Bangladesh Air Force

[Destranator]

I think the preference for twin engine in the past came from the requirement to patrol the huge maritime zone of Bangladesh. Redundancy is useful for those circumstances. However with longer range drones now available to patrol maritime zone, we could re-strategize. For Bangladesh, the ideal scenario is to have a small but potent fleet of relatively lower maintenance single engine fighters like Gripen, J-10 or JF 17 for the next 20 years or so, until we are capable of getting hands on 5th Gen.

Trying to protect Bay of Bengal before covering mainland is exactly the kind of delusional thinking you can expect from current BAF brass.
Priority-r mayer baap.


Look at the above map - India can enforce and maintain a naval blockade over Bangladesh with aerial support from SU-30 MKIs/Rafales operating out of their coastal air bases + Andaman/Nicobar (thank you, 1947 movement geniuses!), without even needing aerial refuelling.
BAF cannot counter this even with 5th generation fighters + refuellers.
The most effective mechanism to counter a blockade would be a combination of SSK + SSBN patrols.

SSBNs can stay in outer Indian Ocean for weeks and launch land attack cruise missiles/AShMs/ballistic missiles to disable Indian naval fleet, ports and air base, perhaps for long enough to allow international community to intervene.
This is long term pipe dream but not infeasible.

 

[Michael Corleone]

I think the preference for twin engine in the past came from the requirement to patrol the huge maritime zone of Bangladesh. Redundancy is useful for those circumstances. However with longer range drones now available to patrol maritime zone, we could re-strategize. For Bangladesh, the ideal scenario is to have a small but potent fleet of relatively lower maintenance single engine fighters like Gripen, J-10 or JF 17 for the next 20 years or so, until we are capable of getting hands on 5th Gen.

even with that intention a mig 29 doesn't have enough range to patrol maritime borders... i remember reading a aviation magazine article of german mig 29s and the pilot stated that about 30% of the total fuel is over by the time you've taxied and done a take off with afterburner and the extra fuel pods limits the g limits of the aircraft while the pod is attached.

 

[Michael Corleone]

Trying to protect Bay of Bengal before covering mainland is exactly the kind of delusional thinking you can expect from current BAF brass.
Priority-r mayer baap.

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Look at the above map - India can enforce and maintain a naval blockade over Bangladesh with aerial support from SU-30 MKIs/Rafales operating out of their coastal air bases + Andaman/Nicobar (thank you, 1947 movement geniuses!), without even needing aerial refuelling.
BAF cannot counter this even with 5th generation fighters + refuellers.
The most effective mechanism to counter a blockade would be a combination of SSK + SSBN patrols.

SSBNs can stay in outer Indian Ocean for weeks and launch land attack cruise missiles/AShMs/ballistic missiles to disable Indian naval fleet, ports and air base, perhaps for long enough to allow international community to intervene.
This is long term pipe dream but not infeasible.

SSBN for a country like bangladesh is a pipedream no?

a better alternative is counter air defence vessels... the Chinese have just launched type 054b 6000 ton air defence frigates.... there purpose is long endurance fleet defence so maybe not feasible for us in the near future but looks like at least 4 type 054 A are going to be available soon so might be something to look into along with a fleet of attack subs of yuan class

edit: I just realize you also mentioned it being a pipedream

 

[FHN]

Trying to protect Bay of Bengal before covering mainland is exactly the kind of delusional thinking you can expect from current BAF brass.
Priority-r mayer baap.

View attachment 75818
Look at the above map - India can enforce and maintain a naval blockade over Bangladesh with aerial support from SU-30 MKIs/Rafales operating out of their coastal air bases + Andaman/Nicobar (thank you, 1947 movement geniuses!), without even needing aerial refuelling.
BAF cannot counter this even with 5th generation fighters + refuellers.
The most effective mechanism to counter a blockade would be a combination of SSK + SSBN patrols.

