Turkish Defence Industry - Exports & News

[hyperman]

Bangladesh's transitional government chief Muhammad Yunus has urged Türkiye to bring its technology to his country and help build the defence industry.

“You are the leader of the technology; you can build your defence industry here. Let’s make a beginning … we are available for anything that you need,” Yunus told a delegation led by Türkiye's Trade Minister Omer Bolat on Thursday night in Dhaka.

https://www.trtworld.com/turkiye/turkiye-can-replace-india-others-as-bangladeshs-key-trade-partner-18252373

There is definitely room for cooperation, Bangladesh has one of the fastest growing economies in the world and has an extensive workforce and if they look towards turkey for equipment that they previously bought from the west, thats a benefit for both sides.

 

[Oublious]

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[UKBengali]

There is definitely room for cooperation, Bangladesh has one of the fastest growing economies in the world and has an extensive workforce and if they look towards turkey for equipment that they previously bought from the west, thats a benefit for both sides.

BD would like to build up its military technological base with Turkish help.

Turkey could look at setting up some production in BD where BD has required skills for both BD market and also to re-export.

BD has historicallu brought almost zero from west and it was mainly China and then Russia. Turkey could easiy replace Russia that is declining in the military sector.

 

[hyperman]

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[Eşbah]

Aselflir500 developed in 2024 has been exported to 16 countries already!

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This is great!

 

[Eşbah]

The fight for which vehicle will be chosen as the CBWP (Heavy Infantry Fighting Vehicle) will be fought between the KF-41 Lynx and the Otokar Tulpar . The AS-21 Redback is not considered for various reasons, but the main reason is the transfer of technology and adaptation of the design to the ZSSW-30

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CANiK has been selected to supply 200 M2HB Quick Change Barrel (QCB) 12.7×99 mm NATO standard heavy machine guns to the Brazilian Army.

It was stated that the total value of the supply agreement in question was $3.1 million.

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[FuturePAF]

They should look to develop their own industries where the product will be cheaper to produce locally rather than importing and is within their capabilities, this in particular applies to consumeables products like rockets, bombs, missiles. eg lessons from Ukraine-Russia war.

They should look to form partnerships with Turkey where they need collaboration to produce the products they need, that Turkey also needs, ie share R&D costs and manufacturing infrastructure. eg BVR missiles between Pakistan and Turkey amongst other things.

Finally, if the product is completly outside of their capabilities for a decade or 2, then sure - they should buy off the shelf from Turkey eg something like the Kaan, HAVASOJ, and then in parallel work out what is required to build those systems at home where it will be cheaper and will provide local employment for the next round of procurements.

This is the approach that Pakistan seems to be following right now, and is the correct one.

Totally agree on not buying USA systems, the world has for the most part, moved on from needing to do that.

Side note, Pakistan should work with Turkey to have the Havasoj also operate as a NAOC; airborne command post, in case of a massive attack on air bases, as India as considered after the 2019 air skirmish. A high ranking Air Force officer would be on board any way.

The Havasoj as a dominator of the EW spectrum, it is well suited to add on this role.

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[hyperman]

Side note, Pakistan should work with Turkey to have the Havasoj also operate as a NAOC; airborne command post, in case of a massive attack on air bases, as India as considered after the 2019 air skirmish. A high ranking Air Force officer would be on board any way.

The Havasoj as a dominator of the EW spectrum, it is well suited to add on this role.

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These sorts of planes don't exactly work for small states, whose airspace are you going to be flying in? Russia and the US are vast so they have strategic depth and can fly in the air much deeper in their territories, whose airspace is Pakistan going to use? in the event of a full war, being killed in the air is more likely than them managing to kill someone in a bunker under a mountain or something of that nature.

 

[FuturePAF]

These sorts of planes don't exactly work for small states, whose airspace are you going to be flying in? Russia and the US are vast so they have strategic depth and can fly in the air much deeper in their territories, whose airspace is Pakistan going to use? in the event of a full war, being killed in the air is more likely than them managing to kill someone in a bunker under a mountain or something of that nature.

