Chinese 6th Generation Aircraft News & Discussions

[mack8]

Two gorgeous CGI images of the J-36 Fightercruiser, a bit of an ignorant question, is the artist Gaoshan or Bai Wei or they are actually the same person?

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

NGAD will need to be larger than an F-22 and have a deeper magazine. The B-21 could supplement by carrying long range AAMs, but NGAD and CCAs will need to carry the load.

The 2023 NGAD should be designed for 40-45 tons which is about the size of SAC's 6th gen.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

The NGAD programme is a rudderless ship right now, they don't have a definitive plan or firm requirements, and therefore recent comments on changing the programme, redesigns, lowering costs etc.

I really do think the recent Chinese announcements of their 6th Gen programme is to "force" the confused NGAD programme into making a "reactive" decision that may not be what the USA wants, or needs. ie to reinforce the overall confusion in the NGAG programme.

China's 6th Gen programme meets the military needs of China, and is a firm plan with clear goals that they are working towards. The USA programme, less so. War by other, and all means

The most recent design of NGAD looks very tiny.

I am starting to think that they are going to convert the NGAD into an unmanned loyal wingman that would be used to pair with the upgrade F-22.

 

[Deino]

The most recent design of NGAD looks very tiny.

I am starting to think that they are going to convert the NGAD into an unmanned loyal wingman that would be used to pair with the upgrade F-22.

Actually we know NOTHING about any design, all we have are some unofficial renders from companies - similar to the early ATF concepts which in the end looked totally different to both the YF-22/-23. As such there is no recent design we know. It's all guesswork or made-up by publishers.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Actually we know NOTHING about any design, all we have are some unofficial renders from companies - similar to the early ATF concepts which in the end looked totally different to both the YF-22/-23. As such there is no recent design we know. It's all guesswork or made-up by publishers.

We can also expect that the NGAD will never show up again.

 

[MH.Yang]

We can also expect that the NGAD will never show up again.

The United States Government is well aware of the huge gap that exists between them and China in terms of industrial scale and cost control. Therefore, their only hope of maintaining military superiority is to maintain a generational difference in weapons.

This has resulted in them having to make extensive use of immature technologies and over-the-top designs. This developmental gamble has led to the failed Jumwalt, EM guns, LCS, Ford class, and so on. It's hard to foresee if NGAD is the next Jumwalt.

It's wrong to do anything when the empire is in decline.

 

[Michael]

This is said to be one of the bidding programs. ------ It has failed!

 

[ahtan_china]

 

[Atheist]

China is continuously making huge progress in many fields! That should be appreciated! Indians should learn

 

[That_Guy]

Actually we know NOTHING about any design, all we have are some unofficial renders from companies - similar to the early ATF concepts which in the end looked totally different to both the YF-22/-23. As such there is no recent design we know. It's all guesswork or made-up by publishers.

Besides this, the official CGI released for both the Naval NGAD concepts and Air force NGAD concepts show that they're MASSIVE in size, easily dwarfing the F-22.

This makes sense as they're supposed to be command centers more than they are fighters, each one commanding a set of loyal wingman drones. A fighter like that would normally be massive to fit all that computer hardware, and have enough fuel to sit back and let the drones do most of the work.

 

[Deino]

This is said to be one of the bidding programs. ------ It has failed!
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Unfortunaltely not, it is a Fan-made artwork made by a guy well known from the Secret projects Forum.

 

[Michael]

Unfortunaltely not, it is a Fan-made artwork made by a guy well known from the Secret projects Forum.

Okay!
It seems that information sharing is very important. This picture is circulating on Weibo and it seems people are assuming it's real .............

 

[ahtan_china]

 

[Deino]

Great news ... @高山CG on Weibo is working on a CG showing SAC's 6th generation fighter!In fact I still prefer to use the interim designation J-XDS instead of J-50, which IMO is an unlikely designation.Cannot wait for the final artwork!

 

[100%_Guest]

Besides this, the official CGI released for both the Naval NGAD concepts and Air force NGAD concepts show that they're MASSIVE in size, easily dwarfing the F-22.

This makes sense as they're supposed to be command centers more than they are fighters, each one commanding a set of loyal wingman drones. A fighter like that would normally be massive to fit all that computer hardware, and have enough fuel to sit back and let the drones do most of the work.

Videos, we need videos bhai to celebrate the birth of NGAD, dont tell me miscarriage