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Immortals said:
Blame Khamenai.

There is a famous quote, where after the revolution a government official asks what they should do with the U.S. embassy, should they raze it or change it into an Iranian government building.

You know what Khomeini said? ‘Why would you do that? You think we will always be enemies?’

What did America do to Iran that required 40 years of hate from the onset? Iran was dominated by UK and Russia historically not America! During WWI it was UK that took all of Iran’s grain and food to feed its army while millions died! Look at Iranian Censuses from 1910-1920 Iranian society didn’t grow! That can only mean because millions died of famine! UK gave Saddam chemical precursors!

Yet UK got an embassy. UK got economic relations. UK got Iranian oil. Tell me how that makes sense?

When Shah fell, a secret group comprised of rouhani and others met even with Israelis and American diplomats to keep iran/Us relationship alive and from drifting into Chinese or Soviet orbit. And the negotiations eventually broke down because Iran was filled with too much revolutionary zeal. Iran thought because it had oil it didn’t need anyone. It didn’t need the West, it didn’t need the East. When the Americans boarded their plane they said you guys made the biggest mistake.

And that was that…

Israel actually sold Iran weapons during the Iran-Iraq when the Arabs didn’t sell us even a screw. They tried initially to be on our good side give our past history. Even in the 2000’s they came seeking potential detente and Iran slammed the door on them. Iran is the reason Bibi has held power in Israel since the 90’s. Bibi loves Iran because without Iran, how could he keep getting elected preaching facism?

Look I’m not against what the IRI did with the AoR philosophy. Yes you can’t trust Israelis, you can’t trust Americans, so what? You can’t trust Arabs, Turks, Chinese, or Russians either! You cannot trust anyone on the geopolitical stage, what makes Americans and Zionists the most dangerous? Who stole most of our land? The Russians! Who killed the most Iranians? The Arabs and British! Yet iran has relations with everyone including the Taliban! When was the last time the U.S. and Israel beheaded Iranian diplomats?

Iran spent 40 years building a war machine to force a Grand Bargain that would normalize Iran with America/Europe and then when the time came to shed some blood, for elites to experience some hardships, for the generals having to show up, suddenly iran wanted “peace and friendly relations” and “protect its people”.

Suddenly the nation mattered. Suddenly the people mattered. If the people matter why are they digging thru trash? If the people mattered why did you raise income taxes on them? If the people struggles matters why couldn’t you control corruption/theft after 40 years? If the people mattered why are you forcing people to wear a hijab?

IRGC, Khamenai, and our politicians want to stick to speeches and make the people eat grass while they live well. They aren’t willing to sacrifice even 1 day of hardship in order to put the country in a better place.

Iranians have been under economic war for over 15 years. Enough is enough, if you ain’t gonna fight. If you ain’t gonna build the nuke, then your days are numbered.

The next riots in Iran, you will see what happens. It won’t be just teenage boys and girls in the streets. These guys are losing the Bazaari’s with high income taxes and fees/penalties. If Bazaar shuts down, Iran collapses in Less than a month.
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Pre revolution, our military was one of the largest in the world with only the latest weapons. Economy was booming, we had all the latest equipments and held significant shares in several european companies and it was predicted that we would become one of top 5 largest economies in the world. Our population was less than 40M and the median age was 17!

The Iranians became arrogant, full of themselves and thought they can mess with the US without any consequences.
 
mangekyo said:
Pre revolution, our military was one of the largest in the world with only the latest weapons. Economy was booming, we had all the latest equipments and held significant shares in several european companies and it was predicted that we would become one of top 5 largest economies in the world. Our population was less than 40M and the median age was 17!

The Iranians became arrogant, full of themselves and thought they can mess with the US without any consequences.
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These descriptions of yours are lies and legendary stories of supporters of the monarchy. Before the revolution, Iran was one of the most backward countries in the world. It had no good infrastructure, there was no big industry except selling oil, agriculture was closed, and its people were hungry and illiterate. Only the Shah's army had good facilities because of the purchase of these weapons with oil money
 
Immortals said:
Blame Khamenai.

There is a famous quote, where after the revolution a government official asks what they should do with the U.S. embassy, should they raze it or change it into an Iranian government building.

You know what Khomeini said? ‘Why would you do that? You think we will always be enemies?’

What did America do to Iran that required 40 years of hate from the onset? Iran was dominated by UK and Russia historically not America! During WWI it was UK that took all of Iran’s grain and food to feed its army while millions died! Look at Iranian Censuses from 1910-1920 Iranian society didn’t grow! That can only mean because millions died of famine! UK gave Saddam chemical precursors!

