Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[925boy]

If Trump resolves the Ukraine-Russia conflict then they will be able to exclusively focus on Iran and Palestine.

not until US and NATO spend at least 1-3 years licking their wounds (and treating and training their SFs, mercenaries etc) and re-equipping their forces after Russia seriously degraded them in Ukraine. Unless NATO wants suicide to come quicker, it cannot engage in any other large conflict while it tries to save Neo-Nazi Ukraine.

Best to kick off now but ensure supply lines with China, Russia and Pakistan are set up.

ok

 

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🇮🇷⚡️🇮🇱 Algumas fontes anunciaram que grandes movimentações militares estão em andamento no Irã. Algumas fontes relataram o voo de caças iranianos sobre os céus do país. 🛰 Imagens de satélite relatam intensas movimentações militares no oeste do país. @ObservatorioGeopolitico

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Some sources have announced that major military movements are underway in Iran.

Some sources have reported the flight of Iranian fighter jets over the country's skies.

🛰 Satellite images report intense military movements in the west of the country.

 

[925boy]

Firstly, This is what looks like it's going to happen, not what I want.

Secondly, You are ignoring US and their allies factor, TP3 could lead to full scale war and then Iran won't be in any good position.

all those US allies are broke, unequipped and unmotivated- they only move if US moves, and they know US is getting tired- it just is and its not "succeeding" anywhere militarily, except maybe against minor terrorist groups here and there.

Germany, France, UK barely supported US in confronting the Houthis and soon ran back to Europe- there is no or weak signs they would engage in a serious fight with Iran without at least Iran attacking them first.

 

[SiliconBit (silicon0000)]

Based on leaks and comments from Israel, Israel is already planning to withdraw from Lebanon soon- IDF and its equipment have been beaten up too much too quickly in Lebanon, because they didnt learn their lessons from 1982 or 2006 that invading Lebanon is a Dead On Arrival -DOA situation for the IDF. Attrition of IDF ground forces in Lebanon is obviously worse and more unsustainable than in Gaza, just saying.

If Israel was going to actually attempt to dismantle Hezbollah, it should have tried to do so between 2006 and before Hezbollah got fully involved in the Syrian civil war (and expanded its size, scope. capabilities). It can't dismantle Hezbollah of today, its just too dug in and prepared and skilled- most national militaries dont perform up to its level.

Agreed but they can sit behind border and keep bombing civilians for many years. Better if things end properly. Israel needs to be contained, and that's should be without any direct war with US.

 

[925boy]

When will TP3 start?

Ask Khoramshahr.

 

[925boy]

Agreed but they can sit behind border and keep bombing civilians for many years. Better if things end properly. Israel needs to be contained, and that's should be without any direct war with US.

Hezbollah is doing the same too, which is very equitable - it just announced it will not let northern Israeli settlers return and it will expand zone of evacuation- we should do what Naim Qassem said some weeks ago- give Hezbollah time to "tame this beast", it is in process, and i believe it.

 

[SiliconBit (silicon0000)]

all those US allies are broke, unequipped and unmotivated- they only move if US moves, and they know US is getting tired- it just is and its not "succeeding" anywhere militarily, except maybe against minor terrorist groups here and there.

Germany, France, UK barely supported US in confronting the Houthis and soon ran back to Europe- there is no or weak signs they would engage in a serious fight with Iran without at least Iran attacking them first.

US can inflict too much damage to Iran within hours in case of full scale war which can change the whole picture. Dear keep one thing in mind, Iran is good in front of Israel but Iran is not good enough to defeat US alone. Direct war with US is something Iran needs to avoid in any way.

 

[Persian Gulf]

When will TP3 start?

let me check with General Bagheri then I'll get back to you

 

[Developereo]

I hope the third one is the right one

US has two term limit so Trump knows this is his only chance to leave a legacy. Moving the US embassy to Al Quds and Abraham Accords was his first term legacy. For his second term, he wants to be remembered as the guy who gave Israel their top wish: to destroy Iranian nuclear threat. If he destroys Iran nuclear capability, they will rename Tel Aviv to Trump City.

