jinping and Prime Minister Narendra Modi at the BRICS Summit happening now?​

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Lin Jian: Over a recent period of time, China and India have reached resolutions on issues concerning the border area following close communication through diplomatic and military channels. China commends the progress made and will continue working with India for the sound implementation of these resolutions.​

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On the bilateral meeting you mentioned, I answered the question yesterday. China will release timely information if anything comes up.​

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PTI: Now that you have confirmed the Indian Foreign Secretary’s announcement yesterday about the agreement reached to end the standoff there. And you also said China speaks highly about this particular agreement. Can you please provide some details? How the two countries came to reach an agreement? Has that agreement been completed? Is it ready to put it into implementation?​

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Lin Jian: As I just said, China and India have reached resolutions on issues concerning the border area following close communication through diplomatic and military channels. China will continue working with India for the sound implementation of these resolutions.​

Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Lin Jian’s Regular Press Conference on October 22, 2024_Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the People's Republic of China

www.fmprc.gov.cn

 

[Joe Shearer]

Other media outlets are prone to misrepresenting or incorrectly delaying the news as they disseminate and analyze it. Please refer to the content of the official statement.

The original official statement of the Chinese government on this news:

Reuters: The Indian Foreign Minister said yesterday that India and China have reached a deal on patrolling along the disputed border in the Himalayas. He said it can lead to disengagement and resolution of a conflict that began in 2020. Could we confirm with the Ministry that such an agreement was achieved? And are there other details? My second question related to this is, does the agreement open the path to a bilateral meeting between President Xi Jinping and Prime Minister Narendra Modi at the BRICS Summit happening now?​

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Lin Jian: Over a recent period of time, China and India have reached resolutions on issues concerning the border area following close communication through diplomatic and military channels. China commends the progress made and will continue working with India for the sound implementation of these resolutions.​

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On the bilateral meeting you mentioned, I answered the question yesterday. China will release timely information if anything comes up.​

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PTI: Now that you have confirmed the Indian Foreign Secretary’s announcement yesterday about the agreement reached to end the standoff there. And you also said China speaks highly about this particular agreement. Can you please provide some details? How the two countries came to reach an agreement? Has that agreement been completed? Is it ready to put it into implementation?​

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Lin Jian: As I just said, China and India have reached resolutions on issues concerning the border area following close communication through diplomatic and military channels. China will continue working with India for the sound implementation of these resolutions.​

Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Lin Jian’s Regular Press Conference on October 22, 2024_Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the People's Republic of China

www.fmprc.gov.cn

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So, refusal by the government of PRC to confirm specifics of decisions taken. It seems the information is released in full only by Indian sources, and has no Chinese corroboration.

 

[Michael]

So, refusal by the government of PRC to confirm specifics of decisions taken. It seems the information is released in full only by Indian sources, and has no Chinese corroboration.

Your interpretation is wrong. The Chinese government usually does not publicize specific details of interim agreements or non-major agreements in its official documents. This is a consistent practice. Only in the case of formal agreements of particular significance does the Chinese government publicize the content of the agreement in its entirety. This border settlement between China and India does not fall within the scope of agreements that need to be fully publicized.

 

[vasanthm]

Generally the side that's loud and giving out more details would have gained more than the side that's keeping things under wrap

 

[hembo]

PM, Xi To Hold Bilateral Meet At BRICS, Days After Border Breakthrough​

PM Modi and President Xi Jinping are currently in Russia's Kazan, where Russian President Vladimir Putin, Brazil's Lula da Silva, and South Africa's Cyril Ramaphosa are also attending the summit.​

 

[Circadian Rhythm]

Generally the side that's loud and giving out more details would have gained more than the side that's keeping things under wrap

What has happened is that PLA has realised the Futility of their Massive Deployment

This No war No peace situation and Face to face Deployment is pointless

We also made a mirror Deployment effectively blocking their path

We were not complaining because we are there to defend our territory

Once the Aggressor realises that He has hit a wall and is gaining nothing on the ground , then naturally they will Dis Engage and De induct

 

[Pataliputra]

What has happened is that PLA has realised the Futility of their Massive Deployment

This No war No peace situation and Face to face Deployment is pointless

We also made a mirror Deployment effectively blocking their path

We were not complaining because we are there to defend our territory

Once the Aggressor realises that He has hit a wall and is gaining nothing on the ground , then naturally they will Dis Engage and De induct

I don’t understand why China, with its massive military-industrial complex, seems so cautious when dealing with India. India appears bold and aggressive, while China seems hesitant in every India-China conflict. I can understand Pakistan’s fear of India, as Pakistan is a weak country, but China’s behavior towards India surprises me.

 

[MirageBlue]

The thread is open again, but it was unpleasant clearing the mess. Please remember:

1. Do not abuse another member, by
   1. Nationality
   2. Religion
   3. Earlier contributions that you don't agree with, in the same thread.
2. Do not abuse another nation;
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This is a minimum list.

Pin this.

Based on this, a very large number of very hateful posts would need to be cleared up on this forum.