Yet UK got an embassy. UK got economic relations. UK got Iranian oil. Tell me how that makes sense?

When Shah fell, a secret group comprised of rouhani and others met even with Israelis and American diplomats to keep iran/Us relationship alive and from drifting into Chinese or Soviet orbit. And the negotiations eventually broke down because Iran was filled with too much revolutionary zeal. Iran thought because it had oil it didn’t need anyone. It didn’t need the West, it didn’t need the East. When the Americans boarded their plane they said you guys made the biggest mistake.

And that was that…

Israel actually sold Iran weapons during the Iran-Iraq when the Arabs didn’t sell us even a screw. They tried initially to be on our good side give our past history. Even in the 2000’s they came seeking potential detente and Iran slammed the door on them. Iran is the reason Bibi has held power in Israel since the 90’s. Bibi loves Iran because without Iran, how could he keep getting elected preaching facism?

Look I’m not against what the IRI did with the AoR philosophy. Yes you can’t trust Israelis, you can’t trust Americans, so what? You can’t trust Arabs, Turks, Chinese, or Russians either! You cannot trust anyone on the geopolitical stage, what makes Americans and Zionists the most dangerous? Who stole most of our land? The Russians! Who killed the most Iranians? The Arabs and British! Yet iran has relations with everyone including the Taliban! When was the last time the U.S. and Israel beheaded Iranian diplomats?

Iran spent 40 years building a war machine to force a Grand Bargain that would normalize Iran with America/Europe and then when the time came to shed some blood, for elites to experience some hardships, for the generals having to show up, suddenly iran wanted “peace and friendly relations” and “protect its people”.

Suddenly the nation mattered. Suddenly the people mattered. If the people matter why are they digging thru trash? If the people mattered why did you raise income taxes on them? If the people struggles matters why couldn’t you control corruption/theft after 40 years? If the people mattered why are you forcing people to wear a hijab?

IRGC, Khamenai, and our politicians want to stick to speeches and make the people eat grass while they live well. They aren’t willing to sacrifice even 1 day of hardship in order to put the country in a better place.

Iranians have been under economic war for over 15 years. Enough is enough, if you ain’t gonna fight. If you ain’t gonna build the nuke, then your days are numbered.

The next riots in Iran, you will see what happens. It won’t be just teenage boys and girls in the streets. These guys are losing the Bazaari’s with high income taxes and fees/penalties. If Bazaar shuts down, Iran collapses in Less than a month.
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I have not been able to understand Iran politics post 1979. I think it is the only country in the world history (that I know of) that sacrificed so much of itself for a people 1000 miles away who are so different ethnically, religiously and linguistically. And maintain unremitting hostility against Israel when the Arab neighbors have resorted to modus vivendi of various kinds.
 
EugeneP said:
I have not been able to understand Iran politics post 1979. I think it is the only country in the world history (that I know of) that sacrificed so much of itself for a people 1000 miles away who are so different ethnically, religiously and linguistically. And maintain unremitting hostility against Israel when the Arab neighbors have resorted to modus vivendi of various kinds.
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The general policy of Iran is to carry out divine orders. Imam Khomeini explained Iran's attitude to the world. Iran must support oppressed countries in the world and not take orders from any power except God and be the enemy of oppressors. The slogan on the building of the Iranian Foreign Ministry It is that "Neither East nor West, only the Islamic Republic"
 
Mehdipersian said:
The general policy of Iran is to carry out divine orders. Imam Khomeini explained Iran's attitude to the world. Iran must support oppressed countries in the world and not take orders from any power except God and be the enemy of oppressors. The slogan on the building of the Iranian Foreign Ministry It is that "Neither East nor West, only the Islamic Republic"
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That is an extremely honorable policy. But did Iran do anything intense when the Soviets invaded Afghanistan? I remember it was Pakistan that did the heavy lifting of hosting the refugees and arming/training Mujahedeen. When Saddam invaded Kuwait, I don't remember much action from Iran. It was Saudi Arabia that hosted the coalition troops (and even paid for the liberation war).
 
