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[ToddE]

retiring f-4 but not j-7 and F-1 , why?

I am just guessing that maintaining an F-14 or F-4 will be harder compared to maintaining a harmless J7N or MF1 which does not even have to worry about upgradation for obvious reasons.

Retirement of F-14 or F-4 will be silly considering there is local infrastructure to upgrade and store the airframes for rainy days ahead. Iran should not waste these large and physically capable jets until we have atleast 200 SU-35S/30 inside Iran in Iranian hands.

 

[ToddE]

IRIAF pulled a stunt again. There are just 5 flying Kowsars and none of them except 1 is FMC. They sent another non-FMC prototype to Kish Air show and to make it look "in-service" they fitted it with old PESA Iranian radar from 90s that was destined for Azarakhsh and SaegheI/II programs (both abandoned), the range is barely 80 KM for tracking fighters. It comes from OWJ and is of Chinese family of radars of KLJ-6E/F, SY-80 series origin.

Kowsar's original radar is supposed to be Bayyenat-II which has a 115 KM detection and 94 KM track range for 1 m2 target with 1 m2 SAR, look down shoot down capability, built in ECM etc. Its a replica of modern Grifo-346 but is way too costly.

Good news: IRIAF is showing signs of maturity by working on Yak-130, SU-35S, MIG-29, SU-30SM etc while maintaining fair level domestic capability. If Kowsar's costs are cut with this old radar, this means the program gets to re-live. They can still produce 70-80 airframes with strong electronics as LIFT/ATs, CAS or IADS-controlled CAP fighters or line them up in north east to deal with Talibans if need be. As a matter of fact they can bring the entire shit fleet of 44 airframe strong F-7Ns and Mirages (22) to this standard and use them as IADS-controlled CAP on borders. Some 200 light fighters can deal with enemy cruise missiles/SOWs. Better than being abandoned.

While IRIAF should focus on Flankers and Fulcrums and plan for SU-57.

I remember the name of the radar for Saeghe I/II now. Some 20 years ago it was called "Baaz" with 80 KM of tracking range for 10/2 targets in TWS. The article's author kept comparing it with N019 of MIG-29 and RDM of Mirage-2000C but its most similar to KLJ-6EF/SY-80. I hope they go back to the original Grifo-346 replica they showed otherwise Kowsar will probably be good to tackle cruise missiles or drones only, that too from within IADS.

رادار کنترل آتش آن از نوع Phazotron-NIIR N019 بوده و رادار N019 ساخت فازاترون که به نام Baaz نیز شناخته می شود، قادر است 10 هدف هوایی را در حالت «رهگیری به هنگام جستجو» (TWS) از فاصلهء حدود 80 کیلومتری مورد شناسایی قرار دهد و هم زمان به دو هدف شلیک کند.

توان این رادار، برابر رادار RDM ساخت تامسون سی اس اف مورد استفاده در Mirage-2000H ارزیابی شده است.

https://www.irna.ir/news/81455227/جنگنده-صاعقه-به-تولید-انبوه-رسید

 

[BigMela2onin]

Radar is nice and all but you also need an ARH missile to fire with it. Fakour is too big for F-5 platform. Something like PL-12/R-77 is needed, or more realistically for a light fighter, something like Derby which some F-5 variants can use.

There was a program based of the AIM-7 at some point but it doesn't seem anything came of it.

 

[ToddE]

For those who mocked me for saying that Russians do not allow their comparatively modern jets to be touched by the buyer. This is one of the reasons Iran has kept itself from upgrading MIG-29, SU-24MK fleet locally.

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[ToddE]

Radar is nice and all but you also need an ARH missile to fire with it. Fakour is too big for F-5 platform. Something like PL-12/R-77 is needed, or more realistically for a light fighter, something like Derby which some F-5 variants can use.

There was a program based of the AIM-7 at some point but it doesn't seem anything came of it.

First of all, its a PESA radar from 90s so its obsolete by default compared to Grifo-346 which itself is PESA but probably the most capable radar in the entire Grifo series below their Grifo-S(AESA) which even the Chinese CAC was considering some 5-8 years ago before suddenly announcing KLJ-7A. Remember Israelis train their pilots on Grifo-346 (M-346) before throwing them at F-35. So I do hope this radar change was a stunt not the actual production plan.

Now coming to your point, R-77 are coming to Iran with SU-35S, YAK-130 or may have already arrived if Hamedan arrival rumors are true. If Russia allows, they can integrate HMD slaved R-73/Azarakhsh HOBS WVR + R-77 package on Kowsar, Radar tracking range has been lost by 15 KM with this new reality at Kish but plane still has very good avionics, datalinking with UCAVS/Fighters (MUMT role has been mentioned by head of IAIO) and possibly with IADS assets. It can serve as a very capable AT/LIFT/CAS/Anti CM/drone platform to train pilots to extremes before they get their hands on heavier fighters.

 

[ToddE]

Is this what I think it is?