SSBNs can stay in outer Indian Ocean for weeks and launch land attack cruise missiles/AShMs/ballistic missiles to disable Indian naval fleet, ports and air base, perhaps for long enough to allow international community to intervene.
This is long term pipe dream but not infeasible.

nuclear reactors are required for SSBNs.Nuclear power plants are more complex and expensive than other large-scale power plants, and they take longer to construct.

 

[Destranator]

SSBN for a country like bangladesh is a pipedream no?

a better alternative is counter air defence vessels... the Chinese have just launched type 054b 6000 ton air defence frigates.... there purpose is long endurance fleet defence so maybe not feasible for us in the near future but looks like at least 4 type 054 A are going to be available soon so might be something to look into along with a fleet of attack subs of yuan class

edit: I just realize you also mentioned it being a pipedream

Certainly need to invest in naval and land based air defence for the purpose of survival. What I was trying to illustrate is, how ludicrous it is for BAF to plan for maritime defence in the deep sea without first developing minimum area denial capabilities.
We need single engine fighter jets and various types of missiles in numbers just to protect our mainland. We do not have money to spare for hanger queens.
Once we are strong enough to deter any direct attacks on our mainland, our enemies would have no choice but to bleed us through naval blockades in the deep ocean - this is when SSBNs would become a necessity. Getting SSBNs is difficult but possible through long term planning (30-50 years), uninterrupted dedication and vision towards realising long term strategic objectives - this is a far cry from our current corrupt, incompetent, and directionless military culture.

 

[Destranator]

nuclear reactors are required for SSBNs.Nuclear power plants are more complex and expensive than other large-scale power plants, and they take longer to construct.

Certainly, will take decades of investment, planning and dedication.

 

[FHN]

Certainly need to invest in naval and land based air defence for the purpose of survival. What I was trying to illustrate is, how ludicrous it is for BAF to plan for maritime defence without first developing minimum area denial capabilities.
We need single engine fighter jets and various types of missiles in numbers just to protect our mainland. We do not have money to spare for hanger queens.
Once we are strong enough to deter any direct attacks on our mainland, our enemies would have no choice but to bleed us through naval blockades in the deep ocean - this is when SSBNs would become a necessity. Getting SSBNs is difficult but possible through long term planning (30-50 years) and uninterrupted dedication and vision towards long term strategic planning - this is a far cry with our current corrupt, incompetent, and directionless military culture.

A stockpile of ballistic missiles, attack uavs , and jf-17 block 3 with long range armaments are the way to go. They are much more cost effective. Bangladesh should follow example of Iran or Pakistan.

 

[Michael Corleone]

Certainly need to invest in naval and land based air defence for the purpose of survival. What I was trying to illustrate is, how ludicrous it is for BAF to plan for maritime defence in the deep sea without first developing minimum area denial capabilities.
We need single engine fighter jets and various types of missiles in numbers just to protect our mainland. We do not have money to spare for hanger queens.
Once we are strong enough to deter any direct attacks on our mainland, our enemies would have no choice but to bleed us through naval blockades in the deep ocean - this is when SSBNs would become a necessity. Getting SSBNs is difficult but possible through long term planning (30-50 years), uninterrupted dedication and vision towards realising long term strategic objectives - this is a far cry from our current corrupt, incompetent, and directionless military culture.

the fat generals in our country have egos that their body can't cash... i recently had managed to trigger gen. IKB and he told me off to live in the sewers just because he didn't like being questioned...

so the whole armed forces is run by men with vagina....

 

[Alter_Ego]

The most effective mechanism to counter a blockade would be a combination of SSK + SSBN patrols.

Buy many midget subs

And long range road mobile Anti-Ship missiles type DF-21D

As soon a Turkey gets its SIPER ready for sale, BD should scramble every penny availible to buy lots of batteries of this system.