EugeneP said:
That is an extremely honorable policy. But did Iran do anything intense when the Soviets invaded Afghanistan? I remember it was Pakistan that did the heavy lifting of hosting the refugees and arming/training Mujahedeen. When Saddam invaded Kuwait, I don't remember much action from Iran. It was Saudi Arabia that hosted the coalition troops (and even paid for the liberation war).
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Iran fully supported the Mujahideen of Afghanistan. Of course, it was mostly associated with the Northern Alliance. During Saddam's attack on Kuwait, it declared neutrality militarily, but provided a lot of support to Kuwait (for example, Iran put out fire of Kuwait's oil wells). Although Kuwait was always active against Iran, after these supports, Kuwait has never been hostile to Iran until today.
 
EugeneP said:
That is an extremely honorable policy. But did Iran do anything intense when the Soviets invaded Afghanistan? I remember it was Pakistan that did the heavy lifting of hosting the refugees and arming/training Mujahedeen. When Saddam invaded Kuwait, I don't remember much action from Iran. It was Saudi Arabia that hosted the coalition troops (and even paid for the liberation war).
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remind yourself why Saddam invaded Kuwait
 
Persian Gulf said:
remind yourself why Saddam invaded Kuwait
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This is the conventional wisdom, though no one may have the precise casus belli.
Though the true intent behind Iraq's decision to attack Kuwait is disputed, a variety of speculations have been made. One possible motive concerned Iraq's inability to repay the US$14 billion that it had borrowed from Kuwait during the Iran–Iraq War. Proponents of this theory point to Kuwait's surge in petroleum production, which kept Iraq's revenues down; Kuwait's oil production levels were above the mandatory quota that was specified by the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC), which had consequently urged the country to moderate production amidst a sharp decrease in global oil prices. Iraq interpreted the Kuwaiti government's refusal to decrease oil production as an act of aggression against the Iraqi economy. In early 1990, Iraq accused Kuwait of slant drilling to steal Iraqi petroleum across the Iraq–Kuwait border, though some Iraqi sources indicated that Saddam Hussein had already made the decision to attack Kuwait a few months before the actual invasion.
 
EugeneP said:
This is the conventional wisdom, though no one may have the precise casus belli.
Though the true intent behind Iraq's decision to attack Kuwait is disputed, a variety of speculations have been made. One possible motive concerned Iraq's inability to repay the US$14 billion that it had borrowed from Kuwait during the Iran–Iraq War. Proponents of this theory point to Kuwait's surge in petroleum production, which kept Iraq's revenues down; Kuwait's oil production levels were above the mandatory quota that was specified by the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC), which had consequently urged the country to moderate production amidst a sharp decrease in global oil prices. Iraq interpreted the Kuwaiti government's refusal to decrease oil production as an act of aggression against the Iraqi economy. In early 1990, Iraq accused Kuwait of slant drilling to steal Iraqi petroleum across the Iraq–Kuwait border, though some Iraqi sources indicated that Saddam Hussein had already made the decision to attack Kuwait a few months before the actual invasion.
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"One possible motive concerned Iraq's inability to repay the US$14 billion that it had borrowed from Kuwait during the Iran–Iraq War"

yes. so you want Iran to help the country that financed Iraq's war against Iran when Iraq then invades that country one year later?
 
Snake said:
I already said let's suppose you're right about Pakistan's sovereignty being compromised due to financial situation. Let's say you're right about Saudis too. This thread is about Iran and Iran put up no fight at all. Honestly I wonder if more Russian soldiers died in Syria than Iranians. Iran huffed "we will blockade strait of Hormuz" and "we will blow up Gulf oil facilities" and "we will flatten "Tel-aviv""...I believed them. But after Haniyeh killed in Tehran, Nasrallah murdered, Yahud planes killed Iranian soldiers inside Iran what did Iran do?

Please get over 1971. Let's not forget Abhinandan who came for some fantastic tea and was escorted off property. His crime was killing a crow.
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Have a read:
www.presstv.ir

How Americans for years propped up militant groups for ‘regime change’ in Syria

For years, as revealed by leaked cables, Americans aggressively pursued the regime change agenda in Syria to undermine the Axis of Resistance and plunder the Arab country.
www.presstv.ir www.presstv.ir

If the US allocates a fraction of the funds to do regime change in Pakistan than it did for Syria, it will totally work.

Don’t be fooled……nobody will defend our state if there are regime change attempts today.

And defend for what?
 
Persian Gulf said:
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time to recalibrate and assess best use of scarce Iranian funds.
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I hope that money can be used for an advanced IRBM/ICBM program like NK and Russia's recent IRBM, as well as HGVs and HCMs with BrahMos-2 like CMs

Assad is an unbelievable coward gambler that should be found in Russia to punish him
 
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