You mean specifically Indian as Pakistan is very different from them (minus the Wahhabi shrills amongst us). Though the agnostic atheists in the major cities are just like yours westernized class
India To Sign 10-Year Deal With Iran To Manage Chabahar Port
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Tijani
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Unfortunately
@ST1976 youvr been around since 2006? Jesus man. My hats off to you even if we disagree and you being an Indian. Let me apologize if I said anything harsh.This is truly a matter of education. If the said member believes in what he wrote then he's entitled to his views however erroneous and irrational they may be.
Let me please clarify certain geostrategic concepts to facilitate understandment.
There are very few relatively independent countries, independent from the Zionist western hegemony, in the world right now, RussiaIran
and China
happen to be some of them. Some are more independent than others and a few others are in the process of solidifying their intent for independence. Despite this please understand that EVERY single Muslim majority populated country, besides Iran, is literally a colony of the West to some extent. Iran is the ONLY Muslim state that has a leadership whose worldview is Islamic, however problematic at times, and henceforth by default anti-colonial in nature. For this reason Iran will make alliances with other powers who also seek independence, whether it may Armenia, Russia, Venezuela or North Korea. These alliances are not static and will occasionally shift depending on the political situation of the contemporary ally. One must understand that the primary driver for Iran's alliances is to promote and solidify internal independence and facilitate the external emergence of an Islamic worldview of freedom and justice. This is for Iran a religious obligation promoted through statecraft. This standpoint is diametrically opposed to the zionist West's intention to freely and violently exploit all natural resources of the world for the benefit of a selected few. Obviously this resistance comes at a great cost to Islamic Republic and it's people. Unfortunately the vast majority failed to comprehend and appreciate the sacrifices made by Iran for the collective good of humanity.
Regrettably due to the pervasive nature of western disinformation Iran has difficulty informing the vast majority of people outside it's Islamic Shia community.
Unfortunately my experience with many from the subcontinent is that they have a problematic western influenced view of Iran and a very limited historical memory. Until recently the lingua franca of most of South Asia was Persian but this not time to remind those of you who believe in the benign influence of the West of such folly but I politely recommend that you use Google, however limited it may be, to do a simple search on the matter of colonialism. It disingenuous to omit from knowledge and memory the evil horrors inflicted by western colonialism on the people's of South Asia.
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you talk like fool.....
on ground realities, neither Iran is a Muslim country nor Russia is a Christian country. when Iran has to take a side, they will finally join Russians/Armenian & Hindus against Muslims countries like Azerbaijan-Pakistan
to understand, here, the Chabahar and Gwadar are two different concepts. with Gwadar, you have committed your 'sovereignty' with China. and similarly, with Chabahar Port 'go ahead', Iran has committed its sovereignty with India-Russia-Central Asia.....
while Central Asia? they are Mig29s countries, as compared to F16s Muslim majority countries....
Central Asia will never buy American arms similar to Iran
Iran supplied Arms to Armenia when India-Russia were having serious concern over attacks on Armenia from all Azerbaijan-Turkey-Arab Nations, Pakistan's support to Muslim nations of Gulf during that period.....
Iran will never buy US's arms like Turkey-Azerbaijan- F16s Pakistan and similar Saudi Arabia-UAE etc. Iran will never surrender its 'sovereignty' ......
Iran is not trustworthy for Muslim countries....... Iran honour Islam but the Islam which dont follow US-west, the Islam who dont buy F16s..... its similar to how Russia is not a Christian nation
further to the above post#20, we have a news as below
India has surpassed Russia as the highest Arm supplier to Armenia.....
its similar to how Iran 'finally' supplied arms to Armenia in recent war
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India Becomes Armenia’s Largest Defense Supplier
September 12, 2024
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how you people see the post#31?
its similar how Iran finally supplied weapons to Armenia during recent war...
Indians arms are of good standard. Im not surprised if India has surpassed Russia as highest defence supplier to Armenia
the news as below
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Vi-va
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What do you mean? India arm sale to Armenia is mainly motivated politically. Both Armenia and India have bad relationship with Turkey and Azerbaijan due to Pakistan's close relationship with Turks.how you people see the post#31?
its similar how Iran finally supplied weapons to Armenia during recent war...
Indians arms are of good standard. Im not surprised if India has surpassed Russia as highest defence supplier to Armenia
the news as below
Armenia is desperate, they don't have options, any help is needed.
Regarding India arm quality and technique, everyone knew it's very bad.
