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[Persian Gulf]

What is the price of Israeli missile and how may do they have, if that counts in your calculations?

surely more expensive than ours. what is the size of their military budget and size of the military budget of their backer compared to ours, if that counts in your calculations?

 

[jauk]

surely more expensive than ours. what is the size of their military budget and size of the military budget of their backer compared to ours, if that counts in your calculations?

The size of our military budget is comparable if not far more. There's a flat statement for good measure.

 

[Shawnee]

surely more expensive than ours. what is the size of their military budget and size of the military budget of their backer compared to ours, if that counts in your calculations?

10 M missile of THAAD (usually 2-5 of them) hit a 100 k missile.

10M ballistic missile hits an overground structure which costs less than 100 k even if it includes mixers.

Unless you assume 100 percent of US GDP pours into Israel, that is a comfortable math for Tehran.

 

[Persian Gulf]

10 M missile of THAAD (usually 2-5 of them) hit a 100 k missile.

10M ballistic missile hits an overground structure which costs less than 100 k even if it includes mixers.

Unless you assume 100 percent of US GDP pours into Israel, that is a comfortable math for Tehran.

THAAD is fully funded by USA so that's free for Israel

We should talk about cost of Arrow and David's Sling

and if you think Khorramshahr costs $100k I have a bridge to sell you

bottom line: US military aid to Israel this year alone > Iran's entire military budget

 

[Shawnee]

THAAD is fully funded by USA so that's free for Israel

We should talk about cost of Arrow and David's Sling

and if you think Khorramshahr costs $100k I have a bridge to sell you

bottom line: US military aid to Israel this year alone > Iran's entire military budget

If you think gliding series or K series cost more than 500k, I have a bridge to sell you.

The printer that sits in DC does not print bond notes for free of consequences.
Bond printer will crash.

 

[jauk]

THAAD is fully funded by USA so that's free for Israel

We should talk about cost of Arrow and David's Sling

and if you think Khorramshahr costs $100k I have a bridge to sell you

bottom line: US military aid to Israel this year alone > Iran's entire military budget

Ummm, you're not calculating correctly. Why isn't it $100K (or less) exactly? Do you have demonstrable evidence? The military industries have never been funded at the levels you suggest. It's obvious as day. Look at all the armaments, underground cities, size of the forces, etc, etc. For $10b-$20b annual defense budget per public sources...does make sense to you?

 

[tsunset]

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[Persian Gulf]

If you think gliding series or K series cost more than 500k, I have a bridge to sell you.

The printer that sits in DC does not print bond notes for free of consequences.
Bond printer will crash.

you claimed $100k, I did not claim $500k.

Iran's military budget for 2023 was $17 billion.

US gave Israel more than that in military aid alone this year already. US GDP is $27 trillion. they gave Ukraine more than $100 billion in the past few years, another $100 billion to Israel will more than make up for however much cheaper Iranian MRBMs are compared to Israeli ABMs and will barely be noticed in their budget. relying on their long term economic decline doesn't change these facts.

 

[UKBengali]

Who can produce more?

1. MRBMs for Iran

2. ABMs for Zio-US

The answer is obviously 1. as Iran would produce many hundreds of missiles a year at least while Zio-US would be in the dozens.

In essence from a military viewpoint, US money does not matter that much.

 

[tsunset]

Who can produce more?

1. MRBMs for Iran

2. ABMs for Zio-US

The answer is obviously 1. as Iran would produce many hundreds of missiles a year at least while Zio-US would be in the dozens.

In essence from a military viewpoint, US money does not matter that much.

White supremacists provides full help and production of anything Israel asks, and soon will hire Indian slaves to build their ships and submarines like US does with India

So the numbers will likely rise in the future for Nazi and White supremacists production of interceptors, and overall military products

 

[ToddE]

The only “problem” with K-4, is all of its maneuvering is exo-atmospheric via thrusters. Since the warhead itself doesn’t have fins, it cannot make endo-atmospheric changes or maneuvers.

Thus I’m going to be curious what its accuracy level is when compared to Fatah-1, Keibar Shekan, and Emad.

K-4 is a Post Boost-Phase Vehicle (PBV) designed to perform exo-atmospheric corrections before deploying MIRVs and submunitions at borderline IRBM ranges. IISS estimated its range to be 3200 KM for 600 Kg of submunitions or if the warhead is MIRVed.

If you remember, before K-4 was K-2, an endoatmospheric MaRV with very low CEP. Either it was produced silently and kept in some numbers or IRGCAF just gave up on the MaRV idea and went for PBV-submunition or possible MIRV. May be they saw no utility of an accurate strike at such longer ranges.

 

[ToddE]

Shahrud test seems to be lofted Apogee K-4 which can come down at extremely high velocity deploying its RVs or submunitions making it kinda invulnerable to some interception layers. It's probably IRGCAF's plan to take out the THAAD.

If that happens in TP3 and THAAD is taken out or fails to stop RVs, the military doctrines will start changing worldwide.

 

[Tijani]

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[Piet]

K-4 is a Post Boost-Phase Vehicle (PBV) designed to perform exo-atmospheric corrections before deploying MIRVs and submunitions at borderline IRBM ranges. IISS estimated its range to be 3200 KM for 600 Kg of submunitions or if the warhead is MIRVed.

If you remember, before K-4 was K-2, an endoatmospheric MaRV with very low CEP. Either it was produced silently and kept in some numbers or IRGCAF just gave up on the MaRV idea and went for PBV-submunition or possible MIRV. May be they saw no utility of an accurate strike at such longer ranges.

Nice...

Piet

 

[Immortals]

K-4 is a Post Boost-Phase Vehicle (PBV) designed to perform exo-atmospheric corrections before deploying MIRVs and submunitions at borderline IRBM ranges. IISS estimated its range to be 3200 KM for 600 Kg of submunitions or if the warhead is MIRVed.

If you remember, before K-4 was K-2, an endoatmospheric MaRV with very low CEP. Either it was produced silently and kept in some numbers or IRGCAF just gave up on the MaRV idea and went for PBV-submunition or possible MIRV. May be they saw no utility of an accurate strike at such longer ranges.

I don’t believe Iran has MIRV bus technology or if it does it’s not been shown off. I believe there was an animation video from Iran that showed the K-4 bus and none of the warheads had fins thus pointing to MRV not MIRV.

Thus I think K-4 is MRV (multiple re-entry vehicle) and not MIRV (multiple independent targetable RV). I don’t think any missile exists in the world that releases MIRVs that are not nuclear warheads. It’s expensive tech to pack 3 warheads that each have the ability to target different points only to have them carry a conventional payload.

I think until sufficient evidence is released we have to assume K-4 releases FINLESS warheads after aligning the PBV in the [late] exo atmospheric phase prior to re entry and that was also what that animation showed. If that is case then CEP could be quite large (500meters+) and making the weapon for use on either civilian centers, ports, large military bases/airfields, large economic targets (power plants, water facilities, etc).

You are correct about K-2 there was a variant with a warhead similar to Emad, however that warhead was smaller than the traditional warhead and thus couldn’t carry a max payload like you see in K-4.

I agree with your theory K-2 with MarV was likely not adopted, my thoughts are cost wise and Emad was likely much cheaper vs the “newer” Khorramshar family engines. Why have two liquid missiles doing the same job?

There isn’t a lot of Intel on what the differences between K-1, K-2, and K-3 are. I know there was a poster once showing K-1 & K-2 stats, but K-3 I don’t ever remember being unveiled. It makes me wonder if K-1 thru 3 were different working prototypes and ultimately K-4 was the mass produced variant.