Iran still has a few months to prepare but I think this possibility has now climbed the ladder of probability.

 

[tsunset]

US has two term limit so Trump knows this is his only chance to leave a legacy. Moving the US embassy to Al Quds and Abraham Accords was his first term legacy. For his second term, he wants to be remembered as the guy who gave Israel their top wish: to destroy Iranian nuclear threat. If he destroys Iran nuclear capability, they will rename Tel Aviv to Trump City.

Iran still has a few months to prepare but I think this possibility has now climbed the ladder of probability.

Do you remember during 2004-2020, they were at a weekly basis threatening to bomb Iran nuclear sites for literally no reason? (based on fake claims about nuclear program with the "Amad plan" psyops)

Now Israel and US had every excuse to bomb nuclear sites, including a retaliation excuse after Israel was directly attacked, yet they literally said to Israel to not target Iran nuclear sites when it was a gigantic opportunity to do it

Same goes for the PGCC, they dreamt of a war against Iran, yet they back off at every single big opportunity to justify a war against Iran

In my opinion the US wants to avoid only one thing and that is Iran getting nuclear weapons, no matter how hard Israel gets hit, they will not intervene unless it is an existential threat to Israel

They were all boasting about wanting to hit Iran for no legitimate reason, freely, based on psyops claims, and now they back off from every single possibility to do it including huge ones such as Israel directly attacked

 

[925boy]

US can inflict too much damage to Iran within hours in case of full scale war which can change the whole picture.

and Iran will/can inflict alot of damage on US assets in the region before they start bombing Iran- Iran is not Iraq. US also doesn't have those assets in place for the intense a strike on Iran you imagine- those were the old days against Iraq, where there were poor 1970s soviet air defenses. 1 F35 shot down and a few US pilots captured over Iran and the US public will start demanding the US withdraw.

Dear keep one thing in mind, Iran is good in front of Israel but Iran is not good enough to defeat US alone.

I can agree with this. Defeating US is possible for Iran, but it will come at a large cost.......or who knows....US is like Tyson out of his prime- you're afraid to fight him but until you get in that ring and fight him, you wont know how quickly you may knock him out.

Direct war with US is something Iran needs to avoid in any way.

yea, probably.

 

[SiliconBit (silicon0000)]

and Iran will/can inflict alot of damage on US assets in the region before they start bombing Iran- Iran is not Iraq. US also doesn't have those assets in place for the intense a strike on Iran you imagine- those were the old days against Iraq, where there were poor 1970s soviet air defenses. 1 F35 shot down and a few US pilots captured over Iran and the US public will start demanding the US withdraw.

I can agree with this. Defeating US is possible for Iran, but it will come at a large cost.......or who knows....US is like Tyson out of his prime- you're afraid to fight him but until you get in that ring and fight him, you wont know how quickly you may knock him out.

yea, probably.

Being confident is good but being over-confident is not. Never underestimate your enemy.

 

[vmro]

When will TP3 start?

I think that will start when no one could expect...what is pretty smart and good decision imho...

 

[Persian Gulf]

and Iran will/can inflict alot of damage on US assets in the region before they start bombing Iran

IRI military leadership is extremely conservative and you think they will launch a massive pre-emptive strike against the US ? seriously

 

[vmro]

US can inflict too much damage to Iran within hours in case of full scale war which can change the whole picture. Dear keep one thing in mind, Iran is good in front of Israel but Iran is not good enough to defeat US alone. Direct war with US is something Iran needs to avoid in any way.

Such war will never happen, and thst is the only sure thing here...maximum pressure is almost guaranteed...alredy past few circles with phase near deal, to phase a step from conflict... deal has too much obstructions, and clashing even more...so for usa, situation will not change drastically, we are waiting to see brics in the near future...