Make your own weapons first, then you can boast. So far, India can't make anything major weapon system independently.
India maintain good relationship with Turkey and Azerbaijan both. it was mainly the war why Iran+India+Russia took side with Armenia during war......
India has been having good relation with Turkey and Azerbaijan both.....
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Sushma pays homage at ancient fire temple ‘Ateshgah’ in Baku
Sushma pays homage at ancient fire temple ‘Ateshgah’ in Baku - The Statesman
EAM Sushma Swaraj paid homage at the 'Temple of Fire' Ateshgah in Baku which was used as a Hindu, Sikh, and Zoroastrian place of worship in ancient times
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Sushma pays homage at ancient fire temple ‘Ateshgah’ in Baku - The Statesman
EAM Sushma Swaraj paid homage at the 'Temple of Fire' Ateshgah in Baku which was used as a Hindu, Sikh, and Zoroastrian place of worship in ancient times
www.thestatesman.com
Lulldapull
Trusted Member
Achha?West - US cry foul about India - Iran relationship. India might be doing every trade and politics with Iran -Russia. India has every right to be with it's strategic friends.....
Internet is interfered by Western countries. They hide numbers, and manipulate them
I have news that India has put even nukes in Iran with credible ways to operate it. It was done while giving full information to US
Vi-va
Trusted Member
Sure, sure. By your term, India maintain good relationship with Pakistan and China as well.India maintain good relationship with Turkey and Azerbaijan both. it was mainly the war why Iran+India+Russia took side with Armenia during war......
India has been having good relation with Turkey and Azerbaijan both.....
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Sushma pays homage at ancient fire temple ‘Ateshgah’ in Baku
Sushma pays homage at ancient fire temple ‘Ateshgah’ in Baku - The Statesman
EAM Sushma Swaraj paid homage at the 'Temple of Fire' Ateshgah in Baku which was used as a Hindu, Sikh, and Zoroastrian place of worship in ancient times
Faithfulguy
Elite Member
I have been wondering why Armenia sucks at fighting recently. Now we know. It’s because India is its major arms supplier.further to the above post#20, we have a news as below
India has surpassed Russia as the highest Arm supplier to Armenia.....
its similar to how Iran 'finally' supplied arms to Armenia in recent war
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India Becomes Armenia’s Largest Defense Supplier
September 12, 2024
Iran had finally supplied arms to Armenia, the time Iran+Russia+India had accepted challenge. but we had issue that we were good with Azerbaijan+Turkey etc also. Russia mediated and proposed a solution which Azerbaijan accepted, they didn't go for war further....
as per the promise to India+Russia+Iran, in the war affected Nagorno Karabakh region, remember the name, is still having Armenian passports in that region. nothing changed from war. Armenia didn't lose anything. Azerbaijan fulfilled the promise
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Distant_Observer
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Game over for chabahar?
regtechtimes.com
Strategic Blow: Trump Ends India's Chabahar Port Sanctions Waiver - Regtechtimes
In a significant setback to India’s strategic goals, the United States has taken a tough stance on Iran’s Chabahar port project by canceling the special
regtechtimes.com
Lulldapull
Trusted Member
I don't believe there is any evidence of Iran supplying any weapons to Armenia......but Al-Turkiya supplied weapons to Azher bhaija republic like the idiots the turks are.Iran had finally supplied arms to Armenia, the time Iran+Russia+India had accepted challenge. but we had issue that we were good with Azerbaijan+Turkey etc also. Russia mediated and proposed a solution which Azerbaijan accepted, they didn't go for war further....
as per the promise to India+Russia+Iran, in the war affected Nagorno Karabakh region, remember the name, is still having Armenian passports in that region. nothing changed from war. Armenia didn't lose anything. Azerbaijan fulfilled the promise
hyperman
INT'L MOD
Iran's mistake was relying on India rather than China or even Russia for the development of this port. The Indians will run at the first sign of economic hardship or Sactions, they have neither the economic force to resist like China, nor the Political fortitude like Russia to resist State Dept directives via a vis Iran. When the State Dept starts threatening, India is not going to stick its neck out for Iran. Iranians seem to have forgotten India even voted against Iran at the IAEA to suck up to the Bush Administration.
'India was our friend'
'Iran enjoys friendly relations with India. Of course, we have complaints about their behaviour.'
www.rediff.com
hyperman
INT'L MOD
The weapons literally came via Iran, Armenia is landlocked and Georgia doesn't permit Russian flights over its airspace. Russians supplied weapons via trains and Roads and airspace via Iran.
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