Syrian Civil War and The future of Syria after liberation

[Sinan]

Q for @Sinan and anyone who knows about those two.

What is the relationship between HTS and SNA like? I thought they were going to merge for a unified Syria but there seems to be a clash of interest between those two from what’s happening in Manbij/SDF areas.

Basically HTS is not backed by Turkey.
SNA is backed by Turkey.

I can go into more detail if you want.

 

[Tsubasa]

Turkey has longed to occupy northern Syria and Iraq for many years.
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The Misaki Milli and similar ideas originate from nationalist circles in Turkey and are neither part of the government agenda nor expressed by President Erdogan or other officials. Similar rhetoric exists in countries like Iran, where Azerbaijan is claimed as "ancient Iranian" territory. Such historical fantasies should be viewed with skepticism and not inflated into geopolitical castles in the air.

 

[_Arabia_]

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These documents are kind of insane, read the thread.

The resident Greek troll will have a heart attack that his beloved Al-Assad regime (now permanently in the dustbin) had close back-channels and communications to the Zionists that he falsely claims to be against!

Hilarious but everyone knew about all this. It was a circus for a reason.

Good thing that the role of the Iranian regime is permanently over in Syria. Likely that of Russia too. Both hated and despised by the majority of Syrian people.

 

[Sinan]

Turkey has longed to occupy northern Syria and Iraq for many years.
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That map is Misak-i Milli and you have no clue what that does mean. But you would use it for your own propaganda.

 

[Sinan]

The resident Greek troll will have a heart attack that his beloved Al-Assad regime (now permanently in the dustbin) had close back-channels and communications to the Zionists that he falsely claims to be against!

Hilarious but everyone knew about all this. It was a circus for a reason.

Good thing that the role of the Iranian regime is permanently over in Syria. Likely that of Russia too. Both hated and despised by the majority of Syrian people.

Nah, he is no troll....

If Turks get in to a war against aliens, Greeks would support aliens.

 

[_Arabia_]

Nah, he is no troll....

If we get in to a war against aliens, Greeks would support aliens.

You just need to read the ignorant and uninformed nonsense that he is constantly writing most of the time. To me that is a definition of a troll. The likes of Yammie are at least funny at times.

As for his Turkey obsession, that is also evident. Whenever I see his posts, every second post is about "evil Turkey". When not that he has a problem with most Arab states and Sunnis which to him are all AQ/ISIS. Every idiot is able to see right throw his agenda.

Somehow he has never had a problem with the "Islamic" Republic of Iran and their destructive meddling in the region and terrorism. Utter silence.

Then he shamelessly pretends to be against Israel and makes false accusations against countries that are yet to even establish ties with Israel unlike his own Greece.

So yes, from what I can see, he is a troll in my eyes that keeps nagging me like some kind of puddle looking for attention or some treats.

It is quite evident that he has hatred for Muslims. He is good to hide it though by playing out factions here. Sometimes he pretends to be pro-Arab, then he is pro-Iranian, then he insults Turkey (as usual), then he is pro-Israel, then he is anti-israel etc. And the usual stories (I once talked with Syrian, Arab, Turk x or y online who told me x or y stories). Very annoying.

The guy does not stand for anything or has any principles from what I can see. Changing opinions as the wind is blowing. The only constant seems to be his hatred for Turkey and Sunni Muslims.

 

[Sinan]

The Misaki Milli and similar ideas originate from nationalist circles in Turkey and are neither part of the government agenda nor expressed by President Erdogan or other officials. Similar rhetoric exists in countries like Iran, where Azerbaijan is claimed as "ancient Iranian" territory. Such historical fantasies should be viewed with skepticism and not inflated into geopolitical castles in the air.

That's not right.

 

[mulj]

Oil is coming back into syrian hands. Crucial for this transitional period but i have feeling that those will be bombed also once fully back under new authorities by jews, they will do everything they can to slow down and obstruct new Syria.

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[Tsubasa]

Basically HTS is not backed by Turkey.
SNA is backed by Turkey.

I can go into more detail if you want.