 

[Destranator]

the fat fucks in our country have egos that their body can't cash... i recently had managed to trigger gen. IKB and he told me off to live in the sewers just because he didn't like being questioned...

I am told IKB was a "very professional general" - maybe worth checking out the sewers afterall...

so the whole armed forces is run by men with vagina....

then they must prioritise inducting:

https://www.iai.co.il/p/air-lora

 

[Alter_Ego]

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Turkey have implemented Block 1 of SIPER

Türkiye adds SIPER Block-1 long-range air defense system to arsenal - Türkiye Today

Türkiye introduces the SIPER Block-1 air defense system, strengthening national airspace security with long-range capabilities

www.turkiyetoday.com

The SIPER Block-1 system integrates advanced radar, command, and control technologies, ensuring that it can operate in coordination with Türkiye’s air, land, and naval forces.

The semi-trailer-based platform is equipped with a 5.4-meter-long missile, featuring a 370-millimeter diameter and a solid propellant propulsion system for high effectiveness.

Future upgrades, including the SIPER Block-2, are under development, aiming to extend the system’s range to 150 kilometers and the maximum interception altitude to 30 kilometers.

Turkey Launches The Siper Block-3 Long Range Air Defense Missile Development Program

Ahmet Akyol, General Manager of Aselsan, gave information about the new steps in the development process of the SİPER Air and Missile Defense System.

www.overtdefense.com

It was confirmed for the first time with this statement by Aselsan General Manager Ahmet Akyol that development on the SİPER Block-3 missile will begin. As of right now, there is no information about the capabilities of the new missile. On the other hand, the SİPER Block-2 missile, which underwent its first test in August of last year, is anticipated to go into service in 2025.

The SİPER Air Defense System provides multiple missile options to counter air threats. The first missile to be used will be the SIPER Block I, which has an effective range of up to 100 kilometers and an altitude over 20 kilometers. This missile is based on HİSAR-RF technology and features a double-pulse solid-fuel rocket engine and an RF warhead, similar to other HİSAR missiles. Later stages of the system will use the SİPER Block II missile, with a range of 150 kilometers, and the SİPER Block III missile, expected to have a range of over 200 kilometers.

 

[Afif]

the fat fucks in our country have egos that their body can't cash... i recently had managed to trigger gen. IKB and he told me off to live in the sewers just because he didn't like being questioned...

What did you say?

 

[Michael Corleone]

I am told IKB was a "very professional general" - maybe worth checking out the sewers afterall...



then they must prioritise inducting:

https://www.iai.co.il/p/air-lora

if i share the commentary... i am exposing my identity here so i wouldn't but let me know how it went about and how he eventually banned me for hurting his feelings xD

 

[Michael Corleone]

What did you say?

i asked him about the allegations against him during hasina regime and post hasina regime... he didn't like my line of questioning... certainly never had to be accountable for anything judging by his reaction... ended up calling me names and accusing me of being awami fascist which is ironic given he was her COAS xD... I can share the convo here censoring the exchange to protect my identity

 

[Afif]

The establishment of an Air Wargame Centre (AWC) is under the consideration of Air HQ. However, the concept papers for developing and accessing BAF doctrine and advocating employment of airpower strategy in joint and multinational arenas have already been prepared by Air Force Command and Staff Training Institute (CSTI). The Centre will provide the BAF a unique opportunity to visualise tactical, operational and strategic sceneries well in advance and lead to important lessons learned. These lessons learned and doctrinal concepts can further be integrated into the BAF Tactics, Techniques, and Procedures. The Wargame proposal is also considered for educating war fighters through resident and distance learning courses. CSTI has also planned to develop research and gaming collaboration with its sister institutions at home and abroad and work to improve the general level of air and space research and analysis.

https://csti.baf.mil.bd/at-a-glance/awc-36

Looks like some of the much needed work has been done recently. @Oscar @Michael Corleone @Avicenna @LeonBlack08 @AbuShalehRumi et al.