Piet

Copy of Chinese HMD on Z-10 helis

 

[sahureka2]

AN-26 painted black, every day you learn something new (at least I do), I didn't know Iran had AN-26s.
Which Iranian military unit do they belong to?
Are they AN-26s or the Chinese Y-7H version?
Or are they ex-Syrian?
Thanks for any answers

 

[jauk]

AN-26 painted black, every day you learn something new (at least I do), I didn't know Iran had AN-26s.
Which Iranian military unit do they belong to?
Are they AN-26s or the Chinese Y-7H version?
Or are they ex-Syrian?
Thanks for any answers
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(From AI)
The Arabic on the aircraft reads something close to:

“اطائر الإيراني”


This translates to “The Iranian Bird” in English.

Odd it’s Arabic .

 

[ToddE]

(From AI)
The Arabic on the aircraft reads something close to:

“اطائر الإيراني”


This translates to “The Iranian Bird” in English.

Odd it’s Arabic .
View attachment 88286

It is written "Atlas Air", they operate AN-26B.

Black camo looks sick.

 

[Mehdipersian]

AN-26 painted black, every day you learn something new (at least I do), I didn't know Iran had AN-26s.
Which Iranian military unit do they belong to?
Are they AN-26s or the Chinese Y-7H version?
Or are they ex-Syrian?
Thanks for any answers
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On this site, it says that Atlas Air has bought two Antonov planes

الحاق دو فروند هواپیمای باری آنتونوف ۲۶ شرکت هواپیمایی اطلس

دو فروند هواپیمای باری آنتونوف ۲۶ شرکت هواپیمایی اطلس آماده الحاق به ناوگان باری( Cargo) کشور شدند.‌‌

www.tinn.ir

 

[Piet]

Now coming to your point, R-77 are coming to Iran with SU-35S, YAK-130 or may have already arrived if Hamedan arrival rumors are true.

This could answer a lot of Q's about which R-37, which R-77, as well as which R-73, comes with it.

Something like this:-

Current Russian/Ukrainian AAM projects

It's a 170-1 w/o engine and wings. It's just an RVV-AE / K-77 without stabilizers installed. No internal equivalent was ever accepted in service for RuAF. It's rough equivalent is AIM-120B and it has been offered for export since 2000s. RVV-AE / K-77, MAKS-2007 (note the form of the base for...

www.secretprojects.co.uk

At this point subterfuge - so applicable during the normal run of things - seem to be of lessor use now. These are not normal times, and only things that are 'known' to a potential aggressor would contribute to his own threat matrix.

Piet

 

[Lulldapull]

I think the entire SyAAF apparatus will be bombed by Israel to pieces to keep them from ending in service of Radical Islamists.

What a waste, Iran could certainly have those 30 x MIG-29Ms armed with R-77 and R-73 and 48 x Su-24MK/SU-22M4. Another failure for IRI.

The SAA pilots couldn't fly em out to Iran or even Iraq either. The US and IDF control the airspace in both Syria and Iraq and had blocked all land crossings and air corridors. Iran has no access to Syria. The US and Israel occupy the country and have occupied it for many years.

The PMU army that was sent as a last resort turned back toward Iraq after their commander was contacted by the Iraqi defense minister and told to turn back or else get bombed relentlessly by US/ IDF/ Al-Turkiya jets from Al-Tanf, Erbil, incirlik , Al-Assad (H-3), Mafrak.

Idiotic jihadist people here think Iran had like a million strong army in Syria defending Assad, but the reality was there wasn't even a 1000 total advisors embedded all over the country with no say on jack shit.

Anyway.......what a disaster Syria was. Now when greater Kurdistan appears magically, just like the KRG mysteriously appeared, only then these jihadi bastards here will understand what really happened......lol

 

[Flotilla]

AN-26 painted black, every day you learn something new (at least I do), I didn't know Iran had AN-26s.
Which Iranian military unit do they belong to?
Are they AN-26s or the Chinese Y-7H version?
Or are they ex-Syrian?
Thanks for any answers
View attachment 88274

I asked about them a year ago in the old forum. You can see them in Google maps in Karaj airport. These planes have been serving for some years (I saw them at least 3 years ago in Google maps). Maybe they are used to smuggle weaponry to allies.

 

[Flotilla]

Trump considering even air strikes to Iran to stop nuclear program.

That makes urgent the Su35s and R37M. The next month we will know which way choose Trump.

But day after day seems obvious that Iran need urgently to refurbish all IRIAF and integrate it in the IAD.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/trump-said-weighing-options-to-stop-iran-going-nuclear-including-preemptive-strikes/

 

[sahureka2]

In questo sito si dice che Atlas Air ha acquistato due aerei Antonov

https://www.tinn.ir/%D8%A8%D8%AE%D8...5% D8%A7%DB%8C%DB%8C-%D8%A7%D8%B7%D9%84%D8%B3

ok, but from whom or which company or country did they buy 2 AN-26s?
And I ask the question again: is it possible that they are ex-Syria?