DeepSeek, China's AI model: News & Discussion

[BananaRepublic]

The endgame of MAGA is bitcoin to replace the dollar. Either a bitcoin backed dollar or bitcoin replacing the dollar.

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The Ron Paulers were taking out the neocons deep state, so Trump, a billionaire deep stater with ties to Kissinger, Epstein, Roy Cohn and other cia spooks took over the populists and made Obama and the Democrats the enemy. MAGA got early in on the pyramid scheme bitcoin, so MAGA turn into billionaires when bitcoin replaces the dollar or backs the dollar, as is the Trump plan for the second stay in the WH.

A quick lesson.

Many Republicans stayed away from Epstein because the Republicans believed Epstein was a mossad operation to get blackmail on american politicians. Meaning many believe Epstein was connected to mossad, cia, and likely the mi6.

Trump mentor Roy Cohn worked for McCarthy and believed the crooks should be running Washington and politics.

Republican Kissinger was the deep state for decades, nearly equal to the Republican cia later led by the Republican Bush Family.

bitcoin was invented in 2008 after the financial collapse and the threat of bank runs and a dollar collapse and the threat of replacing the dollar with gold and silver as money. (This is why the central banks own thousands of tons of gold, to back their paper currencies - backed by only confidence - during monetary collapse, as silver and gold were money for over 2000 years and before that the wealth of kings)

bitcoin/crypto drew trillions of dollars out of the precious metal investing to crypto, thus suppressing the price of gold and silver for decades (2000s, 2010s, 2020s). The banks also engage in suppressing the price of gold and silver, short selling to keep the dollar to appear strong.

Increases in the price of gold and silver, signal lack of confidence in the dollar, as the global reserve currency.

"Satoshi Nakamoto" translates to central intelligence in Japanese. Though the cia probably are going to promote a fake story with an actor claiming to have invented bitcoin. If maga learn the identity of the person behind bitcoin (the cia), a former cia employee said "bitcoin would go to zero". So the Republican Party promote the fake narrative about bitcoin being about freedom, when it is about the select few owning the globe.

gold is the enemy of the cia/Republicans/Washington. bitcoin is the planned replacement of gold. To go to bitcoin when Trump stages the dollar collapse, not to go back to traditional money of gold and silver backed currencies.

So it is obvious that Trump is the Republican deepstate re-branded and with a new mission. As most Republicans have agreed to reject the failing neocons and join MAGA. After two failed elections in 2008 and 2012, Republicans, including Christian Zionist Murdock agreed to promote MAGA as the new deep state Republican brand.

Elmo is the nearly the replacement of NASA, nearly on par with NASA and NASA is a big Washington project.

The billionaire big tech surveillance promoters are behind Trump and Trump was part of the deep state since the 1970s.

So then there has to be the reason for Trump to want to replace dollars with bitcoins or bitcoin backed dollars.

See the post above. It makes sense. It is the new agenda of Republicans. bitcoin packaged as billionaire fake populism. Because those that knew about the plan are big holders of bitcoin, got in when bitcoin was pennies and dollars.

MAGA is made up of idiots who don’t understand the power of printing the global fiat currency at will lol

They are being hoodwinked by Zionists.

Like they were hoodwinked into signing free trade deals with China lol

Lambs to the slaughter!

Christians do believe Zionists will be the cause of their doom. And the messiah will come and save them by destroying Zion lol

 

[Mero]

MAGA is made up of idiots who don’t understand the power of printing the global fiat currency at will lol

The Christian Zionists were idiots and were rewarded by the cia with the cia Zionist Wars in the Middle East. The voting base of the Republican Party get rewards by the cia.

China needs to go from success to success, next to a gold-backed yuan.

 

[BananaRepublic]

The Christian Zionists were idiots and were rewarded by the cia with the cia Zionist Wars in the Middle East. The voting base of the Republican Party get rewards by the cia.

China needs to go from success to success, next to a gold-backed yuan.

Not a fan of gold standard, bro!

But that’s a discussion for another thread lol

 

[r3alist]

What on earth are you even rambling about, you absolute retard? What does the H1B issue have to do with this?

You Pakistanis seem so desperate for some source of pride that you've latched onto Chinese achievements.

If you were capable of self awareness, it would be obvious you started a false narrative on the forummers, hence my response

You have done it again on "you Pakistanis....."

I don't see your need for this.