It’s possible, but distributing potential command authority to a high ranking officer already on duty and in a full capable command platform just adds a layer of redundancy.

I’m not talking about making the plane any different except configuring some consoles and upgrading some communication gear and perhaps giving more authority to officers already on board.

 

[hyperman]

It’s possible, but distributing potential command authority to a high ranking officer already on duty and in a full capable command platform just adds a layer of redundancy.

I’m not talking about making the plane any different except configuring some consoles and upgrading some communication gear and perhaps giving more authority to officers already on board.

If a War breaks out and if your entire command Node is airborne, I guarantee given pakistan's Geography thats the first place you are going to see targetted. Nothing airborne is safe b/c Pakistan is only 450km wide from Afghanistan to India. A Giant Airliner hovering over Pakistan carrying important people/leadership is going to be the first thing targetted by the Indian Air Force.

No if you want a doomsday command center, what you want is something like the Cheyenne Mountain Complex. Buried deep deep underground under a mountain and fortified to withstand a 30 Megaton Nuclear Attack or the Raven Rock Mountain Complex(nicknamed "Underground Pentagon"). or what the russians have in Kosvinsky Kamen.

Cheyenne Mountain Complex - Wikipedia

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[FuturePAF]

If a War breaks out and if your entire command Node is airborne, I guarantee given pakistan's Geography thats the first place you are going to see targetted. Nothing airborne is safe b/c Pakistan is only 450km wide from Afghanistan to India. A Giant Airliner hovering over Pakistan carrying important people/leadership is going to be the first thing targetted by the Indian Air Force.

No if you want a doomsday command center, what you want is something like the Cheyenne Mountain Complex. Buried deep deep underground under a mountain and fortified to withstand a 30 Megaton Nuclear Attack or the Raven Rock Mountain Complex(nicknamed "Underground Pentagon"). or what the russians have in Kosvinsky Kamen.

Cheyenne Mountain Complex - Wikipedia

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My point is Pakistan is already getting the Havasoj, so why not add a feature and one high enough ranking officer.

Yes, deep mountain bunkers are a need, but it’s not an either or approach. It’s about all of the above at a margin increase in cost.

 

[hyperman]

My point is Pakistan is already getting the Havasoj, so why not add a feature and one high enough ranking officer.

Yes, deep mountain bunkers are a need, but it’s not an either or approach. It’s about all of the above at a margin increase in cost.

HavaSoj is an Electronic warfare platform, not a "doomsday plane". two very different roles. The Doomsday plan is there to go hide from the front lines and make sure leadership survives so that things can continue to function via commands.

Electronic Warfare planes are offensive platforms going INTO the danger for EW purposes, whether jamming or snooping for communication lines of the enemy and intelligence gathering.

 

[FuturePAF]

HavaSoj is an Electronic warfare platform, not a "doomsday plane". two very different roles. The Doomsday plan is there to go hide from the front lines and make sure leadership survives so that things can continue to function via commands.

Electronic Warfare planes are offensive platforms going INTO the danger for EW purposes, whether jamming or snooping for communication lines of the enemy and intelligence gathering.

I understand that, but as you said, the country is rather narrow, and IMHO, this plane is probably the most survivable platform due to its EW capabilities, to be used as a command post.

It is possible that the PAF would fly over Afghan Air Space (with escorts) to give itself a safe place to operate from. It’s not like PAF will care what the Afghans have to say about using their air space in a time of war, or at least IMHO, they shouldn’t. Based out of Quetta, it could operate as far from Indian potential attack vectors and refuel from here. When it has to be used as a proper EW platform, the generals can come off and the majors can resume its single mission profile.

The other option is to get a separate plane or upgrade the Embrarers intended as MPAs for the role.

And remember all this is to say, we still Absolutely need dozens of underground facilitates to command forces from. All I’m saying is add extra datalinks, satcoms, towed decoys and add a general to each of these planes to add a layer of redundancy.