It is undeniable that the Turkic peoples from Central Asia were professionally trained by Turkey. This is evident from the numerous videos on X that showcase their disciplined and professional combat style. Turkey has undoubtedly brought these fighters into the region and maintains close ties with all groups on the ground, this is hard to dispute. Many renowned sources from the West confirm that Erdogan was the mastermind behind this overthrow, as his strategic planning and influence appear to have been crucial. This operation was therefore far more successful, as these units are significantly more disciplined than the Arab troops and act with extreme brutality, in the old steppe manner: "leaving no survivors."

 

[Mehdipersian]

The Misaki Milli and similar ideas originate from nationalist circles in Turkey and are neither part of the government agenda nor expressed by President Erdogan or other officials. Similar rhetoric exists in countries like Iran, where Azerbaijan is claimed as "ancient Iranian" territory. Such historical fantasies should be viewed with skepticism and not inflated into geopolitical castles in the air.

That map is Misak-i Milli and you have no clue what that does mean. But you would use it for your own propaganda.

Erdogan's daughter says that Aleppo belongs to Turkey and celebrated the return of Aleppo to Turkey:

 

[Tsubasa]

That's not right.

What is wrong with that?

 

[ghazi52]

CNN goes inside Bashar al-Assad's garage full of luxury cars

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/12/10/world/video/bashar-al-assad-luxury-car-collection-ldn-digvid

 

[tower9]

Forget consumers

Bri had Syria component


Cohesion, credibility has to be created

In summary, china is next because the west keeps gaining, as things are

How is China next because Syria fell? lol

I don't get this logic. China is actually expanding its influence worldwide as we speak. It just opened a massive megaport in Peru which will completely alter trade patterns in the Pacific and draw South America closer to its influence. China is planning a moon landing by 2029 and a moon base after. It also just debuted a quantum computer.

Technologically it is advancing quickly on all fronts. Its trade is quickly moving away from the dollar and RMB use has increased rapidly.

Yes, Syria was a loss for the Axis of Resistance. But globally, it wasn't a core interest of China. Also, I wouldn't even want China to step in the Middle East militarily. Look at what Iran has done and sacrificed for and they only get hatred from these Sunni Arab slaves. So honestly, you can't help low IQ people if they constantly work against themselves. Look at the near terrorist anti-Assadists here.

China is shifting the balance of power globally worldwide and is providing viable alternatives for the non-Western world which is crucial and didn't exist before.

TBH, the only somewhat competent allies China has is Russia, North Korea and Iran to some extent. The rest aren't pulling their weight.

 

[ghazi52]

Israel says it destroyed Syrian naval fleet​

From Dana Karni in Tel Aviv

Syrian naval ships destroyed during an overnight Israeli attack on the port city of Latakia on December 10.
Aaref Watad/AFP/Getty Images

Israel’s defense minister on Tuesday said that the Israeli Navy has destroyed Syria’s naval fleet.

“The navy operated last night to destroy the Syrian fleet, and it was a great success,” Israel Katz said during a visit to the Haifa naval base.

An AFP photographer captured large-scale destruction of military vessels at the Syrian naval base in Latakia in western Syria.

“The IDF has been operating in Syria over the past few days to target and destroy strategic capabilities that pose a threat to the State of Israel,” Katz said.

 

[ghazi52]

A look at the paraphernalia found in Bashar al-Assad's palace​

CNN

After rebel forces took over the presidential palace in Damascus – also known as Qasr al-Shaab, or the People’s Palace – we’re getting more insight into the life and belongings of deposed Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.

Reuters photographers found various items that showcased Assad’s lavish taste, including a signed photo of Britain’s Queen Elizabeth II and artwork from around the world.

A rebel fighter examines souvenirs in the palace on December 10.
Amr Abdallah Dalsh/Reuters

A portrait of the UK's late Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Philip.
Amr Abdallah Dalsh/Reuters

Artworks from around the globe.
Amr Abdallah Dalsh/Reuters

Items found in Assad's former residence on Tuesday.
Amr Abdallah Dalsh/Reuters