You are here on a pdf, of course it will be Pakistanis responding

 

[SiliconBit (silicon0000)]

Bitcoin is double edge sword. Bitcoin is more volatile and riskier than a gold-backed currency, and more prone to causing disaster, isn't it?

 

[F-22Raptor]

It’s funny…Deepseek was trained on 50,000+ NVidia H100 GPUs, performs worse than OpenAis old o1 LLM, yet China has “overtaken” the US in technology.



Meanwhile OpenAI has finished o3 internally, o4 is being trained, and GPT-5 will likely be released in the next few months.

 

[FHN]

Bitcoin is double edge sword. Bitcoin is more volatile and riskier than a gold-backed currency, and more prone to causing disaster, isn't it?

The current market cap of gold is 20 trillion dollars. Bitcoin is generally considered to be much more volatile than gold. Bitcoin's price can fluctuate dramatically within a short period of time, while gold tends to be more stable over the long term.

 

[vasanthm]

If you were capable of self awareness, it would be obvious you started a false narrative on the forummers, hence my response

You have done it again on "you Pakistanis....."

I don't see your need for this.

You are here on a pdf, of course it will be Pakistanis responding

So are you saying the narrative on this thread doesn't have a hint of the West’s decline? Just look at the tone of several posts, like this one: "Once that is done - West is finished."

There’s nothing wrong in those posts, but my post simply highlighted it. What exactly is the false narrative here? These comments speak for themselves. In fact, 90% of my post is about the great job the Chinese have done and how these advancements could shape society. Yet, you’ve chosen to turn this into a personal attack because your shortsightedness is clouding your judgment.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

It’s funny…Deepseek was trained on 50,000+ NVidia H100 GPUs, performs worse than OpenAis old o1 LLM, yet China has “overtaken” the US in technology.

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Meanwhile OpenAI has finished o3 internally, o4 is being trained, and GPT-5 will likely be released in the next few months.

...see the answers it gives in post #60 and #58

 

[r3alist]

So are you saying the narrative on this thread doesn't have a hint of the West’s decline? Just look at the tone of several posts, like this one: "Once that is done - West is finished."

There’s nothing wrong in those posts, but my post simply highlighted it. What exactly is the false narrative here? These comments speak for themselves. In fact, 90% of my post is about the great job the Chinese have done and how these advancements could shape society. Yet, you’ve chosen to turn this into a personal attack because your shortsightedness is clouding your judgment.

A hint ... Yes.

The obvious trolls

 

[F-22Raptor]

The Chinese and their sycophants here are so desperate to match American technology, they’re latching onto an LLM model that was trained on tens of thousands of American GPUs, and illegally at that.

The model doesn’t even outperform OpenAIs o1 LLM.

 

[F-22Raptor]

...see the answers it gives in post #60 and #58

Deepseek is a ChatGPT reskin, and they’re lying about the costs. And nearly every major American AI CEO has called them out on it, including Elon.

 

[vasanthm]

Deepseek is a ChatGPT reskin, and they’re lying about the costs. And nearly every major American AI CEO has called them out on it, including Elon.

That may be true, but the fact that this is fully open-source, unlike OpenAI, means advanced AI will now be accessible to everyone. Imagine the potential for countless small companies and non-AI businesses to drive innovation in their own sectors using this technology—something that’s far more challenging with OpenAI’s closed model.

So, kudos to this company! After all, every new development builds on the shoulders of past giants, and this openness could democratize AI advancements like never before

 

[FHN]

The Chinese and their sycophants here are so desperate to match American technology, they’re latching onto an LLM model that was trained on tens of thousands of American GPUs, and illegally at that.

The model doesn’t even outperform OpenAIs o1 LLM.

Nvidia is a Chinese company to me. It's run by a Chinese founder and it's employees are made up of mostly of Asians. You and your American friends here are the ones coping here.deepseek is free use, open source, and quality threatens many cartels, biz models, and grift kings in AI. Tighten your helmet cords. This is just the beginning

 

[F-22Raptor]

Nvidia is a Chinese company to me. It's run by a Chinese founder and it's employees are made up of mostly of Asians. You and your American friends here are the ones coping here.deepseek is free use, open source, and quality threatens many cartels, biz models, and grift kings in AI. Tighten your helmet cords. This is just the beginning

NVIDIA is not a Chinese company. It was founded in California. Jensen got all his education in the US. And the fact the US controls the most advanced GPUs and its exports just confirms that.

Open source or not, R1 is an inferior model to o1. And o3s benchmarks far exceed that of o1

Now cope